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Wheat Loaf posted:Is that the same as the one Wikipedia lists as Ike & Tina Turner and the Raelettes from 1966? Mine doesn't seem to have a date anywhere on the sleeve, but yeah, they're the same. 1966 on the Tangerine lable.
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force the hand of chance, dreams less sweet and allegory and self are my favorites. The last is probably the most "pop" of the three though plenty of experimental noisey parts. all great in their own way. if you want to get into their live stuff (which makes their discography daunting) someone else might need to help you. havent gotten into the 90s- material either.
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Blue, Pinkerton, and EWBAITE are the only Weezer albums I need to check out, right?
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Green is worth a shot if you really dig what you hear.
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Seconding Green after Blue and Pinkerton. Blue and Pink are basically untouchable, but Green is fun for two related reasons - When Pinkerton flopped commercially and the band went quiet for a bit, Rivers Cuomo basically came back and went "Well, I wrote an album all about the crazy poo poo in my head, and you thought it was poo poo. NOW YOU GET A RECORD OF LITERALLY NO SUBSTANCE." And so Green is 28 and a half minutes of super-hooky power-pop. It's great and it's trolly as gently caress. e: Dope Nose was a great single, but that's as far as my Weezer fandom goes past Green.
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Yeah, after Blue/Pinkerton/Green there wasn't really anything left of Weezer that I enjoyed. I tried but nope. It still blows my mind that people hated Pinkerton so much. It was one of my favorite albums of the 90s.
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Also, this is one I'm pretty sketchy about, but I did like one song (FCP Remix) ...where would one start with The Fall of Troy? e: also heard the original version of that song, FCPSITSGEPGEP, still good but not as good as the remix I think. Granted, it doesn't sound so much like a remix, more like a remake. e2: lmao... does that really stand for "gently caress condoms, premarital sex is the poo poo, get 'er pregnant get 'er pregnant" ? Fenrir fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Oct 24, 2015 |
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Fenrir posted:Yeah, after Blue/Pinkerton/Green there wasn't really anything left of Weezer that I enjoyed. I tried but nope. The Man Pain gets to be a bit much by the end, but since it's basically journal entries set to music, it's understandable. The first Rentals album ("Return of...") is the real follow-up to the Blue Album, incidentally.
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After The War posted:
Also "Rock and Roll Part Three" by Ozma is pretty much the lost 3rd good Weezer album
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Fenrir posted:Also, this is one I'm pretty sketchy about, but I did like one song (FCP Remix) ...where would one start with The Fall of Troy? Doppelganger. After that, the s/t, though the best songs on it were rerecorded for Doppelganger
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Henchman of Santa posted:Doppelganger. After that, the s/t, though the best songs on it were rerecorded for Doppelganger Thanks, will try those.
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Thanks for the Weezer recommendations guys. I gave Blue, Pinkerton, Green, and EWBAITE a listen and honestly I like EWBAITE the most out of all of them. Blue and Pinkerton are easily their best works, but I like the diversity of EWBAITE and it was the most fun to listen to from beginning to end even if the overall song quality is lower than their first albums. EWBAITE is worth recommending to anyone trying to get into Weezer.
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After All Hail West Texas, which are the best boombox-era Mountain Goats records?
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firstyear posted:After All Hail West Texas, which are the best boombox-era Mountain Goats records? If you mean prior-to...then Sweden.
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Also Nothing For Juice and Nine Black Poppies.
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At this rate, we could list almost all of them, my suggestion would be The Coroner's Gambit.
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the correct Answer is Full Force Galesburg, trust on this. Followed by the coroner's gambit, then sweden, then nine black poppies, then zopilote machine, then nothing for juice. The tape releases are good too. Also the EPs like Isopopinasid Radio Hour.
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Anyone have any suggestions on where to start with Flying Lotus? I heard something by him recently and think that I can get into him.
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He switches gears a lot. You're Dead has some real tits soul vibes going, while Cosmogramma has a weird alien sci-fi feel.
