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Chalks posted:What a load of poo poo, I knew they'd never pull this off but I thought at least they'd make some token effort then give up rather than design the entire system around bullshit from the ground up. Oh come on. Tell me you didn't REALLY think they'd try to simulate 20 million NPCs beyond them being numbers in a database that get changed every now and then. 
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Iglocska posted:Frankly, it doesn't influence my views much either way. Chris and Sandi don't have programmers chained to radiators toiling away while they lash them, and honestly, I just don't care that much about the people involved and what they choose to subject themselves to; they're adults producing a product I happen to be interested in, I feel no more outrage about it or emotional connection to them than I did about, say, Foxconn's working conditions, which is to say not much. For the financial fraud: so long as they manage their financials well enough to get past the finish line, I don't think the status of the rest of their money or how they spent it matters all that much. I don't base my interest in other products on what the profit margins and spending decisions made by their producers are, and I don't see a compelling case for why that should be the case here, either. If they don't make it out the door, then there should definitely be an inquiry into why it happened, and financial mismanagement should have appropriate consequences. you've gone full octopode on us
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Truga posted:Oh come on. Tell me you didn't REALLY think they'd try to simulate 20 million NPCs beyond them being numbers in a database that get changed every now and then. About as much as I think they're going to try to have a game where their 1 million "players" can play. That's what, 20 npcs each? Obviously the whole plan is never going to happen but it's pretty loving retarded to say "oh yeah we've got 20 million npcs" but never actually let anyone see most of them. I mean gently caress if you're going to do that why not say you have 20 billion? It's exactly the same functionally, except the 20 million figure vaguely sounds like they might be actually doing something besides pulling an arbitrary number out of your rear end.
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Truga posted:Oh come on. Tell me you didn't REALLY think they'd try to simulate 20 million NPCs beyond them being numbers in a database that get changed every now and then. Those numbers aren't going to change very often though. Remember all the gunk in the database that builds up when you fiddle with it. Too much and it just starts pouring out of the servers and then they have to call a Lesnick to hoover it up.
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The best thing is that the SC masses are expecting stations filled with NPCs and lots of NPC ships in space, not to mention AI for multicrew ships 
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Daztek posted:The best thing is that the SC masses are expecting stations filled with NPCs and lots of NPC ships in space, not to mention AI for multicrew ships If spawning too many ships is causing the entire server to suffer imagine what'll happen when you have 50 other systems, npc crews and actual npc trading lines or whatever. Of course, its much easier to say something than actually do it
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Freelancer and hell, elite 2 did all this. It just did it smart and only spawned NPCs in a small bubble just outside radar range, and likewise deleted them when they went too far again. That was in 1994. I honestly don't see SC doing anything different.
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Truga posted:I'll nominate Lesnick for the Darwin awards tbh. The good thing is that Ben cannot reproduce unless he can find his dick and touch it. Or if he has evolved into a hermaphrodite which is not that impossible given all the Michelin type of body he have he is basically covered with vaginas
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Iglocska posted:Frankly, it doesn't influence my views much either way. Chris and Sandi don't have programmers chained to radiators toiling away while they lash them, and honestly, I just don't care that much about the people involved and what they choose to subject themselves to; they're adults producing a product I happen to be interested in, I feel no more outrage about it or emotional connection to them than I did about, say, Foxconn's working conditions, which is to say not much. For the financial fraud: so long as they manage their financials well enough to get past the finish line, I don't think the status of the rest of their money or how they spent it matters all that much. I don't base my interest in other products on what the profit margins and spending decisions made by their producers are, and I don't see a compelling case for why that should be the case here, either. If they don't make it out the door, then there should definitely be an inquiry into why it happened, and financial mismanagement should have appropriate consequences. Isn't Ben basically a puppy/mascot under their care? He is the 'chained to the radiators'. vvv fedora symbol marks intended consumer vvv Sillybones fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Dec 14, 2015 |
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Dec 14, 2015 14:44
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In honor of  I would like to extend the following offer to brave goons. The culinary wizards at Pizza Hut have devised this creation  . If any poor goons would like to document their consumption of this in its entirety in one evening I will happily have it delivered to your abode.  
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EminusSleepus posted:The good thing is that Ben cannot reproduce unless he can find his dick and touch it. Or if he has evolved into a hermaphrodite which is not that impossible given all the Michelin type of body he have he is basically covered with vaginas My porntube search history offers some inventive ways for fatties to get it on.
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So I decided to start a competitor to SC, to be the bestest drat space sim game in die welt (BDSSGIDW) I've currently have the first ship as a backer reward for everyone who wants to invest with no return, uh, I mean donate  You can visit my patreon at:
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What's the deal with the latest alpha, anyway? I haven't been following SC news at all for months, but saw headlines that alpha 2.0 is now available, so I went to my old SC launcher to upgrade. It failed to upgrade, so I uninstalled and reinstalled fresh. Then I login and go to some city where I can run around? And see other players run around? And not a single loving thing to actually DO in this city? What THEN I finally go to some station instead, where at long last, I can request my ship to a platform, jump into my ship, and take off! To space! And I go at 0.2 lightspeed over to some random station or something several thousand kilometers away, at which point my game promptly crashes. I assume that if I try again I could hypothetically find things to do in space? That'd be nice. But what's the deal with the boring empty city? That all seems as useless as my hangar. Maybe some day, many decades from now, this will be a cohesive space citizen videogame
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:you've gone full octopode on us I don't know what you mean! http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3748466&userid=155380&perpage=40&pagenumber=4#post453373322
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neonbregna posted:In honor of Read this as triple threat instead of triple treat and it made more sense with my first reading.
