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I mean I guess you could synthesise useful hazmat gear out of whatever their bodies are made of given they resist acid so well, and the face hugger can synthesise oxygen somehow so that's useful. There's all kinds of useful poo poo you could extrapolate from their biology but oops everyone's dead because uh life uh uh finds a way.
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The acid blood alone would probably be of interested to the weapons division. It would be an effective weapon and also method for removing obstacles or things you didn't want found.
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Dec 14, 2015 14:46
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Light Gun Man posted:The acid blood alone would probably be of interested to the weapons division. It would be an effective weapon and also method for removing obstacles or things you didn't want found. Much like regular acid.
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Dec 14, 2015 14:51
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WeAreTheRomans posted:Much like regular acid. Are there existing acids that work that fast, on that many materials, and have an obvious bright color?
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Dec 14, 2015 15:00
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My Lovely Horse posted:A weapon of mass destruction you ultimately can't control, that can't be a metaphor for anything Get a face hugger, infect someone, catch the chest burster (as they're small enough to not be a threat) and plant a small bomb in its skull. Then drop it on a planet, let it kill everyone, and then detonate the bomb. For bigger planets, release a horde of face huggers that have a genetically engineered lysine deficiency.
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Dec 14, 2015 15:06
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Light Gun Man posted:Are there existing acids that work that fast, on that many materials, and have an obvious bright color? Nitric acid works on most metals, and Piranha Solution works on organic material. Not sure why a bright colour is an advantage but there's more than a few acid-stable dyes.
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WeAreTheRomans posted:Nitric acid works on most metals, and Piranha Solution works on organic material. Not sure why a bright colour is an advantage but there's more than a few acid-stable dyes. Which reminds me - the droopy melty effect of alien blood is east to replicate at home. Just get some polystyrene trays, the kind burgers used to come in, and pour some acetone in. It probably gives off something toxic, so open a window.
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Dec 14, 2015 15:31
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Light Gun Man posted:Are there existing acids that work that fast, on that many materials, and have an obvious bright color? Any movie acid ever. Also, I always found the conspiracy angle in Alien kind of counterproductive. The entire situation being engineered actually made it less frightening, since it took away the random nature of the horror. I understand how it helps and improves the overall story and theme, bit for the horror, I found it detrimental. e X has a new favorite as of 17:42 on Dec 14, 2015 |
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Dec 14, 2015 15:56
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Strom Cuzewon posted:Which reminds me - the droopy melty effect of alien blood is east to replicate at home. Just get some polystyrene trays, the kind burgers used to come in, and pour some acetone in. In high school we used that to freak people out. Get them to hold the chunk of polystyrene and then spray some of the acetone on it, and it like whoa, then spray some on their hand or arm, the acetone evaporates really fast so it feels weird they think it's eating their arm....
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Dec 14, 2015 16:36
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Strom Cuzewon posted:Get a face hugger, infect someone, catch the chest burster (as they're small enough to not be a threat) and plant a small bomb in its skull. Then drop it on a planet, let it kill everyone, and then detonate the bomb. Except a single alien won't be able to murder everyone in the world. gently caress, it didn't manage to murder a ship full of truckers. That's even if you ignore the eggmorphing stuff from the directors cut. It's loving hilarious how many different ways the various corporations decide they're going to somehow use the aliens in the comics and everyone just gets eaten and face hugged.
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Dec 14, 2015 17:24
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e X posted:Any movie acid ever. Agreed. It should feel like things are coming off the rails, not like they're carefully controlled rails that are intentionally leading you into a crash test situation. Strom Cuzewon posted:Get a face hugger, infect someone, catch the chest burster (as they're small enough to not be a threat) and plant a small bomb in its skull. Then drop it on a planet, let it kill everyone, and then detonate the bomb. If you have a bomb which can wipe out a whole planet, why bother with the xenomorphs? If you have a bomb which can only take out a single alien, you run the risk of another queen. Zaphod42 has a new favorite as of 19:45 on Dec 14, 2015 |
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Light Gun Man posted:Are there existing acids that work that fast, on that many materials, and have an obvious bright color? No. But in the Aliens universe, there is, because they comment went they cut into the facehugger and its blood melts through multiple decks of the ship: "I haven't seen anything like that except, uh, molecular acid." So an acid like that already exists.
