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Two Finger posted:If you want something done right, you need someone who's a good kind Don't forget Gor 
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I just started this series. I'm on chapter 9 I think of my The Great Hunt audio book. They are crossing a river in pursuit of the Trollocs, Fade, and "something worse" that stole the horn. Everyone seems dead as hell because there's noone in this little village. Sounds pretty creepy guys I sure hope they do not camp in this town and the something worse eats Ingtar or Rand or whatever.
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Dec 14, 2015 01:40
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Dave_Indeed posted:I just started this series. I'm on chapter 9 I think of my The Great Hunt audio book. They are crossing a river in pursuit of the Trollocs, Fade, and "something worse" that stole the horn. Everyone seems dead as hell because there's noone in this little village. Sounds pretty creepy guys I sure hope they do not camp in this town and the something worse eats Ingtar or Rand or whatever. That village is really creepy, yeah. I distinctly remember the time-loop thingy being pretty disturbing. I'm a bit envious of people that are starting the series now that it's finished, who don't have to wait years for the next books.
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Dec 14, 2015 07:08
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Torrannor posted:That village is really creepy, yeah. I distinctly remember the time-loop thingy being pretty disturbing. But they don't get the crazy speculation and arguments about how the series will end.
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Dec 14, 2015 07:24
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fordan posted:But they don't get the crazy speculation and arguments about how the series will end. My favorite first read thing was being convinced Thom was dark friend for the first 1/3 of EOTW. He just knew too much and showed up too conveniently 
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Dec 14, 2015 07:33
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Torrannor posted:That village is really creepy, yeah. I distinctly remember the time-loop thingy being pretty disturbing. I dunno I don't think I will ever finish the series, book 7+ just get so tedious I went to read Malazan, sure it doesn't make sense, but cool poo poo happens there instead of hair braid tugging.
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Dec 14, 2015 09:41
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you're missing out (book 9 sucks tho)
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Dec 14, 2015 10:33
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Jack2142 posted:I dunno I don't think I will ever finish the series, book 7+ just get so tedious I went to read Malazan, sure it doesn't make sense, but cool poo poo happens there instead of hair braid tugging. It gets good again.
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Dec 14, 2015 11:42
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I believe you mean book 10, but that's not a problem because book 11 is right around the corner.
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Dec 14, 2015 11:46
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Book 10 was the one that killed the series for me. I started reading WOT right before Lord of Chaos was released, but book 10 came out when I was in college and I just couldn't finish it. I think that was the one with the 100 page prologue, right?
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Dec 14, 2015 12:40
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Dunbar posted:Book 10 was the one that killed the series for me. I started reading WOT right before Lord of Chaos was released, but book 10 came out when I was in college and I just couldn't finish it. I think that was the one with the 100 page prologue, right? Book 10 actually begins to resolve things, it's a shame that you couldn't finish it.
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Dec 14, 2015 13:59
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When books 8-11 came out I was often frustrated that things weren't happening. When I was re-reading them I noticed that it wasn't that they weren't happening, but I would be caring more about some plotlines than others and then had to wait years for progress. On a re-read I didn't have that problem so it was much more enjoyable. Knife of Dreams really turned up the speed, I imagine that Jordan could have finished in 14 as easily as Sanderson.
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Dec 14, 2015 14:05
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Atlas Hugged posted:I believe you mean book 10, but that's not a problem because book 11 is right around the corner. nah I meant book 9 and all its boring and whiny Perrin chapters conversely I really liked book 5 with all it's no-Perrin-at-all chapters
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Dec 14, 2015 18:26
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Torrannor posted:Book 10 actually begins to resolve things, it's a shame that you couldn't finish it. Book 10 was (and is widely panned as) the worst book in the series. Basically everyone sat around all book and decided to do something... next book.
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Dec 14, 2015 19:50
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Pash posted:Book 10 was (and is widely panned as) the worst book in the series. Basically everyone sat around all book and decided to do something... next book. It's Amazon Customer reviews are p. good: http://www.amazon.com/Crossroads-Tw...ads+at+twilight
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Dec 14, 2015 20:11
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Pash posted:Book 10 was (and is widely panned as) the worst book in the series. Basically everyone sat around all book and decided to do something... next book. Book 10 (Crossroads of Twilight) works, but only if you smush it together with Book 11 (Knife of Dreams) and can read them as essentially one really long book and don't have to wait 2 years.
