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veedubfreak posted:Monitors don't have to match but resolution does. There is supposed to be some leeway but for the most part it only works at the same resolution on every monitor.
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Zero VGS posted:As long as you have a larger case like an ATX, you could get the MSI R9 390 Gaming, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127874 Have one, its good enough for my 2560x1600 needs. I'd recommend setting up a custom fan profile in Afterburner if you're not comfortable or used to having your GPU idle at 55-60C - I don't like it when fans shut off completely 
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Police Automaton posted:Thanks for the feedback and links. Also, even as much as I like Linux for everything that isn't games, I still boot into windows for games. Even with my nvidia card now steam games that are multi-platform pretty much always perform worse in Linux, sometimes even considerably (as long they have any kind of graphics complexity to them that is, with games that would even run fine on integrated graphics, of course it doesn't matter). Even worse are the random-rear end bugs you'll get in Linux with such games sometimes which the developer usually doesn't know how to fix because they didn't really made the engine. Even as longtime Linux user, I've got no interest in Linux gaming for those reasons. With driver situation I really only meant the barebones stuff, like multimonitor support, video acceleration.. that kind of thing. Nvidia certainly isn't perfect there either. There has been a driver problem recently with the Linux nvidia drivers where it doesn't know how to send screens off into standby properly that are connected via display port. The backlight is left on. Don't get a freesync monitor. If the technology isn't standard in everything in a few years it'll at the very least be cheaper and somewhat mature. You CAN run windows in a VM and pass through the GPU if you have a haswell (I think) or later processor but it's an incredibly hardware dependent, weird process that happens entirely through the command line, with the user discoverabiliity of actual buried treasure. Maybe someday someone will build a friendly looking installer that does it for you, or being as this is Linux complete 3/4s of a friendly installer which stumbles on for years before being put out of its misery. Just follow the ancient sage advice of mac os for most stuff, windows for gaming and linux if you're doing specialised CAD or computer science work or are a server or supersomputer. Linux on the desktop is still a 'technically working, barely' shithouse in my experience. Seamonster posted:Have one, its good enough for my 2560x1600 needs. I'd recommend setting up a custom fan profile in Afterburner if you're not comfortable or used to having your GPU idle at 55-60C - I don't like it when fans shut off completely amd cards are not only rated to run at 50ish, my 290X was DESIGNED to idle at 50ish. you're not really killing the card and are actually taking advantage of the extra money you spent on that cooler Generic Monk fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Dec 12, 2015 |
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Happy_Misanthrope posted:You could make this post 24/7 for the past 4 years on anything AMD Mostly marketing though. The 290 Vapor-X I sidegraded to from a 970 has been painless so far, while the 970 started with some annoying issues, had some annoying issues for a few weeks, had the standard problem with needing to manually tell it to clock properly if it's pushing a bunch of pixels, and handled my goofy monitor spread terribly if I tried surround. Plus, the new control panel is actually pretty non-terrible. All in all it'd have to get a hell of a lot worse for me to not miss AMD or stop giving my friend poo poo for buying a 960 2GB in the days where they were roughly 200 and 290s were dropping to 230.
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Seamonster posted:Have one, its good enough for my 2560x1600 needs. I'd recommend setting up a custom fan profile in Afterburner if you're not comfortable or used to having your GPU idle at 55-60C - I don't like it when fans shut off completely Why would you recommend that, when you're conveying in your smiley that you kinda know it's a dumb idea. 140 farenheit is not exactly a nuclear idling temp... it gets that hot inside a car in the summer. I mean, I think it'd be easier to just get used to it and as Depeche Mode would say, enjoy the silence. Generic Monk posted:Don't get a freesync monitor. If the technology isn't standard in everything in a few years it'll at the very least be cheaper and somewhat mature. But it's not any more expensive than a comparable monitor of the same specs  I mean, if you already have a monitor and don't want to be arsed to sell it and get a Freesync that makes sense, but if you already have an R9 radeon and are shopping for a new monitor, they are awesome. Unless you meant G-Sync I guess, in which case 
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Yeah, 50C isn't really that hot for stuff like this. There's lots of old electronics going through my hands which have ICs that happily worked at such temperatures and more for 30 years, regularily. Without any kind of direct cooling.Generic Monk posted:Just follow the ancient sage advice of mac os for most stuff, windows for gaming and linux if you're doing specialised CAD or computer science work or are a server or supersomputer. Linux on the desktop is still a 'technically working, barely' shithouse in my experience. Not to derail that into a linux vs. windows thread but after being a long time Linux user, I really enjoy the Linux software landscape as a desktop experience. Of course there's always room for improvement, lots of stuff in linuxland is ridiculously broken and nothing is perfect, but I think the whole thing is people wanting it to be an "works out of the box" free windows knock-off, which admittedly it is really bad at, and is also not really where the strength of most of it's worthwhile software lies. If you're willing to dig deep, learn and identify the more useful stuff you get a whole bunch of nice lean software that does everything you want *exactly* the way you want it, with scripts and configuration files you won't need to touch in five years. Something that seems to become less and less true with every windows release. Of course I'm also a dinosaur which still uses emacs for everything in 2015 so take my perspective into account. YMMV. As long as the VM software is up for passthrough now, that's really all I needed to hear, it was kinda shaky the last time I spent time with it. Any IOMMU capable hardware should be able to pull it off, so certainly not only Haswell. Finding the right hardware shouldn't be too difficult with copious googling, I could imagine there are enough mainboards around broken enough that this doesn't work.
