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EightBit
Jan 7, 2006
I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.
:f5:

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rscott
Dec 10, 2009
That poo poo is gonna be porn to this thread, there is no way you can not post that stucf

Syrian Lannister
Aug 25, 2007

Oh, did I kill him too?
I've been a very busy little man.


Sugartime Jones

Dead Reckoning
Sep 13, 2011

YF19pilot posted:

Hurlburt has one aircraft example of basically every gunship Spooky, Specter, or otherwise. Mostly all AFSOC related, but last I checked it was still just right behind the front gate (across the street from the chapel, which made every Sunday growing up pretty loving awesome.) Not sure if they'd give you special permission to pop in and check it out or not.
I know this is from a while back, but the AC-47 and AC-119 at Hurlburt aren't "real," they're mock-ups made from a C-47 and C-119. (The C-119 certainly had a colorful history of its own, though.) If you get close, you can see the miniguns are made from lengths of pipe. As far as I'm aware, there are no true AC-119s on display anywhere in the world.

Truck Stop Daddy
Apr 17, 2013

A janitor cleans the bathroom

Muldoon
Here's a Dornier Wal



More stuff here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CporetQe7bA

Truck Stop Daddy fucked around with this message at 10:57 on Dec 11, 2015

HookedOnChthonics
Dec 5, 2015

Profoundly dull


A couple more while I see about getting access to a scanner:



I alluded to other techniques for teaching recognition, the shadowgraph is an example of such. It was also commonly used to teach aerial gunnery.




A very interesting page that kind of captures the conversational approach. Again, we see an association being made, tailor-fit to american tastes by the editors, with the car industry. Providing a narrative of iteration, of brand identity was absolutely a coopted advertising tactic, and a quite successful one—convince someone of the quality of a brand, and they will become invested in learning to differentiate that brand from other, lesser products (and in showing off their discerning taste to others, a valuable trait for a spotter). Its value to recognition is less about useful identifying information and more about figuring the visual language of aircraft design as something relatable and legible to the average person.

And, as an aside, the first AAF coastal interdiction (:3:) B-17As with the original tail may be my favorite plane/livery combo in US air power history, I mean come on.



:britain:




The back page of each issue was used to distribute new and updated identification booklet pages. And if you're unfamiliar with the Nazi attempt to build a disposable C-130 out of balsa wood to invade Britain with, you can see video of it here in the excellent old BBC doc 'The Secret War.' The episode contains an extended firsthand account of flying the thing from noted Nazi test pilot Hanna Reitsch, who is probably the most adorable old lady to have once personally pitched a death cult kamikaze squadron to Literally Hitler. She also somehow manages to make flying the Komet sound like an appealing, uplifting experience. Nazism, man.




For amphib chat, here's the breathless first sighting of Emily, the Kawanishi H8K, incorrectly giving it gull wings.




A rather amusingly blunt approach to illustrating the difficulty in spotting in prevailing field conditions. You have to wonder how many photos were rejected before these were setteled on as the best examples of amorphous blobs.


HookedOnChthonics fucked around with this message at 11:26 on Dec 11, 2015

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?
What is this book? I must find a copy.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS

Godholio posted:

What is this book? I must find a copy.

https://archive.org/details/USANJOR194401-nsia

Several parts of it are free on archive.org, maybe the whole thing?

joat mon
Oct 15, 2009

I am the master of my lamp;
I am the captain of my tub.

Psion posted:

https://archive.org/details/USANJOR194401-nsia

Several parts of it are free on archive.org, maybe the whole thing?

That link has 22/24,
this one
has all 24.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

joat mon posted:

That link has 22/24,
this one
has all 24.

:porcine squeal of delight:

Happy as a pig in, well, you know

Reading these things, the font looks identical to period Life. I'm guessing these were done up by the Time-Life people. The random issue I opened starts with a quiz. Can you identify these aircraft? (1943, Pacific theater) Answers on page 13!



