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open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

Cartoon posted:


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-15/audio-captures-raaf-challenging-chinese-navy-in-south-china-sea/7030076
On one hand the stuff that the Chinese are doing in the South China Sea is provocative and does threaten the long term stability of that part of the world. On the other hand Australian overflights are achieving nothing worthwhile towards reducing that threat and do little more than allow us to fill the Pentagon's pockets with a slow trickle of urine.

It seems like a pretty reasonable way to let China know we're not happy with their expansionist policies. If we don't do it now sooner or later we won't be able to do it at all.

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Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
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Sydney weather

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

Anidav posted:

As natural resources diminish, globally we will be pushed towards a fascist society where people put the need for food on the family table over the health of the planet and endless war becomes the norm as traditional channels of diplomacy collapse as nationhood requires resources to be maintained.

At the centre of this bleak future is you.

metal gear solid 6 looking good

Pickled Tink
Apr 28, 2012

Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.



Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.
Fun Shoe
First Dog:

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
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BBJoey posted:

metal gear solid 6 looking good

Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope

Birb Katter posted:

Monis was a terrorist in the same way Bryant was a terrorist. It's just that Monis had many more years of the media screaming about Daesh and was brown.

No! gently caress you! Die in a fire.


(sorry, I'll be playing the part of Amethyst while he serves out his probation)

asio
Nov 29, 2008

"Also Sprach Arnold Jacobs: A Developmental Guide for Brass Wind Musicians" refers to the mullet as an important tool for professional cornet playing and box smashing black and blood

open24hours posted:

It seems like a pretty reasonable way to let China know we're not happy with their expansionist policies. If we don't do it now sooner or later we won't be able to do it at all.

Yeah pretty reasonable to send military aircraft into disputed airspace if you want to avoid war

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Yo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maH1ELpwSHU
:stare:
Yo...

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

SynthOrange posted:

"I very diplomatically asked the Prime Minister and the Higher Education Minister questions which I thought would be useful for understanding the Palestinian attitudes to the peace process," Mr Pyne told the ABC.

"Other members of the dialogue were slightly more robust and could be accused of quizzing them.

Is this pol speech for 'don't blame me, it was those other two assholes I was with'?

starkebn
May 18, 2004

"Oooh, got a little too serious. You okay there, little buddy?"
It's pol speech for "I was drilling them, and the other two arseholes with me were spitting invective"

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

asio posted:

Yeah pretty reasonable to send military aircraft into disputed airspace if you want to avoid war

It's not really disputed, even China isn't claiming ownership of it yet.

[Edit: I mean, they're not claiming ownership to the point where they're actually going to shoot down planes, and these kinds of operations help to prevent that.]

open24hours fucked around with this message at 12:25 on Dec 16, 2015

Wheezle
Aug 13, 2007

420 stop boats erryday

Starshark posted:

No! gently caress you! Die in a fire.


(sorry, I'll be playing the part of Amethyst while he serves out his probation)

Not feeling it. You have to really believe you're the smartest person in the thread.

Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.

Wheezle posted:

Not feeling it. You have to really believe you're the smartest person in the thread.

hi

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
wow I didn't realise Amethyst got a probe, i guess that sorta indicates the value of his contribution

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

squat my posts

Starshark posted:

No! gently caress you! Die in a fire.


(sorry, I'll be playing the part of Amethyst while he serves out his probation)

Interesting. Oh well, if that's the new standard on wishing others death in auspol then so be it.

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
Labor gives Chinese Scientologists the green light to build 50 storey skyscrapers in Werribee

Periphery
Jul 27, 2003
...

Solemn Sloth posted:

Labor gives Chinese Scientologists the green light to build 50 storey skyscrapers in Werribee

I'm assuming you are talking about this? http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/werribee-development-bidder-given-90-days-to-perfect-its-vision-or-theyre-out-20151111-gkwhtt.html

Based on their website (http://australianeducationcity.com/) it sounds like it's going to be a mini city built around a uni (degree factory) for international students. What could possibly go wrong.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

The Age has been so hysterical about any kind of high density construction in the past five years that I can no longer take anything they say on the subject seriously.

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

freebooter posted:

The Age has been so hysterical about any kind of high density construction in the past five years that I can no longer take anything they say on the subject seriously.

Given that it's read mostly by middle/inner ring suburbanites they're really just playing to their audience.

Dude McAwesome
Sep 30, 2004

Still better than a Ponytar

freebooter posted:

The Age has been so hysterical about any kind of high density construction in the past five years that I can no longer take anything they say on the subject seriously.

Yeah, but that's because 'high density' in Melbourne means 'apartments barely big enough to be a human dwelling.'

When I moved back to Melbourne in 2010, I looked at a bunch of places around town. Every single apartment that had been built recently was laughably small. We're talking the sort of small where you put a couch and TV in there, and you're sitting 2 feet from the TV. Also, your kitchen is your laundry. So I ended up in the 'burbs.

Development in Melbourne is out of control. My local council (Moreland) is trying to put things in place where dwellings have to be a minimum size, so I thought that was pretty cool. :)

CATTASTIC
Mar 31, 2010

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Dude McAwesome posted:

Yeah, but that's because 'high density' in Melbourne means 'apartments barely big enough to be a human dwelling.'

