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Fil5000 posted:Gold timber wolves are sold out. Please don't make me post incredibly shameful yet inexplicably successful ($1000+ a month) Patreons. If nothing else, crowdfunding has really highlighted that nerds are so bad with numbers and money.
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Wales Grey posted:Please don't make me post incredibly shameful yet inexplicably successful ($1000+ a month) Patreons. If nothing else, crowdfunding has really highlighted that nerds are so bad with numbers and money. You can't compare 200 people giving $5 to someone making something they like to individual people spending $500 on a vehicle skin in MWO, though.
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PGI have just dug themselves a hole with monetisation though because if they adopt a price plan more like War Thunder (what I'd call the gold standard right now) then the backlash from the whales will be immense.
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Dec 17, 2015 13:56
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Alchenar posted:PGI have just dug themselves a hole with monetisation though because if they adopt a price plan more like War Thunder (what I'd call the gold standard right now) then the backlash from the whales will be immense. War Thunder is far from a gold standard. If anything, Gaijin has consistently been raising their prices and upping their grind. PGI just copied World of Tank's retail model and morons bought into it.
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Nickiepoo posted:As we've spoken about in the past, PGI are bad at business. They really should do what HiRez did with Smite and allow a one time purchase for all current and future mechs.
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Alchenar posted:PGI have just dug themselves a hole with monetisation though because if they adopt a price plan more like War Thunder (what I'd call the gold standard right now) then the backlash from the whales will be immense. PGI has never given a poo poo about people once they have their money though. See: the founders. Not that they'd do it, because it's 1) a good business decision and 2) something that would be nice for the player base (that is dumb enough to give PGI money)
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Bait and Swatch posted:They really should do what HiRez did with Smite and allow a one time purchase for all current and future mechs. Since a single gold mech was 500, I cannot fathom how much this would be 
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Skoll posted:War Thunder is far from a gold standard. If anything, Gaijin has consistently been raising their prices and upping their grind. PGI just copied World of Tank's retail model and morons bought into it. Agreed. I haven't played WT in a while but the grind and pricing is far from fun or fair; it's just not nearly as bad as PGI. THe biggest difference between the two games is that (at least in GF) the grind has more "flavor" based on every faction having a tier where winning a match is a God-given miracle.
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Stupid as they are, gold mechs also include the masakari pack (I. E. 3 of each first wave clan mech including one prime variant with a cbill bonus, as well as some premium time and other doodads). You're only really paying 260ish for your gold skin, so it's a MOTHER loving BARGAIN
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Fil5000 posted:Stupid as they are, gold mechs also include the masakari pack (I. E. 3 of each first wave clan mech including one prime variant with a cbill bonus, as well as some premium time and other doodads). You're only really paying 260ish for your gold skin, so it's a MOTHER loving BARGAIN Remind me again: how long did players have to lobby before PGI caved and made this concession? As I'm sure you recall, the original $500 pack was just for the gold mech.
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Well when you put it like that, sign me up  ......no, not really. Doan spend money on this.
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WebDO posted:Remind me again: how long did players have to lobby before PGI caved and made this concession? As I'm sure you recall, the original $500 pack was just for the gold mech. And it was originally a scaling system - if you wanted the TImber Wolf, you had to buy the pack that included everything below it. It was only after over 500 pages of player rage in a single thread that they initiated the a la carte system (which was/is still hilariously overpriced). It's pretty clear that their system is design art->offer prorder->use preorder funds to build mech->sell mech->rinse/repeat.
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WebDO posted:Remind me again: how long did players have to lobby before PGI caved and made this concession? As I'm sure you recall, the original $500 pack was just for the gold mech. Please don't mistake my post for any sort of endorsement of PGI's pricing. It's stupid and bad but people keep loving paying it. I can't really fault them for charging $Texas when people are tripping over themselves to hurl money into their pockets.
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Fil5000 posted:Please don't mistake my post for any sort of endorsement of PGI's pricing. It's stupid and bad but people keep loving paying it. I can't really fault them for charging $Texas when people are tripping over themselves to hurl money into their pockets. 
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Alchenar posted:PGI have just dug themselves a hole with monetisation though because if they adopt a price plan more like War Thunder (what I'd call the gold standard right now) then the backlash from the whales will be immense. "And we're giving everyone who did buy at the old price point heroic champion versions of those `Mechs, with both a 30% c-bill increase and a 30% experience increase, 90 days of premium time, and some MC" Edit: And a "The Bounty Hunter" skin for their `Mechs, a unique green skin colored in shiny golden dollar signs.
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Vorenus posted:And it was originally a scaling system - if you wanted the TImber Wolf, you had to buy the pack that included everything below it. It was only after over 500 pages of player rage in a single thread that they initiated the a la carte system (which was/is still hilariously overpriced). I don't mind the system they're doing now. At least for the preorder you get 6.5m cb, a month of premium, 3 mechs, a couple of modules, and some cosmetic doodads. Not terrible for 20 bucks. Way better than the old system where 20 would get you 3 locusts and you had to spend 80 to get the battlemasters.