Once again, the past taunts us with its airline food (1968):



My guesses:
#1: Japanese Seaplane scout who's name I just don't know #2-5: Dunno #6: F4F Wildcat #7: Beaufighter #8: Hurricane #9: Zero #10: TBM Avenger #11-12: dunno #13: B-24

Nebakenezzer fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Dec 11, 2015

HookedOnChthonics
Dec 5, 2015

Profoundly dull


I've actually only got the first six issues (Sep 43-Feb 44). I'm also going to post informational posters and cutaways from Graphic War: The Secret Aviation Drawings and Illustrations of World War II by Nijboer, but unfortunately my copy is in a very bad format for my pro-tier makeshift ipad document camera technique, being a thick-spined glossy paperback of nearly entirely two-page posters. I'm trying to mitigate the creases (and would absolutely spend money on unblemished prints of like half the things in here) but it's gonna be pretty unavoidable—my scanner turned out pretty worthless. Oh well :justpost: so here's the Sunderland's mooring procedure:



More to follow as I upload & format (which is surprisingly arudous on tablet! i mean dunno why I expected otherwise, but)

buttcrackmenace
Nov 14, 2007

see its right there in the manual where it says
Grimey Drawer

HookedOnChthonics posted:

More to follow as I upload & format (which is surprisingly arudous on tablet! i mean dunno why I expected otherwise, but)

youre doing it the hard way

get thee to the App Store and grab a copy of Office Lens

(it is free)

https://itunes.apple.com/en/app/office-lens/id975925059?mt=8

it recognizes, auto-straightens and auto-deskews pictures taken of printed material

also : MSFT dropped the requirement that you have either an Office365 or OneDrive account - you can save the corrected photos directly to your photo library, or dropbox, or w/e

works great for flat, single page documents. Not the greatest on bound material, but certainly better than nothing!

a quick sample :

original :


auto-corrected :

buttcrackmenace fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Dec 11, 2015

TheFluff
Dec 13, 2006

FRIENDS, LISTEN TO ME
I AM A SEAGULL
OF WEALTH AND TASTE

hoooooly poo poo why didn't you tell me about this 20,000 document pages ago

Advent Horizon
Jan 17, 2003

I’m back, and for that I am sorry


LUBE UP YOUR BUTT posted:

Somehow I assumed that parking a jumbo jet in an airport required a little more paperwork, rather than 'hey imma leave my jet here for a bit cya'

Howard Hughes owned a DC-6 that he flew for less than 10 hours before forgetting it in Florida. Everts Air Cargo flies it as N7780B; I believe it's the lowest time airworthy DC-6 to this day.

HookedOnChthonics
Dec 5, 2015

Profoundly dull


^^^ agreed :aaa: Does it work well on double-page art spreads? Because oh boy do I have a whole lot of those. Will try it out for the next batch I do.


This post will be focused on Emergency procedures, air-sea rescue, and ditching drills of the RAF but first I'll go ahead and include a recognition quiz—the very first one, on the first page of the first issue. Answers will be spoilered at the bottom of the post.

QUIZ 1: THE ALL-IN RAID — British, American and German up to Sep '43 — Contains repeats



Now, on to our main topic:



As an ultra-time-sensitive life-and-death concern, well-conceived and executed air-sea rescue was a huge concern for island Britain, and they developed their techniques to honed perfection. This poster details the interactions of the various components of the channel rescue—and is among my favourites in its little cartoony details:





At some point I'm gonna vectorize that little pilot dude and make an avatar out of it.








A gorgeous depiction of a successful air-sea rescue. I also have a full spread of the lifeboat loading procedure and a cutaway detailing its design and contents if anyone is interested.




I don't need to tell you guys that the prospect of hundreds of exhausted, limping, injured airplanes and crews filling the pitch-black skies of wartime Britain as they struggle home from X country is an air-traffic nightmare.




I feel like this one really captures the inky impenetrability of the blacked-out countryside. A description from a bomber command vet of the sensation of night bombing that's always stuck with me was of increasing dissociation from the wider world—of arming and boarding their planes as British aircrews strategically contributing to the war effort against Germany, then forming up in formation as RAF men flying in force against the Luftwaffe, then entering combat as a single plane and single aircrew, and finally exiting it utterly isolated and alone in your seat.



As a little illustration in the impact graphic design and presentation, take a look at the following poster of the Hampden's parachute ditch drill.



How does this poster make you feel about the prospect of ditching? What does it make you think about and take note of, if you imagine that you will soon find yourself in the R/O seat of a Hampden going over Cologne?

And now, ask yourself the same questions about this poster for the Mosquito:



I think the contrast in portrayals is fascinating. While I can't begin to guess which is actually more effective at getting crews to internalize and practice correct procedure, the composition of the technical information being presented absolutely affects the emotional relationship the reader/learner will form with it.


