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I'm not entirely sure why they included the pale elves from Hellboy 2, but it still looks more enjoyable than Into Darkness.
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Dec 14, 2015 18:17
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Atrocious Joe posted:I'm not entirely sure why they included the pale elves from Hellboy 2, but it still looks more enjoyable than Into Darkness. It has to be better than Into Darkness. That movie was so bad.
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Dec 14, 2015 18:25
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Those uniforms are more like the old ones. Ironically for all the bitching I've seen elsewhere so far for 90 seconds of footage it looks the most like a movie based off the original series.
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Dec 14, 2015 18:28
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Real Name Grover posted:It's been some time since I've run through TOS but if any of that is a callback to something that happened, I'm missing it Frank Gorshin black-and-white allegory people?
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Dec 14, 2015 18:31
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It's incredibly f*cked up that Star Trek of all things is going for a camp, goofy tone. Gene Roddenberry must be rolling in his grave ...
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Dec 14, 2015 18:32
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Dec 14, 2015 18:36
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What determines whether a writer gets an "AND" credit or an "&" credit?
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Dec 14, 2015 18:51
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There was a cliffhanger moment somewhere in that trailer that's almost definitely a callback to Star Trek V
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Dec 14, 2015 18:57
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& is usually a writing team while AND is someone else's draft that got enough used to qualify for a credit.
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^^^ well you learn something new all the timeSupercar Gautier posted:What determines whether a writer gets an "AND" credit or an "&" credit? Orci is the only writer returning from the previous two films, and he's also a producer on this one. Simon Pegg comes first cause he's one of the stars, and Doug Jung probably did the lion's share of the work on the actual screenplay.
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Dec 14, 2015 19:01
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SImon Pegg killed Star Trek.
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Dec 14, 2015 19:23
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That many writers is never, ever, a good sign.
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Dec 14, 2015 19:26
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Orci is actual poison
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Dec 14, 2015 19:31
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Just as Jurassic World felt like poo poo because it was a dinosaur movie built on the premise that "nobody gives a poo poo about dinosaurs anymore," this will probably feel like poo poo because it's a Star Trek movie built on the premise that "nobody gives a poo poo about outer space stuff anymore."
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Dec 14, 2015 19:38
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Polo-Rican posted:Just as Jurassic World felt like poo poo because it was a dinosaur movie built on the premise that "nobody gives a poo poo about dinosaurs anymore," this will probably feel like poo poo because it's a Star Trek movie built on the premise that "nobody gives a poo poo about outer space stuff anymore." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6ZVrbnG97w
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Dec 14, 2015 19:40
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The most critically and commercially successful Star Trek film of all time, as well as being a fan favourite, was a fish out of water comedy about saving the whales set in 1980s San Francisco; it's always been a slightly naff, tounge in cheek series. With that many writing credits I do wonder if it'll be a case of too many cooks, but if it's bad it won't be because it's set outside the Enterprise and has comedy in it
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Dec 14, 2015 19:51
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Terrorist Fistbump posted:^^^ well you learn something new all the time Kind of. Pegg did do the bulk of the writing, he's confirmed in interviews that he wanted to quit a few times until Abrams convinced him otherwise. Orci was booted off long ago (And likely wrote the first draft), the other writers are contractual obligations. Subsequent drafts after Orci were all done by Pegg/Jung. Again, Orci is just there because of contractual obligations. He essentially poisoned his own relationship with Paramount by scaring them off Joe Cornish and then insisting he direct it himself despite never being behind a camera. He's essentially nuts. It's not really the dire situation it looks, though I can see why they wanted to flash past that credit quick.
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Dec 14, 2015 20:10
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Destroying the Enterprise in the third movie? Sounds familiar... (Also: threat to Earth, check. No bad-guy supership yet, but maybe all those little ones come from one.)