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Dec 14, 2015 20:03
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GazChap posted:" Look, those two specimens are worth millions to the bio-weapons division, right? Now, if you're smart, we can both come out of it as heroes, and we will be set up for life."
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Dec 14, 2015 20:13
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Phanatic posted:No. But in the Aliens universe, there is, because they comment went they cut into the facehugger and its blood melts through multiple decks of the ship: "I haven't seen anything like that except, uh, molecular acid." So an acid like that already exists. Molecular acid is some extreme poo poo
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Dec 14, 2015 20:17
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Speaking dumb plans to genetically engineer monsters as military weapons, there's Jurassic World which had to keep coming up with contrived reasons why the men with guns couldn't just shoot the super dinosaur.
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Dec 14, 2015 20:33
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I always thought it was odd that they'd send a giant space navy vessel like the Sulaco to make *holds pinky to mouth* millions of dollars. Likewise at Ripley's debriefing when the lady accuses her of detonating the engines of and thereby destroying a spacecraft worth *something something less than the cost of a B2 bomber* Seriously screwed up numbers for a gigantic mining vessel like that.
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Dec 14, 2015 22:51
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syscall girl posted:I always thought it was odd that they'd send a giant space navy vessel like the Sulaco to make *holds pinky to mouth* millions of dollars. Giant space navy vessel with roughly 15 people on board as well.
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Dec 14, 2015 23:00
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syscall girl posted:Likewise at Ripley's debriefing when the lady accuses her of detonating the engines of and thereby destroying a spacecraft worth *something something less than the cost of a B2 bomber* Adjusted dollars. There's no indication whatsoever how much that is worth in present-day terms.
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Dec 14, 2015 23:06
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Vulpes posted:Adjusted dollars. There's no indication whatsoever how much that is worth in present-day terms. Often in movies whenever a character is offered a large sum of money for whatever reason, it's written down on a piece of paper and handed over rather than actuall saying it like an actual human. I always figured the reason was partly the fact that money changes value over time, also the fact that what constitutes a lot of money varies from person to person.
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I'd say it's more of a psychological thing; if you're negotiating with someone, especially someone not used to big money, and offer 3.5 million, they'll focus on the friendly "3.5" and shoot for a difference of maybe 1 or 1.5 million in their favor. Written down as 3,500,000.00 they're much more intimidated by the number and will probably only counter by a couple hundred grand, if even that much
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syscall girl posted:I always thought it was odd that they'd send a giant space navy vessel like the Sulaco to make *holds pinky to mouth* millions of dollars. They're Canadian dollars, and also in the futre Canada has had some pretty extreme deflation.
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The Mystery Men talk earlier made me go back to try to watch it. I couldn't make it all the way through. What was it with the mid-to-late nineties that made directors think dutch angles and fisheye were good artistic decisions?
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WeAreTheRomans posted:Nitric acid works on most metals, and Piranha Solution works on organic material. Not sure why a bright colour is an advantage but there's more than a few acid-stable dyes. Mostly just so you can see where it is easily, as to not end up touching it yourself while using it. Phanatic posted:No. But in the Aliens universe, there is, because they comment went they cut into the facehugger and its blood melts through multiple decks of the ship: "I haven't seen anything like that except, uh, molecular acid." So an acid like that already exists. Oh, well then. gently caress my idea  I was just enjoying the mental image of alien blood being used in place of C4 to blow a door or something.
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Phanatic posted:No. But in the Aliens universe, there is, because they comment went they cut into the facehugger and its blood melts through multiple decks of the ship: "I haven't seen anything like that except, uh, molecular acid." So an acid like that already exists. If you want to be irritated about anything in the Alien universe, be irritated about that. All acids are molecular.