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Police Automaton posted:Yeah, 50C isn't really that hot for stuff like this. There's lots of old electronics going through my hands which have ICs that happily worked at such temperatures and more for 30 years, regularily. Without any kind of direct cooling. I'd kill for up to date windows window management over a proper nix shell and file structure for work. It's a crying shame windows didnt get built on it.
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Police Automaton posted:Yeah, 50C isn't really that hot for stuff like this. There's lots of old electronics going through my hands which have ICs that happily worked at such temperatures and more for 30 years, regularily. Without any kind of direct cooling. TBF I tried fedora... 22? recently and it was remarkably slick - people hate on gnome but it's really come on leaps and bounds in providing an experience that feels like it belongs in the 21st century. I can't help but loathe poo poo like Ubuntu and Mint though. yeah, I'm probably being too hard on it. it's absolutey fine for 90% of the poo poo you do day to day on a pc and even the sound more or less works at this point. anything graphics related is still a huge clusterfruitcake imo tho
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Got my 750ti yesterday and installed it on the TV PC, decided to add some duct tape  to seal some airflow through the heatsink:  (More duct tape on the bottom end of the blower was added since the pictures were taken) It still eventually got to the "event horizon" of >85c within 30 minutes of benchmark programs, so I underclocked it. That actually made the temperature increase faster for some reason, so instead I left the clocks at stock and decided to reduce the power limit to 80% and the temperature limit to 75c. That actually worked, since the card throttles itself down enough to be sustainable at 78c for a couple hours of benchmarks. With an 4670T, at 1080p at medium settings, it runs Fallout 4 at a minimum 40fps. Pretty good. I should actually buy a wireless keyboard and mouse so I can actually play it on the large TV. Next up: trying to find working settings for Fallout 4 on an Athlon 5350+HD 7750 combo 
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Dec 12, 2015 19:47
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Where is the fan on that thing. Because your pictures make it look like you covered the fan up with duct tape to see how hot you could get it.
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SlayVus posted:Where is the fan on that thing. Because your pictures make it look like you covered the fan up with duct tape to see how hot you could get it. http://www.amazon.com/Antec-Cyclone-Blower-Expansion-Cooling/dp/B000051299 It didn't cool the card for poo poo without the duct tape; I also removed the low-profile card rear plate so there is a floating DVI-D port and HDMI port on the back
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Lol why does that not have a fan? You should just duct tape a case fan to it
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I took it off because it won't fit, the fan extrudes out enough to take up a second slot. http://www.in-win.com.tw/Corporate/en/goods.php?act=view&id=BP655 (check out the loving room for a video card on that thing, w@w) I could transpose a GT 740 fan onto it, but I'm not sure where you can find that sort of thing by itself.
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:I could transpose a GT 740 fan onto it, but I'm not sure where you can find that sort of thing by itself.
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Dec 12, 2015 21:12
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Try blocking the top part of the blower you left open. The air is mostly going to escape through there because it's the easiest path. It'll only move through the dense fins when it's the easiest option.
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DrDork posted:$12 on ebay (of course). Guess I'll just wait for one of those to show up on B-Stock for $50 craig588 posted:Try blocking the top part of the blower you left open. The air is mostly going to escape through there because it's the easiest path. It'll only move through the dense fins when it's the easiest option. 
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Dec 12, 2015 22:43
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Get a hammer and a nail and hammer slots in the shape you need over the cooler and a hacksaw blade to cut out the square and reattach the fan
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Dec 12, 2015 23:41
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Drill holes through the GPU pcb and use zip this to hold the fan in place. (Don't do this) You could just use long zip tied to strap a fan to the heatsink.
