Ikantski posted:

(probably not 1876 bad though when the Liberals first created residential schools).

Christy Clark posted:

Q: In October, the consulting firm IHS Inc. came out with a report saying 19 out of 20 planned gas export projects in the world won't be needed by 2025. Most won't happen. Do you disagree with that?

A: I don't know. I don't know what the answer is to that. But I do know that in British Columbia we've got one of the most politically, economically stable jurisdictions in the world. That is a huge asset for us... I can't speak to the report. I haven't seen it and I don't know if it's credible, the people who did it.

CLAM DOWN posted:

There are times I question if Christy Clark is real, or if she's an agent of Satan sent to destroy us

THC posted:

THC posted:

One project that's been at the forefront is the one involving Petronas, which is owned by the Malaysian government. Prime Minister Najib Razak was found to have $700 million U.S. in a personal account that he said came from a donor. He was quoted this week saying his conscience is clear, but the scandal has dragged on for months. How big a factor are Malaysian politics on what happens with that project?
From what I understand is it isn't. Petronas is independent. It's a government-owned company but it hasn't been a part of this scandal in any way, so it hasn't affected Petronas. They seem to be steady as she goes.

Ever had a political donation go through a personal bank account?
[Shakes head no, smiling.] But here that's not legal, right? I don't know what's legal there.

But $700 million?
That seems like a lot of money. Makes me feel like I went into business in the wrong country.

MikeSevigny posted:

Reminder that we're a year out from an election where Christy is going to run on "the NDP is saying no to all these LNG jobs that are coming ANY MINUTE NOW," ie her exact platform from 2013, and she'll probably win on it too because she's basically running unopposed at this point. Unless she manages to kill a player for the Canucks instead of her usual targets (lazy union employees, mentally deranged teenagers, etc.), then people might get mad.

ocrumsprug posted:

I am trying to get comfortable with the fact that the BCLibs are going to be around for awhile yet.

sliderule posted:

It doesn't come as a shock that the CRA has been manipulated by the previous government to hamper audits and collection against tax cheats.

The National Post spares no time explaining that it's a BREACH OF ETHICS for insiders to disclose this fact.

quote:

Alberta Premier Rachel Notley faces a much higher level of threatened violence and personal attack in posts online in the past week — and since her election — than her male counterparts ever get, says a University of Calgary professor.

In the past week, there have been angry social media posts that Notley should be shot, stabbed, or even thrown into a tree grinder. Some of the posts have referred to her as a b---h and other offensive terms.

"It's a whole class of crap that men in politics don't have to think about, much less address," said Melanee Thomas, an assistant professor of political science at the University of Calgary.

Many of the comments stem from the controversy over Bill 6, which extends occupational health and safety rules and workers compensation coverage to paid farm workers in the province.

Even when people fundamentally disagreed with male politicians of a similar level — such as former premiers Ralph Klein and Jim Prentice or former prime minister Stephen Harper — they didn't attack them online with nearly this level of violence, said Thomas, who studies gender-based political inequality.

"We see nastiness that is directed at politicians all of the time, and they deal a lot with that," said Thomas. "It's the level of the nastiness that's directed toward women, particularly the NDP in this case, that we find to be rather alarming. Not surprising, but certainly alarming."

Notley's team made rare move of posting Facebook rules in spring

In the spring, Notley's social media team posted guidelines on Facebook telling people how to conduct themselves in the comments. Among the requirements were restrictions on violent speech and pornographic language.

Thomas can't recall a time that any other Canadian premier had to do the same.

Some have questioned whether the threats against Notley and her cabinet members are "real" security concerns, but Thomas says that doesn't matter.

"It's not harmless, especially in a province that has a terrible track record for violence against women. They might be empty threats and a lot of the bombastic political rhetoric is kind of empty but it's not okay to say, 'I don't like you as a politician therefore I want to kill you.'".

Other politicians urged to do more to curb threats

Thomas also says other politicians have a duty to try to suppress such discourse. She says Wildrose Party Leader Brian Jean, who made headlines when he spoke out against the online threats, allowed offensive posts to remain on his Facebook page far too long.

"The leader of the official opposition should have had his staff on this like a dirty shirt. If he was sincere about saying that this wasn't OK, those comments should never have been that visible in the space that he moderates.... Those comments were up for days," said Thomas.

She says everyone needs to do what they can to stop these kind of comments from starting and spreading.

