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Soulex posted:What the hell is this? I don't speak. Locking your players up and keeping them away from the media/the outside/etc.
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Gigi Galli posted:Locking your players up and keeping them away from the media/the outside/etc. Oh, yeah that poo poo's dumb. It should be encouraged really.
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Soulex posted:What the hell is this? I don't speak. What GG said. It was a common practice in Brazil in the 60s(?), 70s, and 80s and it has continued to be used by some teams to this day to varying degrees (in Brazil and other countries). I don't know if Brazil invented the practice but they sure as heck were the most serious about it. Some interesting quotes. quote:Sócrates --- together with his team-mate Wladimir --- rose up against the club hierarchy. They organised their footballing colleagues into a utopian socialist cell, called Corinthians Democracy, which took control of all the decisions that would affect them. 'We decided everything by consensus,' says Sócrates. 'It was simple things, like "What time will we have lunch?" We would suggest, say, three options and we would vote on it. And the majority decision was accepted. Problems hardly existed. there are only problems if there are confrontations of opinion. And there weren't any. Everything was voted on.' also quote:“It’s the opposite of empowering,” Paulo André, the Corinthians captain, complained before practice one day. “It takes away from your ability to grow as an individual, and make your own decisions, and know the difference between right and wrong. Because here everything is provided for you. You just breathe and walk. So when you go home you’re basically a little bit lost.” Paulo André is thirty, tall and lean, with tousled brown hair and contemplatively cultivated stubble—the intellectual of Brazilian soccer. “I wrote a book in nine months, three hours every day, during concentration,” he said. “I’ve watched every single TV series that there is.” He paints, too: abstract expressionism with a recurring soccer-cleat theme. “I find inspiration in many things,” he said. “Sometimes I just have a bottle of wine and go crazy.” That's from 2010. Socrates and what he did for Brazilian football is a very interesting subject and the first quote only sratches the surface on that topic but both quotes give an idea about concentração, how it was incredibly serious and common early on, how dumb it is, and how it's persisted to this day. The Scolari quote is amazing.
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Soulex posted:They're lovely. I hate them. Better than watching your team get dry humped at the loving Sadie Hawkins dance while you sit in the corner completely in shock at the slow car wreck that is happening before you. It's because you love them, and 4 ugly machisimo mother fuckers are all doing their best Jersey Shore impression and hip thrusting while she ping pongs back and forth between all of them screaming for someone to let her out of that cage. But you just sit there, paralyzed not by fear, but by the loving audacity of it. Except it's not Sadie Hawkins, it's your wedding, and the 4 guys are her ex boyfriends or that dude she works with that gives all types of subtle suggestions but pretends he's gay. This is your life, and there's no way out except pushing your seat back from your cubicle in your nice little corporate office yelling "IS THIS REALLY WHAT LIFE IS?!" and no one answers because you're alone. So you go to the window and jump. hmmmm heavy autobiographical vibes
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Soulex posted:They're lovely. I hate them. Better than watching your team get dry humped at the loving Sadie Hawkins dance while you sit in the corner completely in shock at the slow car wreck that is happening before you. It's because you love them, and 4 ugly machisimo mother fuckers are all doing their best Jersey Shore impression and hip thrusting while she ping pongs back and forth between all of them screaming for someone to let her out of that cage. But you just sit there, paralyzed not by fear, but by the loving audacity of it. Except it's not Sadie Hawkins, it's your wedding, and the 4 guys are her ex boyfriends or that dude she works with that gives all types of subtle suggestions but pretends he's gay. This is your life, and there's no way out except pushing your seat back from your cubicle in your nice little corporate office yelling "IS THIS REALLY WHAT LIFE IS?!" and no one answers because you're alone. So you go to the window and jump. /clears throat, blows into pitchpipe Niiiiiiiiiiiceeeeee meelllllllllttttttdooooooooowwwwwwnnnnnn
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Dec 17, 2015 19:47
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Troy Queef posted:/clears throat, blows into pitchpipe Wait till we get eliminated from EL or scudetto contending.
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Dec 17, 2015 22:13
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Would Mourinho make sense at Roma? He knows Salah and was trying to get Florenzi to Chelsea.
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Dec 17, 2015 22:29
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It would make less sense than a multinational Ceo stepping down to be store manager at your local grocery.
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Dec 17, 2015 22:35
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He's also said he would only go back to Italy for Inter, so I don't even think it's an option.
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Dec 17, 2015 22:45
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Bacca, nice. Well, Milan play Carpi and then Alessandria/Spezia if they get that far. Then the final. Kinda would be ridiculous if Milan wasn't in the final.
