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Flavorful Rest in Peace reprint.
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TheKingofSprings posted:Which in a low power graveyard heavy format you probably don't mind much Low Power Graveyard Heavy is the name of my MTG themed japanese shoegaze band
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Dec 16, 2015 15:50
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Ramos posted:Flavorful Rest in Peace reprint. I doubt Rest in Peace would get reprinted on a plane where zombies are as common as humans.
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Dec 16, 2015 16:13
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mandatory lesbian posted:Yeah I can only see Jace becoming better once SOI comes out unless they do something dumb and make the set not graveyard focused I don't know, as mentioned fetches are great for flipping him early, and that certainly an advantage for him. His -2 might be of diminished value if SoI has Flashback (but obviously still of value as Snapcaster showed) Plus if it's taking until t5-6 to load the yard to the point of flipping him, that might be time you can't use flashback cards already in there, as well as time he could eat removal.
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Dec 16, 2015 16:20
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Count Bleck posted:I doubt Rest in Peace would get reprinted on a plane where zombies are as common as humans. It was originally in RTR, so I'd expect a reprint in RTRTR in the fall.
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Dec 16, 2015 16:35
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They had Ground Seal, Tormod's Crypt, Grafdigger's Cage, and Rest in Peace all in the same standard and Reanimator was still the best deck.
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Dec 16, 2015 16:41
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Lancelot posted:
Dig or Cruise and jace is in basically every blue deck but it turns out when the average cmc of your deck is 3 rather than 0.5 and you play creature cards monastery mentor is merely good rather than fantastic
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Dec 16, 2015 16:47
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GoutPatrol posted:They had Ground Seal, Tormod's Crypt, Grafdigger's Cage, and Rest in Peace all in the same standard and Reanimator was still the best deck. It helped Abrupt Decay told all of those to go gently caress themselves and that the deck was half ramp, half reanimator. What's the best way to get your Angel of Serenity in the graveyard? Cast it and make 'em remove it.
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Dec 16, 2015 17:07
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lol http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/why-leaks-hurt-2015-12-16
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Dec 16, 2015 17:14
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I would not guarantee a flashback return in Innistrad. They only have so much room for old mechanics and flashback wasn't a new one for Innistrad.
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Dec 16, 2015 17:16
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I liked the bullet point about leaks being bad because it keeps information from "less-enfranchised players" even though grand wizards have access to this info as long as they keep their mouth shut and only circulate it between a privilege few. 
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Dec 16, 2015 17:23
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Alaan posted:I would not guarantee a flashback return in Innistrad. They only have so much room for old mechanics and flashback wasn't a new one for Innistrad. They're gonna bring back dredge and flashback at the same time as a prelude to them unbanning dread return in modern
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Dec 16, 2015 17:24
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GoutPatrol posted:They had Ground Seal, Tormod's Crypt, Grafdigger's Cage, and Rest in Peace all in the same standard and Reanimator was still the best deck. Rest In Peace doesn't do poo poo when you just cast Pilgrim into Farseek into turn 3 Thragtusk.
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Dec 16, 2015 17:24
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mandatory lesbian posted:They're gonna bring back dredge and flashback at the same time as a prelude to them unbanning dread return in modern Please dont tease me
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Dec 16, 2015 17:25
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Is this the real reason we can't have mana leak anymore 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2N_uvnvGbI Granted, their handling of the  thing wasn't too great either.
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Dec 16, 2015 17:27
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what was the leak that happened in 2002?
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Dec 16, 2015 17:28
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quote:Leaks aren't journalism because there is no cover-up. There's no secret exposé about the working conditions of goblins on Ravnica, or the water quality on Zendikar, or the climate change on Mirrodin (though that one might have something). Leaks are all things that the public will find out eventually. There's no conspiracy being unraveled, just something new revealed through the theft of intellectual property. That's right, theft. If we didn't give it to you and say "Show this," then you are stealing something from Wizards of the Coast and the Magic community. Is this for real TheKingofSprings fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Dec 16, 2015 |
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Chill la Chill posted:I liked the bullet point about leaks being bad because it keeps information from "less-enfranchised players" even though grand wizards have access to this info as long as they keep their mouth shut and only circulate it between a privilege few. what "less-enfranchised player" is going to give a gently caress?
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Dec 16, 2015 17:29
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It hasn't been since Maro wrote about his shirts can I so assuredly say that it would be better if they just didn't say anything.
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Chill la Chill posted:I liked the bullet point about leaks being bad because it keeps information from "less-enfranchised players" even though grand wizards have access to this info as long as they keep their mouth shut and only circulate it between a privilege few. I think they've said on multiple occasions that a majority of their players will never look at or post on a forum or reddit thread, so in that context it makes a fair amount of sense that less-enfranchised players are pretty often not going to see leaks until a fair amount later than the most enfranchised players.