:siren: Dinghy, dinghy, time to ditch! Last one out is a son of a bitch! :siren:










Anyway, that wraps it up for this post, I think. I've got my workflow down so tomorrow I'll try to do a few posts in quick succession, probably one each on operational/tactical posters, technical drawings, and British intelligence cutaway diagrams of German aircraft. This post was almost entirely UK material, but there are some very interesting American, German, and Soviet examples in those categories.

Quiz answers posted:


(Apologies for the weird formatting but I didn't want to add 63 whole carriage returns to my already very vertical post. Future quizzes have many fewer items so it's just for this one)
1. Halifax — 2. Lancaster — 3. Mitchell
4. Sunderland — 5. Do-24 — 6. Wellington II
7. Battle — 8. Halifax — 9. Boeing 247D
10. Me-109E — 11. Stirling — 12. Hurricane
13. AT-6A — 14. Moth Minor — 15. Lancaster
16. Me-108 "Taifun" — 17. Anson — 18. Condor
19. Ju-88 — 20. Harrow — 21. Ju-52
22. Airacobra — 23. GAC Monospar — 24. Spitfire
25. Whitley — 26. Fairchild 28W — 27. Battle
28. AT-6A — 29. P-51 — 30. AT-6A
31. Master II — 32. Me-109 — 33. Me-109E
34. Wellington II — 35. Wellington — 36. F4F
37. Battle — 38. Liberator — 39. Audax
40. A-20 — 41. Battle — 42. Hurricane
43. Master II — 44. Airacobra — 45. P-40
46. Airacobra — 47. AT-6A — 48. A-20
49. AT-6A — 50. F4F — 51. Master II
52. A-20 — 53. Battle — 54. F4F
55. Me-109 — 56. Master — 57. Beaufighter
58. P-51 — 59. Liberator — 60. P-51
61. AT-6 — 62. F4F — 63. P-51

HookedOnChthonics fucked around with this message at 10:38 on Dec 12, 2015

Plinkey
Aug 4, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Sixth Gen Laser time!

quote:

PALMDALE -- Amid signs of growing U.S. Air Force and Navy interest in a sixth-generation combat aircraft, Northrop Grumman is accelerating studies of key technologies for directed energy weapons and thermal management, which it says will be fundamental to future capability.

The company, whose last venture into the air dominance arena in the 1980s, the YF-23, lost out to Lockheed Martin’s F-22 in the advanced tactical fighter contest, has unveiled new images of a pair of optionally manned, tailless concepts aimed at replacing the Raptor and the Boeing F/A-18E/F. While acknowledging there are still more unknowns than knowns about future requirements for the next generation air dominance (NGAD) aircraft, Northrop says technology to cope with dramatic growth in heat loads will be a key enabler to whatever needs emerge.

The increase in heat loads is driven by the development of advanced weapons, particularly airborne lasers, as well as more powerful electronics, sensors and propulsion systems. The issue, which has already been a factor in early test and operations of the F-35, is expected to challenge all NGAD concepts. Under Northrop’s NGAD umbrella this includes the U.S. Air Force’s F-X requirements (now set to embrace an F-15C replacement in addition to the F-22), as well as the Navy’s F/A-XX mission.

Unlike any previous generation of air dominance aircraft at this embryonic stage, the configuration will be directly impacted by the integration challenges of directed energy weapons. “One of the unique things that happened (on NGAD) is the convergence of aircraft and weapons,” says Tom Vice, Northrop Grumman Aerospace Systems president. Despite the miniaturization of laser technology and the switch from bulky chemical-based systems to solid-state, electric lasers, Vice says thermal management is still key.

...

http://aviationweek.com/defense/northrop-grumman-studies-technologies-f-22-fa-18-replacement

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Ditching a CG-4A with troops on board is basically a worst-case scenario. Jesus.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

quote:

the U.S. Air Force’s F-X requirements (now set to embrace an F-15C replacement in addition to the F-22

This is so goddamned sad.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

They may as well also open a solicitation now to replace the F-X, F-22 and F-15C in 2100 now.

Ghosts n Gopniks
Nov 2, 2004

Imagine how much more sad and lonely we would be if not for the hard work of lowtax. Here's $12.95 to his aid.