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screenwritersblues posted:Anyone have any suggestions on where to start with Flying Lotus? I heard something by him recently and think that I can get into him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAzCJINGWGM
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I'm sure these have been asked before but I skimmed around/screwed with search and didn't find what I was looking for, so... Where do I start with: Current 93 Coil Sun City Girls
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Oliver Reed posted:I'm sure these have been asked before but I skimmed around/screwed with search and didn't find what I was looking for, so... With C93 it depends on what you want to hear. His early material is industrial soundscape stuff, it's cool but probably not a good place to start unless you're already into 80s industrial. In the late 80s he shifts to folk with acoustic guitars, this is the period he's best known for I guess. The 'best' record from this period is probably Thunder Perfect Mind, although it is quite long, Of Ruin or Some Blazing Starre might be a better place to start, the Inmost Light trilogy might also work, they're all pretty good. His recent work has been more varied in sound, but Sleep Has His House and Black Ships Ate the Sky are both great. There's a sideproject called Myrninerest that is also very good. Part of the fun of his discography is exploring around and seeing what you like. Coil explored a lot of different sounds and there's probably something for almost everyone in their discography, but you may not like everything they did, so where to start depends on what you like. For the early material Horse Rotorvator is a good one. If you're a dance music guy then Love's Secret domain might be cool, if you like drone then Time Machines is essential, and their last album The Ape of Naples is excellent and more song oriented than a lot of mid period albums if you're coming from a rock background. Torch of the Mystics is probably the best SCG album to start with just because it's the most musical and also one of their best. Their last album Funeral Mariachi is also pretty accessible, and if you think you really like them you could try 330,003 Crossdressers.
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I am certain that this has been asked before, but the subject is overwhelming to me. But where do I start with modern jazz? Went to some clubs that presented themselves as "modern jazz" when in Moscow and really enjoyed it, but I've been having problems finding something similar in the States.
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Citizen Rat posted:I am certain that this has been asked before, but the subject is overwhelming to me. But where do I start with modern jazz? Went to some clubs that presented themselves as "modern jazz" when in Moscow and really enjoyed it, but I've been having problems finding something similar in the States. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtQRBzSN9Vw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NFS8WXfCI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DM9fGXHhlk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIRAXOB68vE Aside from that, I'm not really sure and I'd like more suggestions myself. But this thing is 3 discs, so it should hold you over at least for a little while. Trombone Shorty's got some good stuff too. I don't know if he counts as modern jazz though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBgMGuEf87Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzByl_lUOXQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gp-4UllQok Rageaholic fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Dec 15, 2015 |
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:
Thank you so much! I have absolutely no idea where to start and looking up information on jazz is just too much information for me to process. It also seems like people have a lot of very strong opinions on the subject and I have no way to sort noise from signal.
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Citizen Rat posted:I am certain that this has been asked before, but the subject is overwhelming to me. But where do I start with modern jazz? Went to some clubs that presented themselves as "modern jazz" when in Moscow and really enjoyed it, but I've been having problems finding something similar in the States. The biggest push I had with jazz was the 100 Best of Blue Note collection. It's 100 songs of different types of Jazz, concentrating on the greats, and is wonderfully balanced with Classic and Modern. You can find the list with a quick Google search. AllMusic is has some helpful lists, and Spotify has curated Jazz playlists that are great and concentrate on any sub-genre you can think of. The trick is to just dive in and listen. I like compilations because I will always find at least one piece that really hits home with me.
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Citizen Rat posted:I am certain that this has been asked before, but the subject is overwhelming to me. But where do I start with modern jazz? Went to some clubs that presented themselves as "modern jazz" when in Moscow and really enjoyed it, but I've been having problems finding something similar in the States. Stock recommendations for post-bop, which is what the orthodoxy is usually talking about when it refers to itself as "modern jazz", are Miles Davis's albums between ESP and Nefertiti/Sorcerer, Coltrane's albums between Giant Steps and A Love Supreme, and Bill Evans' albums up until 1964 or so. Then branch out into other sessions that the dudes from those albums played on and continue following connections from there. If that's not the aesthetic you heard and liked, you might be talking about free jazz, old jazz/rock fusion of the mostly good kind, slightly later cheesy R&B/jazz fusion (mid-70s to 80s stuff), or more recent fusion like the super cornball M-Base type stuff, but no way of knowing without more detailed examples. funkcroquet fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Dec 15, 2015 |
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funkcroquet posted:Stock recommendations for post-bop, which is what the orthodoxy is usually talking about when it refers to itself as "modern jazz", are Miles Davis's albums between ESP and Nefertiti/Sorcerer, Coltrane's albums between Giant Steps and A Love Supreme, and Bill Evans' albums up until 1964 or so. I was listening to songwriter called Maria Chaikovskaya (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qQZH-LrSLA) who was billed as a jazz singer. Looking through some of the spotify playlists (thank you Franchescanado for the suggestion!) I think she might be considered a type of fusion?