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AS, what are the dimensions of the heatsink itself? May sound odd, but a stock socket 478 fan & shroud may work as I had one fit a passive 5450 well.
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pretty similar to this but a little longer http://www.amazon.com/NVIDIA-GeForce-PCI-Express-Profile-ZT-71003-10L/dp/B00KO0IENG i'm personally worried if the backplate is different but apparently that shouldn't be the case for nvidia cards? also worried about crunching the chip if i decide to switch out the heatsink but we'll fall off that cliff when we get there 
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:pretty similar to this but a little longer Yeah, a stock HSF for s478 will fit over it nicely, might even snap into place if the dimensions are close enough. Just to be sure, it's a 750ti passive? Because you've got screw holes on the side which looks like someone just removed the fan, in which case yeah a 730/740/750 fan should work as long as it fits a similar model heatsink. Also, if you have a slot left, there is always this
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there is no second slot space, i'd have to replace it with a single slot HSF and i'm worried whether it will have differently positioned screw holes to fasten the HSF into the backplate the back positions on these two look similar at least: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA24G2U47126 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127836 Anime Schoolgirl fucked around with this message at 03:21 on Dec 13, 2015 |
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Allen_Aldo posted:two questions, if you kind folks would indulge me: 1. I am looking to get a 980 ti, any suggestions/tips on which one to get. The other is that my motherboard has 1 temperature, I think it must be a socket reading, that gets as high as 80c, is that a problem? It's an Alienware r4 because I have made terrible deicions/was delusional in the past. I think the motherboard is a 7JNH0. I just did the 980 ti shopping and I settled on the Asus strix non overclocked version. From the comparisons I read, it looked like the Asus cards overclocked just a little better than the rest, though the gigabyte cards could go farther over the voltage limitations without a bios mod. The factory overclocked card would work too, it's just more expensive and asus doesn't do binning so it wasn't a value for me. For your temperature question, 80c under load is getting high for cpu temp, but it's not at a danger point quiet yet. I'd use a better software monitor like hwmonitor and see if that's a core temp or something else.
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I am doing a system rebuild but was going to keep my old gfx card for a bit longer, a GTX 670. Since my build is coming in at much cheaper than I expected I am curious about upgrade options for it now. How large of a performance gain would a 250-300$ card get me? Is there a new batch coming out in the first half of 2016 that would be worth waiting for instead? E: That looks like an awkward spot for cards. I guess is it a meaningful upgrade to go from a 670 to a 960? Or would it be better to just hold off? ChiTownEddie fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Dec 14, 2015 |
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What's the rest of the build you're upgrading from? If it's an Intel Sandy Bridge+ you can probably skip on upgrading the CPU + mobo.
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ChiTownEddie posted:I am doing a system rebuild but was going to keep my old gfx card for a bit longer, a GTX 670. That should get you a 290, 290X, 390, or B-stock 970, all of which would be a pretty serious upgrade.
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ChiTownEddie posted:I am doing a system rebuild but was going to keep my old gfx card for a bit longer, a GTX 670. Everyone's opinions will vary, but I just went from a 570 to a cheap 770 with the intent of holding of for Nvidia's Pascal line coming sometime mid 2016. The Pacal line is being driven as a major boost, though marketing speak can make lots of promises right now. If your 670 isn't giving you problems I sorta feel like we are in a better-than-normal position to wait vs other times in a release cycle. If you aren't happy with your 670, though, its probably not worth it to wait 6-12 months for the next generation card. I wanted the hardware-encoding capabilities for Steamlink and the 570 can't do that, otherwise I would have tried holding off. I'd probably not get a 960 though. See if your budget can stretch to a 970 or look AMD.
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mmkay posted:What's the rest of the build you're upgrading from? If it's an Intel Sandy Bridge+ you can probably skip on upgrading the CPU + mobo. Original i5-750 to a i5-6500 is the plan. Twerk from Home posted:That should get you a 290, 290X, 390, or B-stock 970, all of which would be a pretty serious upgrade. Okay, so that step up is a big one? Cool, I'll do some more research and start watching prices. E: Lockback posted:Everyone's opinions will vary, but I just went from a 570 to a cheap 770 with the intent of holding of for Nvidia's Pascal line coming sometime mid 2016. The Pacal line is being driven as a major boost, though marketing speak can make lots of promises right now. Okay, so 970+ or wait. Thanks. I am pretty happy with my 670 right now, I guess I can finish the build and see if games aren't quite where I want them to be.