Saab J29 Tunnan in white for USAF testing, unknown model and configuration, 1950's from a pilots private archives currently being shared on facebook because he's lost all of his shits about keeping it because the association/club for interest in Swedish fighter plane history has screwed him over so hard and he doesn't have long left in his life. Really lovely times.

e: dug deeper, he's shredded and thrown away everything, but not before photographing and taking it online. He found the interest club chiefs were using membership money frivolously and took it out into the open and the ones in charge decided to give him their worst. poo poo way to treat an original pilot who served in protecting Congo and all.

Ghosts n Gopniks fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Dec 13, 2015

n0tqu1tesane
May 7, 2003

She was rubbing her ass all over my hands. They don't just do that for everyone.
Grimey Drawer

buttcrackmenace posted:

youre doing it the hard way

get thee to the App Store and grab a copy of Office Lens

(it is free)

https://itunes.apple.com/en/app/office-lens/id975925059?mt=8

it recognizes, auto-straightens and auto-deskews pictures taken of printed material

also : MSFT dropped the requirement that you have either an Office365 or OneDrive account - you can save the corrected photos directly to your photo library, or dropbox, or w/e

works great for flat, single page documents. Not the greatest on bound material, but certainly better than nothing!


If you upload the documents to OneNote, it also does OCR.

MrChips
Jun 10, 2005

FLIGHT SAFETY TIP: Fatties out first

MrLonghair posted:



Saab J29 Tunnan in white for USAF testing, unknown model and configuration, 1950's from a pilots private archives currently being shared on facebook because he's lost all of his shits about keeping it because the association/club for interest in Swedish fighter plane history has screwed him over so hard and he doesn't have long left in his life. Really lovely times.

e: dug deeper, he's shredded and thrown away everything, but not before photographing and taking it online. He found the interest club chiefs were using membership money frivolously and took it out into the open and the ones in charge decided to give him their worst. poo poo way to treat an original pilot who served in protecting Congo and all.

Uh, that's a Bell X-5...no relation to the Tunnan.

Ghosts n Gopniks
Nov 2, 2004

Imagine how much more sad and lonely we would be if not for the hard work of lowtax. Here's $12.95 to his aid.

MrChips posted:

Uh, that's a Bell X-5...no relation to the Tunnan.

I blame the 82 year old pilot. Looks hella Tunnan, and all three look hella P.1101
e: the tail detail is the key! Alright, X-5 is freaking pretty

Ghosts n Gopniks fucked around with this message at 01:06 on Dec 13, 2015

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Oh, and today is the 30th Anniversary of the Arrow Air Crash, the worst civil aviation disaster in United States Military history, and the worst disaster in Canadian aviation.

Short form of what happened: The facts are that on December 12, 1985, a Arrow Air DC-8 took off from Gander International airport, with a crew of six and 248 soldiers of the 101st Airborne. The soldiers were flying home for Christmas after serving as peacekeepers in Beirut. The plane left the runway and immediately crashed, belly flopping into the woods overlooking Gander lake. All were killed. (It actually could have been worse - the crew had the choice of taking off over the lake or taking off over the town of Gander. As somebody who grew up there, I can be glad the pilot choose the lake route, as if the incident had happened over the town, the DC-8 would have taken out the local fire station on crashing, and Gander would have a name like Lockerbie, Scotland.)

As to the causes of the crash, well, it is a mess. I could do an effortpost on this subject, but it is safe to say the causes are controversial, and several questions remain in a superposition that are unlikely to collapse into an answer anytime soon. Unlike in America, the remains of the DC-8 were disposed of after investigation, so there is nothing left to base further inquiry on. The DC-8 was very run down, with its cockpit monitors capturing nothing, and its flight recorder a 1950s model so badly out of adjustment, the only data recorded was when the DC-8 left the runway. FBI explosive experts sent to Gander to help with the investigation (like in the later Lockerbie bombing, where the FBI helped extensively) were mysteriously recalled and sent home as soon as they arrived, and the crash was almost immediately attributed to ice on the wings.

Later investigation by CASB, the body charged with air crash investigation, only managed to confirm that ice on the wings could not have been the cause. CASB and its chief investigator (in his first and last air crash investigation, his previous experience in air crash investigation being limited to a two week FAA course taken in Los Angeles) doggedly maintained the ice on the wings thesis in the face of further evidence. Here's our first superposition - CASB did this because [they were really incompetent / somebody told them to make the findings as uncontroversial as possible.] Ronald Reagen actually had several reasons to ask his BFF Canadian PM Brian Mulroney to intervene. For one, Arrow Air was used by the CIA to smuggle weapons to Iran, a larger piece of the yet-undiscovered Iran-Contra affair. For another, Reagen's popularity reached its lowest point with the bombing of the Beirut barracks by terrorists. Given these involvements, it is possible Reagen called on Mulroney fearing these things, but in fact Arrow Air crashed for some other reason.