Take a look at what they've got in Central Park, Sydney for $600,000-$700,000 (or $500-$600pw)

http://www.domain.com.au/l11-3-carlton-street-chippendale-nsw-2008-10239858?sp=3

http://www.domain.com.au/l22-3-carlton-street-chippendale-nsw-2008-10207405?sp=6

I viewed 6 empty apartments on the one tour, 4 different buildings, every one exactly the same width, about 3m.
The depth varied only slightly depending on the style of balcony, some were enclosed adding another ~1m of "living area".

The difference between a "suite" and a "studio" was the inclusion of an added alcove behind the kitchen for a bed.
The living area in the studios was so small that a regular king/queen size bed would be the only thing you'd be able to fit.

On the plus side, those photos are an amazing example of using angles and framing to your advantage.
If you have a look through other ads for similar properties, you can see the kitchen grow and shrink between shots.

e.

CATTASTIC fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Dec 16, 2015

Amoeba102
Jan 22, 2010

Yeah, Real Estate photos should qualify as optical illusions.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

I'm flathunting right now and I'm continually baffled by real estate agents who put up a single exterior shot of the house and nothing else. Like, obviously it must be really poo poo on the inside, but do they think people will just come check it out anyway and then when they get there think "Oh... well, I already came out, may as well rent it"?

Also, since this thread seems like a good place to ask: I'm thinking of renting my own place for the first time rather than going through a sharehouse (just getting older and over living with housemates). But I'm also in a weird spot in my life and there's a slim chance I might move back to Perth and/or move in with someone else in the next 12 months. Is it actually legal to transfer a lease to somebody else if you decide you want out? Or is it legal but reflects badly on your tenant history etc?

CATTASTIC
Mar 31, 2010

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It is definitely legal, but it's up to your landlord to agree.
Generally though they're only interested in keeping up the income stream so they'd probably be for it provided the person was suitable.

http://www.tenants.org.au/factsheet-18-transfer-and-sub-letting
Keep that site bookmarked, lots of good info.

You could just go for a 6month lease and resign if you're staying?

If you break the lease, that's when you can get a black mark against you.
You'll also have to pay the rent until the premises is leased to someone else, and maybe a separate fee of like 4 weeks rent on top of that.
Try not to break your lease.


I also looked at a place yesterday that had just been vacated by a guy who hoarded guinea pigs.
The whole apartment was covered in a wet, dank, musky smell and the carpet looked like a Pro Hart.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
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freebooter posted:

I'm flathunting right now and I'm continually baffled by real estate agents who put up a single exterior shot of the house and nothing else. Like, obviously it must be really poo poo on the inside, but do they think people will just come check it out anyway and then when they get there think "Oh... well, I already came out, may as well rent it"?

Also, since this thread seems like a good place to ask: I'm thinking of renting my own place for the first time rather than going through a sharehouse (just getting older and over living with housemates). But I'm also in a weird spot in my life and there's a slim chance I might move back to Perth and/or move in with someone else in the next 12 months. Is it actually legal to transfer a lease to somebody else if you decide you want out? Or is it legal but reflects badly on your tenant history etc?

The single outside shot can also just be because the real estate agent can't find their old photos of the place or be hosed going to take new ones.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here


http://rationalradical.me/2015/12/real-estate-myths-are-being-destroyed-theres-never-been-a-worse-time-to-buy/

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
why is it so large

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

QUACKTASTIC posted:

It is definitely legal, but it's up to your landlord to agree.
Generally though they're only interested in keeping up the income stream so they'd probably be for it provided the person was suitable.

http://www.tenants.org.au/factsheet-18-transfer-and-sub-letting
Keep that site bookmarked, lots of good info.

You could just go for a 6month lease and resign if you're staying?

If you break the lease, that's when you can get a black mark against you.
You'll also have to pay the rent until the premises is leased to someone else, and maybe a separate fee of like 4 weeks rent on top of that.
Try not to break your lease.


I also looked at a place yesterday that had just been vacated by a guy who hoarded guinea pigs.
The whole apartment was covered in a wet, dank, musky smell and the carpet looked like a Pro Hart.

OK cool thanks. I'm actually in Vic but I'll look up the info for here.

I always assumed a 6-month lease is unlikely to be extended, though, because it's usually because the landlord wants to demolish and build or renovate or something?

CATTASTIC
Mar 31, 2010

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

freebooter posted:

OK cool thanks. I'm actually in Vic but I'll look up the info for here.

I always assumed a 6-month lease is unlikely to be extended, though, because it's usually because the landlord wants to demolish and build or renovate or something?

Oop just assumed you lived in NSW because I live in NSW and I'm not very smart.

I've only once been in the position where an owner wanted me out after the lease end date and that was because they wanted to move in themselves (this is over 10 separate apartments).
They usually prefer for you stay in the property and extending the lease locks in that revenue stream, they don't have to worry about money lost advertising it while it sits vacant.