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Dec 14, 2015 22:36
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The slog is books 8 through most of 10. After that, it owns.
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Dec 15, 2015 00:19
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If the whole Perrin and Faile thingdidn't happen there would be like three fewer books in the series. Or that space could have been filled with something actually interesting, like more PoV Forsaken chapters.
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Dec 15, 2015 04:38
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I wish my parents hadn't given all my Wheel of Time books to goodwill when I went to college 
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Dec 15, 2015 04:44
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Mad Hamish posted:If the whole Perrin and Faile thingdidn't happen there would be like three fewer books in the series. Or that space could have been filled with something actually interesting, like more PoV Forsaken chapters. Hey man that's not fair, Perrin was awesome (in the Two Rivers campaign).
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Dec 15, 2015 07:53
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Blind Melon posted:Hey man that's not fair, Perrin was awesome (in the Two Rivers campaign). Yeeeep. IMO The Shadow Rising is the best book in the series. But even then some of Perrin and Faile's interactions were grating and bad. It would have been awesome if Perrin spent the next book or two in the Two Rivers playing Lord of the Land. The glimpses of the transformation we get of Emond's Field from quiet little village to bustling town were pretty neat!
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Dec 15, 2015 09:42
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Arrath posted:Yeeeep. IMO The Shadow Rising is the best book in the series. But even then Fixed that for you.
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Dec 15, 2015 09:57
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Blind Melon posted:Hey man that's not fair, Perrin was awesome (in the Two Rivers campaign). They should have gone straight from saving two rivers to full on Tai'shan Manetheren, and then he and Mat and the Red Hand could have spent 5 books being total bros and actually fixing the world while Rand fucks around and goes insane.
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Dec 15, 2015 14:11
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Cartoon Man posted:The slog is books 8 through most of 10. After that, it owns. I honestly am still not entirely sure if Book 11 was good or if it was just so much better than the drivel that was book 10 that I thought it was amazing... but ya... It's all uphill from book 10.
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Dec 15, 2015 15:40
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Pash posted:I honestly am still not entirely sure if Book 11 was good or if it was just so much better than the drivel that was book 10 that I thought it was amazing... but ya... It's all uphill from book 10. I really liked 11. Book 10 was also okay if you just read Mat's parts. Because really, his story is the only important one.
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Dec 15, 2015 22:37
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What really bugs me is the "Oh okay we invented travelling again thats cool, but let me just plop you down five weeks from where you are going so we don't accidentally slice off someones arm or something." or the "Hey we found this thing that will fix the weather and make sure we don't all die and we just need some help from you.. wait you want to bargain for this? Okay lets just throw all reason into the wind and agree to a bunch of silly poo poo" or the "it hasn't rained for like half a year and the heat is extreme and somehow everything everywhere isn't dead already"
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Dec 15, 2015 23:10
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but mostly its the interactions between people. in fact i just decided to treat this as a sci fi movie. They are all aliens. Each and every one. This whole story takes place on an alien world filled with alien people and that is why nobody actually behaves in a human like fashion.
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Dec 15, 2015 23:13
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Affi posted:What really bugs me is the "Oh okay we invented travelling again thats cool, but let me just plop you down five weeks from where you are going so we don't accidentally slice off someones arm or something." WoT makes a lot more sense once you realize it is an anime script without the illustrations.
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Dec 16, 2015 00:51
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Affi posted:
gently caress the Seafolk, they're the biggest assholes in a series full of a lot of assholes.
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Dec 16, 2015 01:09
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The_Angry_Turtle posted:I wish my parents hadn't given all my Wheel of Time books to goodwill when I went to college What the what... why?!
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Dec 17, 2015 05:00
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Cartoon Man posted:gently caress the Seafolk, they're the biggest assholes in a series full of a lot of assholes. A thousand times, this.