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Dusty Lens posted:The two words Ben fears most the in the world are standing applause. 
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Iglocska posted:I don't know what you mean! i didn't realize it was a verbatim quote lol
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:i didn't realize it was a verbatim quote A quote that perfect begs to be reused!
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HJE-Cobra posted:What's the deal with the latest alpha, anyway? I haven't been following SC news at all for months, but saw headlines that alpha 2.0 is now available, so I went to my old SC launcher to upgrade. It failed to upgrade, so I uninstalled and reinstalled fresh. The city you visited was something from an earlier version when they first introduced the basic social features (friends, chat, gesture system). 2.0 is the Port Olivar zone, which is a planetary system where you start on a station and can request ships, then go out and do some basic example missions. F10 brings up the mission GUI.
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 Is this one of you lot taking the piss
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Did anyone ever figure out if Chris will let you skip the cutscenes in his movie? I was hanging out with my most nerd-addicted friend the other day and discovered, while playing the witcher 3, that he will skip any and every word of dialog, even in a room full of people yelling at him to stop. I now fear SQ42 part1's 10 hours of cut scenes might not go over well with your average "gamer". I hope Sandi has a good plan to find more suckers when that poo poo releases. P Gabz should start a friendly poll of how many people plan to skip the cutscenes on their first time playing SQ42
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WabT1L-nN-E Man the harpoons boys, tonight you shall feast on whale flesh. e: it's hilarious that before starting to address the issue the thread was created for he had to do the mandatory minimum one paragraph blowjob so the thread could be framed as "constructive criticism". You see that all the time it's like maoist china in there, they're living under a "blanket of fear" if you will. 
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Gotcha, you're turned on by obese people dying. NEXT.
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neonbregna posted:My porntube search history offers some inventive ways for fatties to get it on. I believe that it would take a massive amount of effort for Ben to raise his hands for around 5 seconds.
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Geguri Gegogi posted:So I decided to start a competitor to SC, to be the bestest drat space sim game in die welt (BDSSGIDW) Is it no step because there will never be a ship available to step on? I say excellent fidelity old boy I'll order a thousand just as soon as I've converted my garage into the Galactica's flight deck
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The worst thing about Lesnick is the poor sods that will have to cart is blubbery rear end to hospital when Ol' Lord time raps at his door with a boney knuckle. (insert Sandi joke here)
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alphabettitouretti posted:Remember all the gunk in the database that builds up when you fiddle with it. Too much and it just starts pouring out of the servers and then they have to call a Lesnick to hoover it up.
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Xaerael posted:The worst thing about Lesnick is the poor sods that will have to cart is blubbery rear end to hospital when Ol' Lord time raps at his door with a boney knuckle. (insert Sandi joke here) I feel I've made this extremely poor taste joke before. I can't remember though, and these threads seem to go in circles.
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My daughter was playing a video game yesterday and I thought it was star citizen when I saw her character sit down in a chair with full animation I was stunned by how groundbreaking this game was and I knew I had been wrong about everything. PC REVOLUTION!!!! is real at last Turns out she was playing sims
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:Seems everyone forgets his promise to gain two pounds for every million funded: This Full Burn song, there's something that was never clear to me. Did they leak the lyrics and some goon did a cover to mock them or did CIG actually pay some poor bastard to sing that schlock? 
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Daztek posted:Npc in star citizen Because all of that is what's called "baffling them with bullshit". It will all boil down to "yesterday there were 473 pirate ambushes with 300 mortal victims and there is a need to replace the lost ships and resources so the price of shitanium has gone up 2.5 UECs" but all of this is "going on in the background and you don't necessarily (as in never) see it". e: f;b should have finished reading the thread Chalks posted:It'll work really easily - it's actually an astonishing cop out. MeLKoR fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Dec 14, 2015 |
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Seriously Loiosh? Dude, it was a big post.  Oh, well...Not sure how you missed my post, but, you said you would lose faith if by mid December (I quoted my source) they didn't have 2.0 and working as promised. They did release 2.0 (only to coincide with more sales) and it's a buggy mess, you even say so... so the question is, did you lose faith because they did not deliver as you stated they should have and as they promised... pretty much everything is hosed up and better stability isn't anything amazing after *13* patches. That was my question, thanks! edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXk7o84MZPo ZenMaster fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Dec 14, 2015 |
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Daztek posted:Npc in star citizen Simming NPC AI behavior will be claimed in the millions, but it'll be reduced to a fraction due to scaling. But you can always say "We CAN simulate millions of NPC AI's, there's just no need for it with our current player base numbers."
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:you've gone full octopode on us 
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Star Citizen is getting into my Starsector. Noooooo http://fractalsoftworks.com/forum/index.php?topic=10309.0 quote:I wonder if you're aware you are directly copy/pasting the rhetoric of a failed games developer who calls himself an 'internet warlord' and is well known for stalking and harassing both CIG staff and members of the Star Citizen community. It's not a particularly cool attitude to have.
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ZenMaster posted:9:45 is when Sandi says the important part 9:25 gives a better picture of what she's talking about.
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I think I'm starting to hate D_Smart. He's stealing our thunder. The nerds don't have Goonfear any more, they have Smartfear. Go away, Smartypants. You suck. (jk, you can stay. it's pretty fun watching nerds run around the entire internet putting out the fires you start)
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Stalkerr posted:Star Citizen is getting into my Starsector. Noooooo quote:Star Citizen has no extensive universe to base a faction or total conversion on, 95% would have to be made up on the spot.
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Stalkerr posted:Star Citiz OK I'm done playing nice.
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