It would be worth asking the real estate about the option to re-sign when you first apply, if they're happy with the 6 month lease to begin with, they should be happy to extend that later on.
However; not sure about Vic, but here once the lease is over they can increase the rent at any time (there might be a notification period but I can't be arsed looking it up).
So if you want to re-sign, lock it in asap before the owner gets that chance.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

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freebooter posted:

OK cool thanks. I'm actually in Vic but I'll look up the info for here.

I always assumed a 6-month lease is unlikely to be extended, though, because it's usually because the landlord wants to demolish and build or renovate or something?

It just depends, they may be thinking of having a kid move in for school (been kicked out of places for that before) or all sorts of other poo poo. They may just want a body in there even if it's not on a long lease. You're not making income with it sitting empty.

Zenithe
Feb 25, 2013

Ask not to whom the Anidavatar belongs; it belongs to thee.
What's a con-head?

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
apparently a "con-head" means "contaminated head".

v0v

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

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I figured that it just meant con and the guys who made this are so used to being called cone-heads that it was the best insult they could come up with.

GrandTheftAutism
Dec 24, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Latest MYEFO shows a backslide to Hockeynomics

quote:

The Turnbull government’s economic credentials took a battering today as the mid-year economic and fiscal outlook unveiled a raft of cuts targeting those least able to afford the extra costs they will now face.

In a series of cruel cuts under the guise of the mid-year economic and fiscal outlook (MYEFO), the Turnbull government today revised its deficit predictions from May — a worsening of $2.3b to increase the deficit to $37.4b — and took the knife to programs for the most vulnerable in the community: the aged, the sick and the welfare-dependent.

Labor leader Bill Shorten said the update was akin to being ‘on a road to nowhere with no prospect of improving’.

“Today we hear that the deficit’s up, that wage growth is stalling just above inflation, that we are seeing confidence down, and we are seeing capital expenditure down,” he said. “So this government is taking us on a path of cuts now which is not what Australia needs.

“Malcolm Turnbull’s pitch for the leadership of the Liberals was to deliver ‘new economic leadership’.

“Today’s MYEFO highlights the monumental failure of two years’ Coalition economic and budget management.

“Today we see another round of Liberal cuts to health and hospitals, education, aged care providers, child care, job seeker services, infrastructure, as well as $1.4b in hidden cuts,” the Labor leader said.

Shadow treasurer Chris Bowen said the prime minister has locked in Tony Abbott’s cuts to schools, hospitals, the $1.3b in savings from hiking up prices under the Pharmaceutical Benefit Scheme and $267m from the Medicare safety net cuts rejected by the Senate.

“But worse still, some of the harshest cuts we’ve seen today are worse than anything Tony Abbott and Joe Hockey ever tried,” said Bowen.

The cuts include:

another $650m cut from Medicare by slashing bulk billing for diagnostic imaging and pathology services – services on which cancer patients rely;
axing radiation and oncology programs;
slashing $420m in aged care support for seniors with complex needs; and
cuts to child care before the government’s reforms have even started.

Bowen said that while the Liberals pushed through its harsh cuts, it has refused to:

tackle superannuation loopholes for millionaires;
axe its rebirthed $1000 baby bonus;
make multinationals pay their fair share of tax;
change its direct action policy, which means taxpayers are subsidising polluters to pollute; or
consider Labor’s proposal to increase tobacco excise.
“Once again under the Liberals, the people who can least afford it are having to pay more,” Bowen said.

Under the Abbott-Turnbull government, there has been a consistent fall in living standards; it has fallen by 3 per cent, whereas it increased 6 per cent under Labor.

“MYEFO shows that Malcolm Turnbull and Scott Morrison have presided over a Budget deficit blowing out at the rate of $120m per day,” Shorten said.

“The government’s promised surplus has been junked for good.”

The shadow treasurer said the Coalition’s fiscal strategy was now in ruins.


If you're going to vote LNP next election, you may as well walk up to me in person and spit in my face.

Dude McAwesome
Sep 30, 2004

Still better than a Ponytar


budget emergency m8

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
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ScreamingLlama posted:

Latest MYEFO shows a backslide to Hockeynomics



If you're going to vote LNP next election, you may as well walk up to me in person and spit in my face.

Un-ironically links to Labor Herald

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
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#thearsebloodycommunists posted:

Kathy Jackson loses appeal against order to compensate Health Services Union $1.4 million

An appeal by disgraced former union secretary Kathy Jackson against an order to pay $1.4 million in compensation for misappropriating funds has been dismissed by the Federal Court.

Ms Jackson was ordered to pay $1.4 million to her former employer, the Health Services Union (HSU), after the court found she had used its money to fund a lavish lifestyle.

Laserface
Dec 24, 2004

I hope hockeynomics makes it into national slang as 'a reaction to something that isnt actually a problem'

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

It makes his Twitter slap fights with Wayne Swan all the more pathetic.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opi...8bf673c0eafd7e6

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You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

open24hours posted:

It makes his Twitter slap fights with Wayne Swan all the more pathetic.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opi...8bf673c0eafd7e6

Quote this article, I'm not clicking on any News Corpse article links.

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