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Fil5000 posted:Giant space navy vessel with roughly 15 people on board as well. This isn't terribly far-fetched though. Think about the size of the Saturn 5 rocket that only had three crew. Put engines and fuel tanks in it big enough to take it across the galaxy, and then think about all the firepower they probably have, and it doesn't leave much room. Oh yeah, the ship had a huge pressurised cargo hold and massive hangars etc with tons of redundant space for the dropships. Ok resume irritation.
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syscall girl posted:I always thought it was odd that they'd send a giant space navy vessel like the Sulaco to make *holds pinky to mouth* millions of dollars. Ended up watching part of the original Day of the Jackal last week. After a tense conversation about how difficult it will be to assassinate the President of France, they get down to the crunch.... "I'll do it - for half a million!" "Francs?" "No, dollars!" - gasps all around - Not sure exactly what the exchange rate was back then, but about 100k to take control of France sounds like a good deal!
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Danger Mahoney posted:The Mystery Men talk earlier made me go back to try to watch it. I couldn't make it all the way through. What was it with the mid-to-late nineties that made directors think dutch angles and fisheye were good artistic decisions? That director had a background in directing commercials. Yo quiero Taco Bell.
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Danger Mahoney posted:The Mystery Men talk earlier made me go back to try to watch it. I couldn't make it all the way through. What was it with the mid-to-late nineties that made directors think dutch angles and fisheye were good artistic decisions? Agreed. That movie has some horrid art direction. Real talk though, if you want a pretty funny (and VERY nineties) superhero comedy, then The Specials is what's up. It's not very good, but it has its moments. Plus Rob Lowe, Jamie Kennedy, and Thomas Haden Church. And anytime I see mention of a fisheye lens I think of this Home Movies episode where Brenden's only justification for wanting one is because "You put it on your camera and you make images look WEIRD." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKWc_PKDP-8
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Zaphod42 posted:If you have a bomb which can wipe out a whole planet, why bother with the xenomorphs? Plausible deniability. "Oh the hippie planet doesn't want to pay taxes? I hope they enjoy the slow nightmare of an earth hive." Then afterwards: "Well that planets a mess now, i guess we have to blow the fucker up." Fragmented has a new favorite as of 03:51 on Dec 15, 2015 |
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Vulpes posted:Adjusted dollars. There's no indication whatsoever how much that is worth in present-day terms. The Aliens universe is also the Street Fighter Movie Universe, but one where Bison won. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Shxiy7l5b_4
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Kramdar posted:That director had a background in directing commercials. Yo quiero Taco Bell.
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Pseudohog posted:Ended up watching part of the original Day of the Jackal last week. After a tense conversation about how difficult it will be to assassinate the President of France, they get down to the crunch.... It's about a fifth of today's purchasing power.
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Mystery Men... when Smash Mouth starts playing I shoot myself.
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Fil5000 posted:Giant space navy vessel with roughly 15 people on board as well. Giant bulk container ships only have a crew of about 13 or so. I thought the Sulaco was basically a space u-haul towing mined material back to Earth.
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I think there just needs to be a supercut of that movie to just be all of Raul Julia's scenes and nothing else.
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MariusLecter posted:Mystery Men... when Smash Mouth starts playing I shoot myself. Felt like that song was in every single movie that year except office space. And then a few years late to the bandwagon rat race ruins a completely fine movie with a smash mouth cameo to play the song they play.
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Dec 15, 2015 20:34
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My IMM is that I like Mystery Men but nobody else does.
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nexus6 posted:Giant bulk container ships only have a crew of about 13 or so. I thought the Sulaco was basically a space u-haul towing mined material back to Earth. The Nostromo was just hauling poo poo. Remember they were bitching about their cut of the profits?
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Memento posted:Oh yeah, the ship had a huge pressurised cargo hold and massive hangars etc with tons of redundant space for the dropships. Ok resume irritation. Maybe they had tanks and things. Or needed space for carrying poo poo back from the places they went to.
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Depressio111117 posted:My IMM is that I like Mystery Men but nobody else does. Occasionally I remember it has Tom Waits in it and I'm like 
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