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In the recommendation thread a couple of weeks back, I mentioned that I'm into 2 Tone and mod revival stuff and asked if anyone had any recommendations for American power pop type stuff from the same period, but there haven't been any replies in the meantime.  So, I'd be keen to ask if anyone has any ideas about where I should start with that. I'm only really familiar with the Pretenders' first album. Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Dec 28, 2015 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:In the recommendation thread a couple of weeks back, I mentioned that I'm into 2 Tone and mod revival stuff and asked if anyone had any recommendations for American power pop type stuff from the same period, but there haven't been any replies in the meantime. Have you tried Big Star? Nick Lowe is another one to try.
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Wheat Loaf posted:In the recommendation thread a couple of weeks back, I mentioned that I'm into 2 Tone and mod revival stuff and asked if anyone had any recommendations for American power pop type stuff from the same period, but there haven't been any replies in the meantime. Brett's Power Pop Primer Big Star - #1 Record / Radio City Nick Lowe - Jesus of Cool Todd Rundgren - Something/Anything? Cheap Trick - At Budokan Badfinger - Wish You Were Here Flamin' Groovies - Shake Some Action Marshall Crenshaw - Marshall Crenshaw Some of this goes a little later than that period, but these are basically all amazing albums.
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Blast Fantasto posted:Brett's Power Pop Primer The Cars' self-titled debut is also prime power pop, albeit from the late 70s (their later albums all skew increasingly toward new wave). Otherwise that list is excellent.
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Thanks, I'll try some of those out. Can I ask about the Knack? They seem like a storied bunch. A real "here today, gone tomorrow" group. How about the Paul Collins Beat? I'm a fan of the English Beat.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Thanks, I'll try some of those out. The Knack's first album is definitely pretty good with a lot of good hooks. Although, ironically enough, the digital version uses the censored tapes that removes a drug reference on the album (they sing a different lyric somewhere). I'm not sure about Paul Collins Beat, but the English Beat is pretty firmly a ska band, so they're not really comparable.
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Wheat Loaf posted:In the recommendation thread a couple of weeks back, I mentioned that I'm into 2 Tone and mod revival stuff and asked if anyone had any recommendations for American power pop type stuff from the same period, but there haven't been any replies in the meantime. Seconding Blast Fantasto on Cheap Trick. Their first album is incredible, very smart meta-pop with dark lyrics and great hooks. It's also the record freest of dated production cheese - with the exception of Cheap Trick at Budokan. The two-disc reissue is great, and lets you hear the first three albums in a straight-ahead rock setting. The reissues for those are decent as well, but I end up preferring the demo versions included as a bonus over the final product - like this fantastic, r-rolling early version of "Surrender" with the original lyrics. If deconstruction is something you're into, there's always Devo. Once you get past the "clever rear end in a top hat" schtick (worst on the first record), there's a very capable pop band working there. Duty Now For the Future in particular, gets overlooked in favor of the more well-known Devo, but they sound more like a band here, actually performing songs instead of a performance gimmick. Freedom of Choice is hit-laden and fun to listen to, but by this point they come across like savvy professionals making a record to be hit-laden and fun to listen to, rather than kids having fun taking everything apart. One of the things about powerpop here is how it got so entwined with the various regional punk movements, so it's a matter of how far down that road you want to go. The best unabashedly powerpop band to come out of this scene is the Fastbacks, whose dancy rhythms and occasional horns should click pretty easily with a 2 Tone fan. (man, I'd forgotten how great that last song was) Wheat Loaf posted:Can I ask about the Knack? They seem like a storied bunch. A real "here today, gone tomorrow" group. How about the Paul Collins Beat? I'm a fan of the English Beat. Whether deserved or not, the Knack were pretty reviled in certain circles for being a calculated, cleaned-up, cash-in version of the sound a lot of other bands had been working on for years (the "Knuke the Knack" campaign). As such, even though they were gazillion-sellers, they didn't have a fan base to fall back on when the general public moved on. Here's an article about it.
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Great stuff, thanks very much. I'm never sure about Cheap Trick because I have a little familiarity with them, but only their arena rock phase with "The Fire" and so on. I realise that's not an especially well-regarded part of their career. Thanks also for the Knack article, which I will enjoy reading.
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Yeah, thirding early Cheap Trick. If a dude can't groove on He's A Whore, that dude is missing out.
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There's a bootleg of Cheap Trick's second album In Color re-recorded with Steve Albini that's pretty good since Tom Werman butchered that album but the '77 self-titled and At Budokan are more than enough to get you started.
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How about Bauhaus? I've always liked songs like Third Uncle and Bela Lugosi's Dead but I never really know where to start with them.
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