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BillmasterCozb posted:Can somebody give me any reason why the gun skins are perceived as a bad thing, other than "THEY LIEEEEEED" People seem to finally be settling down. Even Redditors started calling their complainers total loving babies, and when I uploaded a Payday video, one of the suggested tags after "Payday 2" was "salt." Political movements have realized this, but you really can't maintain that type of  without making everyone but your most die hard supporters sick of you.
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BillmasterCozb posted:Can somebody give me any reason why the gun skins are perceived as a bad thing, other than "THEY LIEEEEEED" Because 1) change is bad, so  and 2) Overkill did a really, REALLY bad job of presenting things initially that caused bad blood that could have been avoided. And I guess maybe 3) the pricing structure is kinda dumb given the rest of the game's, but that's mostly because they copied it directly from CS:GO.So basically, nothing legitimate.
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Dec 17, 2015 21:30
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It doesn't really matter now as the skins are being bought by the people that hated it the most on steam and life goes on.
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Dec 17, 2015 21:38
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Are they though? I know I'm speaking anecdotally here but pretty much everyone on my friends list that was against the skins (and largely more opposed to the rebalance) stopped playing entirely since Crimefest. I lost a lot of people that I could have invited to play with me; the people who are still playing and also have skins weren't vocally opposed to begin with and they sure as gently caress aren't gambling for them.
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Anyone want to do dumb stuff when I'm home in a while? I keep forgetting I'm on a forum that has Real People I Could Be Grouping With. http://steamcommunity.com/id/deiterbomber Aqua_D fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Dec 17, 2015 |
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Dec 17, 2015 22:32
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Demitri Omni posted:Anyone want to do dumb stuff when I'm home in a while? I keep forgetting I'm on a forum that has Real People I Could Be Grouping With. I'd be happy to, but also note that lotsa folks here meet up using the Payday 2 Goons steam group, and with the Camping the Stairs mumble channel.
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Dec 17, 2015 23:17
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UnknownMercenary posted:I love this new achievement already even though I haven't done it yet. it's going to be magical you can probably stealth at least part of it on day 1 even with scrub detection, but why
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Dec 17, 2015 23:24
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UnknownMercenary posted:Are they though? I know I'm speaking anecdotally here but pretty much everyone on my friends list that was against the skins (and largely more opposed to the rebalance) stopped playing entirely since Crimefest. I lost a lot of people that I could have invited to play with me; the people who are still playing and also have skins weren't vocally opposed to begin with and they sure as gently caress aren't gambling for them. I'm sure a lot of people slowed down or quit out of frustration but it's hard to narrow it down to a single reason. I'm sure part of it is that a lot of people have been playing payday 2 for a long time and are just done with it and definitely not interested in relearning how every gun works. I think they really underestimated how bad the rebalance would gently caress people up even if all the changes weren't negative, which is why I wrote "reverted to Update 78 stats" a lot last month. I'm also sure they picked up a number of new players and that some of the complainers are right back to playing anyway so who knows. As long as it stays over a minimum threshold to populate crime.net the pub game won't ever die even if the numbers fluctuate from month to month, and the nice thing about 4 player games is it doesn't take much to keep it 'alive' for you and your friends forever. or, in short, it usually doesn't take me long to browse the saltiest PD2 negative reviews and find someone who has a status of IN GAME: PAYDAY 2
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Dec 17, 2015 23:28
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 You could have a shot at this with your safes.
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I'm going to assume this update broke the hell out of Goonmod / customizer because it's adding a new stat option in the menus?
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Psion posted:I'm going to assume this update broke the hell out of Goonmod / customizer because it's adding a new stat option in the menus?
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Dec 18, 2015 00:01
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I'm a giant loving nerd and want a Hackers inspired heist. We have land crime, air crime, maybe some eventual sea crime, but what of CYBER-CRIME. In my fantasy of the heist you have to use some computer or like, hacking-hat and shoot cyber-cops and complete objectives inside a lovely 90s VR world while also popping out to shoot cops and complete objectives in the real world. It would come with a laser-gun, because, why not?
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Dec 18, 2015 01:30
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 Hurray, an uncommon skin. Hurray, another loving battle-worn skin. Christmas is cancelled.  OK, Christmas is back.
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Dec 18, 2015 01:49
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Boost drops seem surprisingly plentiful all things considered. Naturally, I haven't gotten one yet.
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Dec 18, 2015 01:51
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I did the Monthly with a friend and 2 bots and it didn't complete. Welp.