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good times in goonstacks VVVVVV ah drat you caught me before i could ninja in a better one
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That is a weird looking centaur you drew there. So to avoid douplepost: I think people have been dropping with me and know but I'm running around in a streakcrow right now, and I seem to be.. bad? I don't seem to churn out damage like people say it should? It seems to take forever to get locked on, relative to the time someone is in my reticule, and I don't get many salvos off. Should I be going for different targets? I feel like I'm missing something (apart from just being generally bad and still learning the maps). SoftNum fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Dec 17, 2015 |
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https://mwomercs.com/tournaments?t=201512mechs p. easy event this weekend
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SoftNum posted:That is a weird looking centaur you drew there. The Streakcrow will need a clan active probe for sure. But yes, the lockon time is pretty long, and you need to stare at your opponent to achieve the lock. I think the playstyle needs to focus on light hunting at the start, then 'bombing passes' on the brawl later on. You don't want to be part of the brawl at the beginning, you want to be killing lights or pushing them out into the open where they are targets for direct fire. Only after they are damaged survivors should you engage any larger mechs.
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Ultra Autocannon 35 Direwolf is fun as gently caress. Shot many robots, sniped metal babby midflight, ran out of ammo and won by ramming Catapult to death at the breakneck speed of 50 kph.  A++, would DireTroll again!
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I gotta quit trying CW, its too drat tedious to be any fun or just a drat stomp.Pattonesque posted:https://mwomercs.com/tournaments?t=201512mechs Easy event but poor rewards, can't even buy a mechbay with that MC.
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Drakes posted:Easy event but poor rewards, can't even buy a mechbay with that MC. The other difference between WT and WoT/PGI - WT gives out premiums all the time. And not just intro-level or anything. And this is on top of the mechanic where you can get premium currency in game for winning squadron battles or golden battle wagers. PGI never got the memo that part of the way to hook people to F2P/IAP games is to give a small trickle of premium currency for playing the game even outside of special events. Oh well.
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Lemon Curdistan posted:How many mechbays do you get for free, actually? four  if you do a loop through the CW factions you can get nine more, 18 if you stick around until rank six in each
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Thanks. That's pretty low, but at 11mil a mech I guess it'll be a while until I own four. 
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I'm having way too much fun with this AWS-8Q. With quirks+mods the PPCs have 700m range and you can shoot them for a long time thanks to -25% heat quirks. It's fun to just park somewhere with a good view and start unloading at anything you see. The only mechs I don't do staring contests with are U/AC5 King Crabs, those things are ridiculous death machines. Which means I want one. Helps that so far not many lights have figured out that hugging the barndoor stops it from vaporizing them. So many lights just to zooming from cover to cover taking potshots, letting me slap them silly with my PPCs. Oh and those ECM Ravens who keep staring at me as I turn around and line my shots on their cockpit.
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Zernach posted:I'm having way too much fun with this AWS-8Q. With quirks+mods the PPCs have 700m range and you can shoot them for a long time thanks to -25% heat quirks. It's fun to just park somewhere with a good view and start unloading at anything you see. The only mechs I don't do staring contests with are U/AC5 King Crabs, those things are ridiculous death machines. Which means I want one. manthis sounds fun. it's like a whole 'nother game
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Ugh, $20 for 6.5mil cbills + MWO whales, at least we're not as dumb as Star Citizen whales?
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So aside from being a retained founder  how viable is my laser Cent now? I miss stompy bots and Heavy Gear isn't quite there yet.edit: reply not quote. I suck at phone posting
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Nebiros posted:So aside from being a retained founder This one? You are going to lose the laser arm really quickly, though its energy quirks aren't bad. Really up to your playstyle vs other IS mediums. For IS laser mediums, the blackjack is the current meta king.
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Zernach posted:I'm having way too much fun with this AWS-8Q. With quirks+mods the PPCs have 700m range and you can shoot them for a long time thanks to -25% heat quirks. It's fun to just park somewhere with a good view and start unloading at anything you see. The only mechs I don't do staring contests with are U/AC5 King Crabs, those things are ridiculous death machines. Which means I want one. I've been running the missile one with 4x A-SRM6 + 2x LL. It runs too hot so I might look into medium lasers instead, but it works pretty well for a box on legs.
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Does ghost heat still exist? Also what happened to all SRM-6 or AC20 catapults? It's been too many ages since I played, someone fill me in thanks.
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Aesculus posted:Does ghost heat still exist? Also what happened to all SRM-6 or AC20 catapults? It's been too many ages since I played, someone fill me in thanks. 1. yes but it's not quite as bad. still dumb but not bad. 2. Splatcat is more viable now with SRM changes. still way oversized. Boomjager better than Boomcat
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CW tonnage increases: https://twitter.com/russ_bullock/status/677611865594138625?s=09 250 for Clans, 265 for IS so now you can bring Pattonesque fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Dec 18, 2015 |
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Aesculus posted:Does ghost heat still exist? Also what happened to all SRM-6 or AC20 catapults? It's been too many ages since I played, someone fill me in thanks. Been running a stalker with 6 LLs and ghost heat doesn't really bother me, set all left lasers to 1, all right lasers to 2. Don't fire the second set until .5 seconds after the first.
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Pattonesque posted:CW tonnage increases: I'm no math pro or anything but isn't 4 Madcats 300 tons?
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