"I think people need to call out friends, family and acquaintances, who they hear saying these sorts of things and say, 'Dude, there's a boundary there and you've blown over it. That's not okay, stop it.'"

ocrumsprug posted:

The infinite LNG jobs was the greatest election promise ever made. They get to hide the failure behind the global price of energy, foreign companies not getting around to building anything and the NDP/enviromentalists/feds standing in the way for everything. It is perfect deniability.

Also the Childrens Ministry is all but murdering children in care and they are blaming people criticizing the ministry for the deaths.

I am trying to get comfortable with the fact that the BCLibs are going to be around for awhile yet.

DariusLikewise posted:

U of C Professor says Notley is getting death threats because she is a woman

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/rachel-notley-death-threats-1.3363938

Morroque posted:

Has Wynne been getting the same attacks for the same reason, or has it been amplified for Notley given how it is likely coming from both 1) people of the opposite political persuasion, and 2) people adversely affected by the global oil drop?

This must've worked out nicely for the Wild Rose. The NDP once again is left holding a goblet poisoned by just how badly the Tories screwed up beforehand.

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You're simply the best and definitely the COOLEST premier heart emoticon

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Kathleen Wynne YOUR A TOOL LCBO SHOULD NOT BE SELLING WEED IT SHOULD ONLY BE SELLING BOOZE THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO IT AND SHOULD NOT TALK ABOUT A MONEY CASH GRAB IS THIS SO YOU CAN SPEND MORE MONEY AND JUST WASTE LIKE YOU DO ON YOUR 16 DOLLAR GLASS OF ORANGE JUICE THAT WE PAY FOR SO YOU CAN LIVE LIKE A QUEEN YOU ARE 100% A NAZI YOU DON,T EVEN CARE FOR CANADA I HOPE THE REFUGEES WAKE UP AND REALIZE THAT YOU ARE SCUM

PT6A posted:

I agree that Notley would probably be getting the same attacks if she were Richard Notley instead, if she followed the same policies. The language used would be different, but I don't think the farmers would suddenly be okay with Bill 6 if it were championed by a man instead of a woman, nor do I think they would be less insane in their disproportionate reaction.

Morroque posted:

Is it obvious within Alberta that this is in direct reaction to Bill 6?

DariusLikewise posted:

I hate hypotheticals, but it's possible that if Richard Notley introduced Bill 6 people may have given it more of a look instead of just revving up their tractors and grabbing the pitchforks or maybe Alberta just really really hates change, which blows my mind how the NDP won a majority.

PT6A posted:

I agree that Notley would probably be getting the same attacks if she were Richard Notley instead, if she followed the same policies. The language used would be different, but I don't think the farmers would suddenly be okay with Bill 6 if it were championed by a man instead of a woman, nor do I think they would be less insane in their disproportionate reaction.

Sexism in politics continues to be a very serious issue, but I don't think Notley is getting death threats because of her gender.

bunnyofdoom posted:

BC gov is not being poo poo! regarding highway of tears

vyelkin posted:

It's probably important to remember that the people who are opposed to Bill 6 are probably not people who voted for Notley in the first place, so it's unlikely this whole thing would negatively affect her poll numbers.

bunnyofdoom posted:

BC gov is not being poo poo! regarding highway of tears

Ikantski posted:

Agreeing to implement the TRC in full was even more unrealistic than promising to bring in 25k refugees this year. It is bad for Canada because instead of managing expectations, our government is making large, unkeepable promises to the First Nations. Making big commitments may temporarily improve relations, breaking most of those commitments will leave those relationships worse than before (probably not 1876 bad though when the Liberals first created residential schools).

Trudeau promising to implement the full document (http://www.trc.ca/websites/trcinstitution/File/2015/Findings/Calls_to_Action_English2.pdf), one of which is to implement in full another 46 articles from the UN (http://www.un.org/esa/socdev/unpfii/documents/DRIPS_en.pdf) is not going to happen. I'm not going to argue whether they should or shouldn't happen. I'm saying that even if every civil servant and lawmaker started right now, there is no way they could implement those documents in 20 years let alone 4.

The costing is one thing, it would be hugely expensive but the logistics of some of the changes in there are sticky wickets beyond cost.




Trudeau's "implement it all" was vote winning, populist bullcrap that I predict will leave the situation worse than it was before. The conservative wasn't being racist. She was pointing out that, much like the rest of the Liberal platform, they promised something that they knew they couldn't do.

Mulcair, justice warrior extraordinaire, had a perfectly acceptable, realistic leftist reaction