The DC-8 stopped in both Cairo and Cologne before flying across the Atlantic. In Cairo, some of the soldier's gear was unloaded to make room for large wooden crates, approximately coffin sized. This cargo was accompanied by 2 well dressed men assumed to be secret-squirrel types by the soldiers. Later investigation also revealed that security on the apron was lax, with 'lots and lots of guys' hanging out with the baggage crew. These were apparently Hawk missiles being returned by the Iranians. An anonymous phone call to Reuters in Beirut the morning of the crash claimed the wreck was the result of the Islamic Jihad, working with an Egyptian terrorist group, and that the bomb was set to go off as the airplane was landing in the United States, but the flight had been delayed in Cairo. This call was repeated to the American Consul-general in Algeria, and to an Italian news agency. (The 1980s saw what us moderns would call a shitload of terrorist bombs claiming airliners; something that we've sort of forgotten.) Post-mordem analysis of the deceased flight crew revealed hydrogen cyanide in the blood of 6 of 8, with the flight engineer having already received a lethal dose. The medical examiner ruled out anyone being able to survive the crash, which meant the crew was breathing toxic fumes before the crash - consistent with a fire. It turns out most of the remains that could be tested showed signs of elevated carbon monoxide levels, elevated hydrogen cyanide levels, or both. Any sort of mention of these toxicology results was absent from CASB's final report. (CASB later tried to dismiss the toxicology findings by saying that every person that had these elevated levels had also survived the crash for about 30 seconds. Two problems here - the number of people with these elevated levels is about 150, and apparently despite surviving these 150 people made no attempts to escape the flaming wreck. Firemen on the scene testified that saw no signs of people surviving the crash.)

Then there is the matter of the #4 engine, which apparently had its thrust reverse extended, or was possibly at idle at the time of the crash. These could have been the causes of the crash by itself, but were never investigated by CASB, so it remains just another cat, state unknown, in a box as far as explanations go.

And that's the gist of it really - CASB did such a bad job for whatever reason that finding the real cause of the crash would have been easier had the DC-8 gone done mid-Atlantic. The whole affair was investigated by a Canadian supreme court justice. CASB claimed that it was Ice on the wings that caused the crash, and some of CASB's board of directors said an explosion, most likely a terrorist bomb. The supreme court justice, Willard Estey, found that the evidence supported nether conclusion - a minor vindication of the minority report, and a big stamp of "yes, the investigation was screwed" over the whole portfolio. The bereaved of the Arrow Air flight managed to get the matter an actual congressional hearing, who then managed to get someone from transport Canada, who claimed 1) there was no evidence whatsoever that ice was the cause of the crash, 2) but that didn't stop him from signing off on the report saying ice was the cause of the crash, because "nobody asked him", and 3) it wasn't ice, it was "freezing mist." The congressmen called him crazy and derelict in his duty. Of course, saying that, the second day of the hearing was also the last one, when the committee rather abruptly gave a prepared statement saying that 1) them Canadians clearly hosed up, and 2) we refer the whole thing to the Attorney General and the executive (IE the President) to keep a eye on the whole thing.

So, the memorial is a nice place. It is situated on the North shore of Gander lake - The lake runs roughly east-west, 20 km long but only 2 km wide, a deep loch of a lake. The surrounding hillsides are black spruce, birch, and fir. Juniper has grown up in the paths carved by the airport firetrucks that raced to the crash. The statue itself is just after where the runway lights end, down a road marked with the somewhat incongruous "Screaming Eagle Head" of the 101st airborne. All of this is beneath the level of the nearby trans-Canada highway, which isolates the memorial from the highway noise. People walk their dogs there.

3 Action Economist
May 22, 2002

Educate. Agitate. Liberate.
There was an Air Disasters episode of that one.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Colonial Air Force posted:

There was an Air Disasters episode of that one.

It was also on last night at right about the time that post was made.

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?

Smirk
Sep 20, 2005

The truth never set me free so I'll do it myself.

I was curious as to what the switch actually is, so I did some image searches for overhead panels. Turns out it's for the "sterile light" on an Embraer ERJ135/145 - had to search again to find out what the heck that is.