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Dec 17, 2015 22:59
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One side of the League cup table is: Lazio-Juve Napoli-Inter the other side is Spezia-Alessandria Milan-Carpi This Coppa Italia is fantastic 
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Dec 17, 2015 23:08
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canepazzo posted:One side of the League cup table is: It's extremely good. It also produced this extremely good but ultimately useless goal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEEKw83konk
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Dec 17, 2015 23:09
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Has anyone read Pirlo's book? I'm thinking about asking for that for Christmas. Also are there any other legitimately good football books/biographies that anyone would recommend?
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Dec 17, 2015 23:30
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Gigi Galli posted:It's extremely good. The dude dares to Zlatan, but only once every 18 months or so.
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Seltzer posted:Has anyone read Pirlo's book? I'm thinking about asking for that for Christmas. Also are there any other legitimately good football books/biographies that anyone would recommend? I liked it, it's charming, and offered a good glimpse of his personality (and the personalities of a lot of other Italian players/coaches). It's not very long though, I bought it on my Kindle before a flight and made quick work of it.
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trem_two posted:Grantland has a story about Inter and Milan today: http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-serie-a-ac-milan-inter-italy I was reminded of this friggin' guy when watching a clip of Bacca's goal today.
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Dec 18, 2015 02:11
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Roma supporters showed up and threw eggs at the players as they arrived at a restaurant for a team Christmas dinner.
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Seltzer posted:Has anyone read Pirlo's book? I'm thinking about asking for that for Christmas. Also are there any other legitimately good football books/biographies that anyone would recommend? pirlos book is nice. i read zlatans book recently and that one is even more entertaining
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Ancelotti's book is a pretty good read and includes player and management stories. I don't know if there's an english translation though.
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Seltzer posted:Has anyone read Pirlo's book? I'm thinking about asking for that for Christmas. Also are there any other legitimately good football books/biographies that anyone would recommend? The book everyone here recommends (myself included) is The Greatest Footballer You Never Saw, about former Reading and Cardiff striker Robin Friday.
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Troy Queef posted:The book everyone here recommends (myself included) is The Greatest Footballer You Never Saw, about former Reading and Cardiff striker Robin Friday. Cool. That sounds good, I'll get that.
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Paul McGrath's book is pretty great
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Cagliari's owners announced plans to build a new stadium, which would open in 2019. That would be really good, their stadium situation has been such a poo poo show. In today's "Roma supporters going ape poo poo" news: quote:Today huge posters appeared around the city on advertising boards close to the Trigoria training ground. The messages included: ‘We Romans and Romanisti declare you are unworthy! Small men without balls, we only support the shirt!!!'
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trem_two posted:Roma supporters showed up and threw eggs at the players as they arrived at a restaurant for a team Christmas dinner. good trem_two posted:In today's "Roma supporters going ape poo poo" news: good
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Looks like Iturbe has been loaned to Watford.
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trem_two posted:Looks like Iturbe has been loaned to Watford. I hope he gets to play and rediscovers some form because he's been loving poo poo.
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Gigi Galli posted:I hope he gets to play and rediscovers some form because he's been loving poo poo. I remember being mad that his transfer to Juve suddenly fell apart when Conte quit. Blessing in disguise really.
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trem_two posted:Cagliari's owners announced plans to build a new stadium, which would open in 2019. That would be really good, their stadium situation has been such a poo poo show. Now they're starting to "11 players, 11 coffins" which is starting to get scary. Roma supporters are insane. A few years ago a derby was interrupted and postponed just before the start of the second half cause the supporters claimed a kid had been killed - one of the ultras that invaded the pitch to make the match stop was De Sanctis, that Roma guy that in the Napoli Fiorentina cup final murdered the Napoli fan. Roma supporters are insane. And I hope Salah enjoys living and playing in that insane environment. canepazzo fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Dec 19, 2015 |
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Yeah, I don't think all this is going to help Roma play well or win matches. That's also presumably why it is a *good thing* for many people ITT.
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Dec 19, 2015 15:41
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trem_two posted:Looks like Iturbe has been loaned to Watford. Doubt he will get too much time against the loving tag team champions Ighalo and Deeney right now.
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Dec 19, 2015 21:17
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Sounds like the Empoli - Bologna game is pretty good. Maccarone celebrated a goal by drinking a supporter's beer, good man.
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Dec 19, 2015 21:33
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Dang, looked like a derby della crappa on paper.
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trem_two posted:Big Macc owns Lol nice. Kinda annoyed I brushed this game off, looks like we missed a good one.
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I'm sorry that I skipped the first half, the 2nd half was still really good. Empoli are really quite good and entertaining again this year.
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Munin posted:Yeah, I don't think all this is going to help Roma play well or win matches. None of these ultras making death threats are going to show up to any games soon anyway.
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