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ShadowCatboy posted:What the what... why?! they have good taste
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Cartoon Man posted:gently caress the Seafolk, they're the biggest assholes in a series full of a lot of assholes. It's just poor writing. They aren't the "OMYGOD BEST TRADERS EVER!" if you just have people accept dumb poo poo they do and say. 1. Everything is dying. 2. This thing can save everyone. They say. Yeah you came to us so that means you need this (???) more then we so you have to give us something for it. What? I just came to your burning home with a fire extinguisher, but I need your help to operate it, and you want me to pay you for it? The most irritating thing about this is the solution would be so simple. The Athan'Miere want the bowl of the winds. Just give them that and call it even. Its way more then they should get anyway.
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Affi posted:It's just poor writing. They aren't the "OMYGOD BEST TRADERS EVER!" if you just have people accept dumb poo poo they do and say. They're just being rational actors, though. If you lose and the wheel is destroyed then nothing matters, so you should take "yep we won we saved the world" as fait accompli and negotiate up from there.
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Dec 17, 2015 16:46
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Affi posted:What? I just came to your burning home with a fire extinguisher, but I need your help to operate it, and you want me to pay you for it? No, it's nothing like this at all because, in this scenario you can just take your fire extinguisher back home and let my house burn down. In the book, the Seafolk know that they've got the world over a barrel, so they force concessions out of them because they know the other side has no choice and has to pay.
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Dec 17, 2015 17:45
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The Sea Folk are part of the world too though, they are equally over the same barrel.
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rchandra posted:The Sea Folk are part of the world too though, they are equally over the same barrel. It's worse than that, really, because the Sea Folk are trying to extort long term concessions in exchange for a one shot, immediate solution that they were going to provide anyway. If literally anyone else had acted remotely rationally, the day after the Bowl of Winds was used the Aes Sedai would have immediately responded with "Oops, turns out Angry Girl and Spoiled Brat, while never actually technically lying, weren't acting in their capacity as duly vested and appointed bargaining representatives of the White Tower at the time and our deal is now null and void. Thanks for fixing the weather, now gently caress off, you half-wit pirate hedge-witches."
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Dec 18, 2015 03:37
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:It's worse than that, really, because the Sea Folk are trying to extort long term concessions in exchange for a one shot, immediate solution that they were going to provide anyway. If literally anyone else had acted remotely rationally, the day after the Bowl of Winds was used the Aes Sedai would have immediately responded with "Oops, turns out Angry Girl and Spoiled Brat, while never actually technically lying, weren't acting in their capacity as duly vested and appointed bargaining representatives of the White Tower at the time and our deal is now null and void. Thanks for fixing the weather, now gently caress off, you half-wit pirate hedge-witches." The Aes Sedai were beginning to realize that the world was full of organized channelers that had gone unnoticed by them for centuries. The Knitting Circle, the Wise Ones, the Windfinders, etc. Combine that with the Black Tower and you the general "gently caress the Aes Sedai" mindset of a significant amount of the world and you get a fairly bad time for the White Tower to be throwing their weight around, especially over a set of concessions that were, IIRC, fairly minor in the long run and mostly damaging to their pride.
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Basically the only fun Aes Sedai to read about was Verin... so having them continue to do dumb things with the bowl of wind was hardly surprising... if still dumb...
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:It's worse than that, really, because the Sea Folk are trying to extort long term concessions in exchange for a one shot, immediate solution that they were going to provide anyway. If literally anyone else had acted remotely rationally, the day after the Bowl of Winds was used the Aes Sedai would have immediately responded with "Oops, turns out Angry Girl and Spoiled Brat, while never actually technically lying, weren't acting in their capacity as duly vested and appointed bargaining representatives of the White Tower at the time and our deal is now null and void. Thanks for fixing the weather, now gently caress off, you half-wit pirate hedge-witches." They can't do that without literally countermanding a command from the Amyrlin seat. It's the same reason Elayne is able to argue for Nynaeve and her's authority over the Aes Sedai. I think a 26 year old and an 18 year old bargaining with people who know they are the only people in the world who can provide the required service are probably going to get taken to town. Hell, even Merana (who is actually surprisingly competent) gets taken to town without Rand there to gently caress everyone up with his Ta'veren powers.
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