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ChiTownEddie posted:I am doing a system rebuild but was going to keep my old gfx card for a bit longer, a GTX 670. I'd hold on to the 670 if you are happy with its performance and save up. Nvidia's Pascal GPUs are coming out some time next year, probably some time between spring and fall and since they are moving to a smaller process size I expect that these new GPUs will be quite a step up from the current ones. It would be a shame to spend ~$300 now on a card that will be outclassed in less than a year when you don't really feel like you need the upgrade.
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I bought a new 144 hz monitor and now my 980Ti is running at 925 Mhz gpu clock and 7012 memory clock constantly. I've reinstalled drivers but it doesn't fix the problem. Anyone have a solution for this?
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madjdmyo posted:I bought a new 144 hz monitor and now my 980Ti is running at 925 Mhz gpu clock and 7012 memory clock constantly. I've reinstalled drivers but it doesn't fix the problem. Anyone have a solution for this? Known problem. Nvidia is working on a fix.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:I'd hold on to the X70 if you are happy with its performance and save up. Nvidia's XXXXXXX GPUs are coming out some time next year, probably some time between spring and fall and since they are moving to a smaller process size I expect that these new GPUs will be quite a step up from the current ones. It would be a shame to spend ~$300 now on a card that will be outclassed in less than a year when you don't really feel like you need the upgrade. Edited for correction.
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SlayVus posted:Edited for correction. While true I'd say the timing is close enough to warrant it. Pascal is less than a year away unless there are unforseen problems, so I don't see an issue cautioning against buying into 28nm products unless it's needed now. Pascal and Arctic are promising x2 perf/watt, which means something like a 290X will be an entry midrange card while the 970 does have it's memory limitation that it's successor either at it's tiering or in performance will not have.
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FaustianQ posted:While true I'd say the timing is close enough to warrant it. Pascal is less than a year away unless there are unforseen problems, so I don't see an issue cautioning against buying into 28nm products unless it's needed now. Pascal and Arctic are promising x2 perf/watt, which means something like a 290X will be an entry midrange card while the 970 does have it's memory limitation that it's successor either at it's tiering or in performance will not have. If they actually pull off x2 perf/watt, that means the 970 gets to be the new bus-powered 750ti, and the 980ti would run quiet in an ITX-length form factor. Hot diggity, can't wait to see if it's actually accomplished. Edit: Also, while people might caution against dumping a ton of money into a brand new card right now, you'd do well to check eBay right after Xmas. The following week will be jam-packed with still-warrantied MSI/Asus/Gigabyte custom cooler 290X and similar as people spend gift cards or whatever on 980tis. Zero VGS fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Dec 15, 2015 |
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madjdmyo posted:I bought a new 144 hz monitor and now my 980Ti is running at 925 Mhz gpu clock and 7012 memory clock constantly. I've reinstalled drivers but it doesn't fix the problem. Anyone have a solution for this? NVidia Inspector has something for it where you can set your clocks when utilization is below a certain level.
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Zero VGS posted:If they actually pull off x2 perf/watt, that means the 970 gets to be the new bus-powered 750ti, and the 980ti would run quiet in an ITX-length form factor. Hot diggity, can't wait to see if it's actually accomplished. on the potential bus powered card front, there's a 24/32 tonga (found in macbooks) and 960 to look forward to i just hope any of those loving solutions have a single slot cooler 
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FaustianQ posted:While true I'd say the timing is close enough to warrant it.
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DrDork posted:If you're the type of person still running a 670 3 years later, you're probably the type of person who would be just dandy with a 9XX card now, next year, and maybe the year after that depending on what he gets, rather than suffering along for probably another 9+ months just to get the "better" upgrade. But he said he was satisfied with his 670 and was only thinking about upgrading because the upgrades to the rest of his PC came in under budget. He would not be "suffering along" as you put it, I mean, look at his post: ChiTownEddie posted:Okay, so 970+ or wait. Thanks. I am pretty happy with my 670 right now, I guess I can finish the build and see if games aren't quite where I want them to be.
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Zero VGS posted:If they actually pull off x2 perf/watt, that means the 970 gets to be the new bus-powered 750ti, and the 980ti would run quiet in an ITX-length form factor. Hot diggity, can't wait to see if it's actually accomplished. That's assuming they die shrink those chips at all. If they do manage to launch the 14/16nm parts, hit those targets and die shrink all the high-midrange and high end chips, it would be an impressive feat for just a single year's roadmap considering the 28nm malaise and rebrands we've been slogging through. Then there's stuff like the 14/16nm mobile parts and/or (the less likely) HBM on mobile as well.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:But he said he was satisfied with his 670 and was only thinking about upgrading because the upgrades to the rest of his PC came in under budget. He would not be "suffering along" as you put it, I mean, look at his post:
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