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watho posted:I did the Monthly with a friend and 2 bots and it didn't complete. Welp. Super important piece of information re: the new challenges and achievement - you have to make sure everyone activates their armor bag. Otherwise you're not completing the job with the HBV, you're completing it in a suit, so it doesn't count. It may or may not be a bit loosey goosey in that you can get away with not doing it on the first 2 days, but you definitely need to on the third. Realistically, there's nothing stopping you from activating it at the very end of the day before you jump in the van, if you're trying to run Rogue or Grinder or something. John Murdoch fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Dec 18, 2015 |
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Dec 18, 2015 02:08
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1: Boosts can go on anything, even unskinned guns 2: Each gun or type of gun has different boosts available 3:  You can Gagecoin the boosts
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John Murdoch posted:Super important piece of information re: the new challenges and achievement - you have to make sure everyone activates their armor bag. Otherwise you're not completing the job with the HBV, you're completing it in a suit, so it doesn't count. So it was that. We absentmindedly forgot about the armor bag on the first day so that must've been what caused it. I really don't think he'll be up for trying that again. 
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Shima Honnou posted:3: I hope Wilko's doing all right-this is either really good or really bad. 
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Shima Honnou posted:1: Boosts can go on anything, even unskinned guns Better jump on that bandwagon before its too late.
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Any reason why you shouldn't be able to GageCoin the boosts? I mean, if they're available as a card drop, why not?
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isndl posted:Any reason why you shouldn't be able to GageCoin the boosts? I mean, if they're available as a card drop, why not? As they're available as card drops and aren't paid items, I'll probably keep them being unlockable using coins, but I'll be upping the price on them since 1 GC is a little low.
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Dec 18, 2015 03:40
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I got a concealment boost in my card drops. Except I don't know what the gently caress I can use it on. I can't apply it to anything I have, it seems, and I can't just go look at the boost itself to see if it lists the weapons it's good on. What the hell?
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Just earned the Christmas safe and drill, but upon opening it the game crashed to desktop. I got no skin either. Would that be a trouble ticket to steam?  On another topic, is it worth modding a Chimano into an accurate but weak gun for those monthly achievements? Running Judge was hilarious for most of Framing Frame. I just don't know if I can rely on such a weak secondary. Blight Runner fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Dec 18, 2015 |
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Dec 18, 2015 05:44
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lol there's a negative accuracy boost for the steakout
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Tulip posted:lol there's a negative accuracy boost for the steakout almir hates shotguns and people who like using them
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Tulip posted:lol there's a negative accuracy boost for the steakout All shotguns have a +4 or -4 accuracy booster. It's actually really good. Being able to fine-tune accuracy with shotguns is surprisingly helpful. Of course the boosts are super minimal so it won't matter a LOT, but hey.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:I got a concealment boost in my card drops. Except I don't know what the gently caress I can use it on. I can't apply it to anything I have, it seems, and I can't just go look at the boost itself to see if it lists the weapons it's good on. What the hell? Slap it on the Judge and get it to 30 concealment. Or there's a +3 one for the Bernetti 9, which can take it to 33 concealment.
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Tempest_56 posted:Slap it on the Judge and get it to 30 concealment. Or there's a +3 one for the Bernetti 9, which can take it to 33 concealment. I can't. I literally don't know what gun it goes on but it sure as hell isn't anything I've checked.
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Broken-in MP5 skin. At least I bought up every boost I wanted before Goonmod gets updated.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:I got a concealment boost in my card drops. Except I don't know what the gently caress I can use it on. I can't apply it to anything I have, it seems, and I can't just go look at the boost itself to see if it lists the weapons it's good on. What the hell? The FAMAS, the PPK, the Bernetti, P90, and the Bronco all have a unique concealment mods if that helps narrow it down.
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Plan Z posted:The FAMAS, the PPK, the Bernetti, P90, and the Bronco all have a unique concealment mods if that helps narrow it down. It does! I don't use any of those and that goes a long way to explaining why I couldn't find what it worked on.
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I have intermittent reports of flamethrowers no longer instantly destroying turrets after today's patch. Can anyone confirm?
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Tulip posted:lol there's a negative accuracy boost for the steakout All shotguns have a negative accuracy one. It's probably among the best along with the flamethrower's damage one and ammo capacity one.
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Shotguns like low accuracy, since only one pellet has to hit to do damage, so you might as well spread that poo poo out.
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Elliotw2 posted:Shotguns like low accuracy, since only one pellet has to hit to do damage, so you might as well spread that poo poo out. 
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After playing for several hours tonight I discovered that a team exp boost will only work when applied to a skinned weapon. Lame.
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Skins with statboosts still exist, right? Could you potentially get a +1 damage skin for the flamethrower and equip it alongside a +1 damage boost and get +2 or are they exclusive or something now?
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The statboost mods override statboost skins.
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DISREGARD I CAN'T loving READ DESCRIPTIONS. But what I can see is the fact that those two scope-like things on the Legendary Crosskills skin? They're actually lasers. The kind you toggle on and off. widespread fucked around with this message at 12:17 on Dec 18, 2015 |
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