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Dec 16, 2015 17:33
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TheKingofSprings posted:Is this for real wizards is a company, which means being mindlessly capitalist and retarded is gonna happen
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Dec 16, 2015 17:34
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Allstone posted:I think they've said on multiple occasions that a majority of their players will never look at or post on a forum or reddit thread, so in that context it makes a fair amount of sense that less-enfranchised players are pretty often not going to see leaks until a fair amount later than the most enfranchised players. Aren't those people also unlikely to view the eventual pre-prerelease full spoiler, which wizards themselves provide? e:I butchered that last sentence Rinkles fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Dec 16, 2015 |
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Dec 16, 2015 17:35
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mandatory lesbian posted:what was the leak that happened in 2002? That would've been Odyssey block, right?
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Those are some stupid arguments. I mean, yeah, leaks are bad (for Wizards) cause they throw a wrench in their plan for how to reveal stuff and how they get to spin the reveals etc, and you can just say "They're also bad because they lack the context of their planned reveal so blah blah". But nope, "it's stealing guise, cmon, don't just serve ur egos". I don't even know the name of any leaker, the closest thing I know is Mythicspoiler which just aggregates them.
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Dec 16, 2015 17:40
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I bet jace used unbound telepathy to steal the cards from alham maro's brain
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Serperoth posted:Those are some stupid arguments. I mean, yeah, leaks are bad (for Wizards) cause they throw a wrench in their plan for how to reveal stuff and how they get to spin the reveals etc, and you can just say "They're also bad because they lack the context of their planned reveal so blah blah". But nope, "it's stealing guise, cmon, don't just serve ur egos". Leaks hurt wizards and 3rd party websites they give preference to. It also probably hurts SSG, channel fireball, and other retailers that profit on having the inside scoop before everyone else.
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Dec 16, 2015 17:47
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I agree, Simian Spirit Guide doesnt look very good in the context of the leaked cards.
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Zoness posted:I agree, Simian Spirit Guide doesnt look very good in the context of the leaked cards. People went loving nuts when this card was spoiled.
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Sickening posted:It also probably hurts SSG, Simian Spirit Guide doesn't give a gently caress about leaks.
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Dec 16, 2015 17:57
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GonSmithe posted:People went loving nuts when this card was spoiled. did it see a lot of play when it first came out? how long did it take people to realize it and goblin charbelcher were good friends
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Dec 16, 2015 18:01
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mandatory lesbian posted:did it see a lot of play when it first came out? how long did it take people to realize it and goblin charbelcher were good friends I believe it got played in Dragonstorm, but not much else. I think as soon as it was spoiled people figured out it could be used in Belcher, but I honestly can't remember. All I remember is the MTGS thread was gigantic about people saying it was the second coming of Christ and saying it's unplayable trash (I guess that describes every Magic thread...)
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There are people who believe there is some bizarre market of consumers who will only go directly to The Brand for information about The Brand and these made up consumers are going to be titillated and intrigued by THE MYSTERIOUS LEAKS and maybe now they will something or other and at the end of the day this costs us money somehow so we must control our precious resource trickle
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Dec 16, 2015 18:09
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On the other hand leaks necessarily imply theft or breach of a non-disclosure contract. The existence of said contract is most likely at some end result a profit to wizards. The lofty motivations thing is whatever tho v  v.
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Dec 16, 2015 18:17
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Yeah its definitely not the "less enfranchised" who are losing out.
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rabidsquid posted:Yeah its definitely not the "less enfranchised" who are losing out. You don't make a one bullet point list.
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Rinkles posted:You don't make a one bullet point list. My counter-argument(s):
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The leak/hype machine was disrupted. Just be a soulless business and sue the guy without explaining yourselves Wizards it's okay it doesn't make playing a $500 deck any less fun.
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Attorney at Funk posted:That would've been Odyssey block, right? Torment, Judgment, and Onslaught were 2002. It might have extended into Legions which was January 2003.
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I agree with most of the article. Look at the shitstorm caused by people not being able to wrap their heads around {C} when it wasn't outright explained to them. In an ideal world, someone at Wizards would have seen the leak and immediately posted something to explain the cards, but there's massive amounts of red tape and corporate approval they need to get before they even acknowledge these things publicly. They have got to stop using the "leaks hurt our writers and writers of other sites who are eager to give spoilers in their articles" because there is no way we can sympathize with them. If you put yourself in the shoes of someone writing an article and going "I can't wait for my article to come out about Kozilek's Return! Everyone's going to read what I have to write!" then yeah, it's lovely for them that someone took their experience away from them... but the people seeing these leaks and being excited for them aren't going, "Oh, poor Reid Duke, no one is going to read his article now." and like I said, it's impossible for someone to feel sorry for him. Wizards thinks we should, because they can see it from the writers' perspective, but we just see a new card and get excited about it.
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