The Ferret King
Nov 23, 2003

cluck cluck

Smirk posted:

I was curious as to what the switch actually is, so I did some image searches for overhead panels. Turns out it's for the "sterile light" on an Embraer ERJ135/145 - had to search again to find out what the heck that is.

Well what is it?

A red light?

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


At the wavelength that makes you have only daughters

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

"Some airlines have installed a cockpit-controlled "sterile cockpit light" that can be illuminated when descending below 10,000 feet and extinguished when climbing above 10,000 feet."

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
http://asrs.arc.nasa.gov/publications/directline/dl4_sterile.htm

So it's not about turning the cockpit into a makeshift surgical room.

Smirk
Sep 20, 2005

The truth never set me free so I'll do it myself.

The Ferret King posted:

Well what is it?

A red light?

No, it's a blue light outside the cockpit door that acts as a 'do not disturb' indicator. I think we were all hoping it'd be something zanier than that, like a UV light to prevent bacteria growth on cockpit surfaces.

Prop Wash
Jun 12, 2010



Smirk posted:

I was curious as to what the switch actually is, so I did some image searches for overhead panels. Turns out it's for the "sterile light" on an Embraer ERJ135/145 - had to search again to find out what the heck that is.

Only in the AI thread

VOR LOC
Dec 8, 2007
captured

Smirk posted:

No, it's a blue light outside the cockpit door that acts as a 'do not disturb' indicator. I think we were all hoping it'd be something zanier than that, like a UV light to prevent bacteria growth on cockpit surfaces.

I really wish this was a thing. I wash my hands before and after every flight and every time, at every company I've worked at, the amount of crud that comes off of my hands is incredible. God pilots are gross.

ehnus
Apr 16, 2003

Now you're thinking with portals!


"Sir, that won't fit in the overhead bin, we will have to check it."

HookedOnChthonics
Dec 5, 2015

Profoundly dull


I ended up running into some pretty exhausting unanticipated travel difficulties so this is a little later and a little lighter than I might prefer, but... the spirit of :justpost: fills me with determination.

This post is focused on :godwin:'s goshawks, the fighting hardware of the Luftwaffe.

The British cutaways were the product of artists working in secrecy from whatever examples of enemy equipment could be secured—be it fully intact or mangled wreckage. One such artist was Peter Endsleigh Castle, who was officially assigned to a cartography unit as a cover, and here pictured trying to decipher what used to be a Ju-188.


There was little in the way of formally codified technique or instruction, and the pressure on the artists was pretty high—when Castle was drafted, it was into a frantic semi-organized task force whose remit was "stop the Fw-190s from shooting down so many Spitfires, and do it yesterday." By the end of the war he was practiced enough at producing precise drawings of that particular aircraft that in a post-war briefing an impressed Kurt Tank signed one of his cutaways as being essentially definitive:



Now with that bare minimum of interesting historical context established, on with the cutaways:









God the He-117 was a bizarre plane.











Everything below this line is strictly Nur fur den Dienstgebtauch :commissar:

















HookedOnChthonics fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Dec 14, 2015

Butt Reactor
Oct 6, 2005

Even in zero gravity, you're an asshole.

VOR LOC posted:

I really wish this was a thing. I wash my hands before and after every flight and every time, at every company I've worked at, the amount of crud that comes off of my hands is incredible. God pilots are gross.

It's common practice to have no less than a heaping handful of sanitizer wipes strewn about the flight deck at my carrier. Apparently lost revenue from sick flight crews is worth the cost of us going through several dozen wipes per trip :homebrew:

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

HookedOnChthonics posted:

God the He-177 was a bizarre plane.

I actually had to zoom in on the cockpit, I've never seen it illustrated before.



Not sure if the guy on the left is the bombardier, the radar operator, or throwing up. The waist-ish gunner and the rear turret gunner are in their own little compartments, essentially cocooned in armored glass. The tail gunner is also has to lie prone when firing.

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HookedOnChthonics
Dec 5, 2015

Profoundly dull



Went ahead and nabbed some (slightly) better quality shots for you—I've been restraining myself from including detail shots to cut down on the image spam, but can happily go back and get stuff people are interested in. Also, the guy on left may be depicted operating a glide bomb?







It was nicknamed 'the flaming coffin' by crews due to the unusual engine setup's tendency towards catastrophic overheats.


And have some turrets too. Tomorrow I'll post operational and tactical diagrams.









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