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DrVenkman posted:Kind of. Pegg did do the bulk of the writing, he's confirmed in interviews that he wanted to quit a few times until Abrams convinced him otherwise. Orci was booted off long ago (And likely wrote the first draft), the other writers are contractual obligations. Payne and McKay worked on Orci's first draft with him -- the draft that got him fired -- which is why they're credited. A Steampunk Gent posted:The most critically and commercially successful Star Trek film of all time, as well as being a fan favourite, was a fish out of water comedy about saving the whales set in 1980s San Francisco The Voyage Home made $133 million. Into Darkness pulled in $467 million. Timby fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Dec 14, 2015 |
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A Steampunk Gent posted:The most critically and commercially successful Star Trek film of all time, as well as being a fan favourite, was a fish out of water comedy about saving the whales set in 1980s San Francisco; it's always been a slightly naff, tounge in cheek series. If you're a dweeb that ignores '09 I suppose.
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Timby posted:Payne and McKay worked on Orci's first draft with him -- the draft that got him fired -- which is why they're credited. Yeah sorry I mean it's why they're all still credited despite the fact they were fired. Usually they'd get a story credit.
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Dec 14, 2015 20:25
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I wasn't even aware the next film had even been shot yet. And I find out that not only has it been filmed, but it was filmed by Justin loving Lin. Because gently caress Star Trek.
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Dec 14, 2015 20:35
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DrVenkman posted:Yeah sorry I mean it's why they're all still credited despite the fact they were fired. Usually they'd get a story credit. Writing credits are weird, and they always have been with the Star Trek movies -- Jack Sowards is credited with The Wrath of Khan despite Meyer actually writing it; Steve Meerson and Peter Krikes have a screenplay credit on The Voyage Home (they wrote the draft with Eddie Murphy in it) even though Bennett and Meyer threw out everything they did; Mark Rosenthal and Lawrence Konner have a story credit on The Undiscovered Country even though they didn't actually do any real work on the movie.
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Dec 14, 2015 20:42
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The new trailer looks great. It looks like a modernized version of TOS and I have faith in the Peggster to have written something at least a little bit interesting and unconventional. Even the alien planet set has a little bit of the charming fakeness of the TOS sets. Then again I mostly liked Into Darkness despite its problems so what do I know.
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Dec 14, 2015 20:43
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Colonel Whitey posted:The new trailer looks great. It looks like a modernized version of TOS and I have faith in the Peggster to have written something at least a little bit interesting and unconventional. Even the alien planet set has a little bit of the charming fakeness of the TOS sets. Then again I mostly liked Into Darkness despite its problems so what do I know. This is a funny post. I laughed.
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wyoming posted:If you're a dweeb that ignores '09 I suppose. He said Star Trek, not hog poo poo.
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Dec 14, 2015 20:55
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I'm eagerly waiting for supermechagodzillas review of the movie, due next week or so. Unironically.
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Are those Buffy Vampires a race from one of the tv shows?
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I just appalled this Star Trek film looks like Star Trek. Seriously
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A Steampunk Gent posted:I just appalled this Star Trek film looks like Star Trek. Seriously It looks like Star Trek Nemesis.
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Dec 14, 2015 21:27
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Trailer gave away way too much, and seemed a little too Fast'n'Furiosy whatever that means. Not hating because Trek movies work well as action movies, but I fear this will continue to move away from what was really entertaining about ST09. Will lose my poo poo if Idris Elba is the Sisko though (he;s definitely a Klingon)
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Dec 14, 2015 21:28
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If this exact trailer came out and nobody knew Justin Lin was the director nobody would be complaining about it looking like Fast and Furious. It actually looks remarkably consistent with the previous two films, more so than I thought it would. I don't even like F&F or Justin Lin, I just thought this trailer was very good.
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Junkie Disease posted:He said Star Trek, not hog poo poo. So why are you discussing STIV?
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I like Fast and Furious. I also like Star Trek. Mashing them together will be interesting. Whether it's GOOD, who knows?
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It looks dope. Everything I wished those lovely TNG movies were when my dad took me to see them as a kid. Plus, Idris Elba as a weird Alien? hell yeah dude
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