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black potus posted:personally i'm a very large fan of how this started with magic's poisonous business model and quickly degenerated into people who move their cards in their hand. truly equally grave dangers facing this game. The game is very bad to get all the things you need to play it, then the people you can play it with are also awful. Truly dire times for us wizards
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Chill la Chill posted:
You do this just to be contrarian and you know it 
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Dec 18, 2015 17:31
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Lands are the primary resource and mechanic for this game so they should be in front. Also helps to prevent your opponent from cheating with them as easily.
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mcmagic posted:Making sure you have the correct amount of cards isn't nothing... Thats why I do it. I don't pile shuffle at all if I already know I have the right number of cards, but will always pile shuffle for that purpose. Since I almost always sideboard or de-sideboard, it means I always pile shuffle  It's not that big of a deal. It's mostly just insufferable ragelords who are complaining on the internet that they're they're tired of dealing with all the other "jerks" instead of just loving playing the goddamn cardgame. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Dec 18, 2015 |
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Dec 18, 2015 17:36
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kid: mom i'm still really angry about what people do with their hands and cards in play in the game magic the gathering mom: finally i'm convinced that the bleach enemas aren't working
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Dec 18, 2015 17:36
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C-Euro posted:No I mean nothing on the card really matches with anything else on the card. Like, it's a large Goblin with Menace that also acts like a sometimes-better Snapcaster but only on your turn? Also the goblins don't have eyes? I meant to cut the quote out, I'm not really challenging you on what you said. But I think both version's art does a good job of making you see these scary, subterranean goblins, recovering useful stuff from the depths, but it doesn't match the Zendikar goblins we've seen (who I think all have plated ridges on their heads? Or are those helmets?)
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Dec 18, 2015 17:38
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Boco_T posted:Melissa DeTora's back on TCG Player today, which I guess means she and Frank moved to Seattle so she could work for Wizards for just a year. Eek, that has to be rough. I am curious what is the story behind that departure. Guy, I finally figured out what standard needs. Standard needs fireblast to be reprinted.
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Dec 18, 2015 17:45
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Just call it pile sorting from now on and hopefully people will begin to figure it out.
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Just call it pile sorting from now on and hopefully people will begin to figure it out. Actually a good idea.
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Angry Grimace posted:I don't pile shuffle at all if I already know I have the right number of cards, but will always pile shuffle for that purpose. Since I almost always sideboard or de-sideboard, it means I always pile shuffle You could just count your sideboard, which takes approximately a twentieth the amount of time that it takes to pile shuffle 60 cards
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Boco_T posted:Melissa DeTora's back on TCG Player today, which I guess means she and Frank moved to Seattle so she could work for Wizards for just a year. Wasn't she just doing a design internship or something? Although that's not exactly an internship that translates well to other companies. Jackie Lee seems to still be there. Woops, it's in the article: I am no longer at Wizards and I'm now back in the world of MTG. I'm sure many of you are wondering what happened. The short version was that I was a contractor employee. When my contract was up at the end of the year there were no open positions in Wizards R&D and I was let go. It was pretty bad timing for both me and Wizards, but I'm remaining optimistic that I will be able to go back to Wizards when they have open positions. Terrible Horse fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Dec 18, 2015 |
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UberJew posted:You could just count your sideboard, which takes approximately a twentieth the amount of time that it takes to pile shuffle 60 cards Don't forget to count the cards that you dropped on the floor while you were shuffling too! Edit: odiv posted:Also the aura from the last round that your opponent accidentally took. At least then you'll both get game losses. suicidesteve fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Dec 18, 2015 |
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Dec 18, 2015 18:20
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Also the aura from the last round that your opponent accidentally took.
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Dec 18, 2015 18:23
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Terrible Horse posted:Wasn't she just doing a design internship or something? Although that's not exactly an internship that translates well to other companies. Jackie Lee seems to still be there. The most hosed up thing about this is that she might not be able to play competitively for 2-5 years from now depending on what future sets she worked on. WOTC truly has some of the dumbest rules.
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Sickening posted:The most hosed up thing about this is that she might not be able to play competitively for 2-5 years from now depending on what future sets she worked on. I thought they changed it so it's only the first few weeks after each set is released. I vaguely remember Gerry T talking about it.
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suicidesteve posted:I thought they changed it so it's only the first few weeks after each set is released. I vaguely remember Gerry T talking about it. Does that still eliminate her from the pro tour?
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suicidesteve posted:I thought they changed it so it's only the first few weeks after each set is released. I vaguely remember Gerry T talking about it. That sounds much more fair. Not even completely sure there's much advantage, given how often future league seems to completely misjudge things.
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It's weird seeing how many of you care about card flicking or counting. Like of all the things wrong with this lovely incestuous community and you guys pick the most innocuous and harmless parroting of what people see on streams. I don't get it. "I can deal with filthy stores run by assholes, weird cliquish bullshit that should have died out in middle school, cheaters, morons playing cardboard Gordon Gecko, but this dude is doing some counting just like someone on the internet and IM FLIPPING THE gently caress OUT"
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Dec 18, 2015 18:48
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Terrible Horse posted:Wasn't she just doing a design internship or something? Although that's not exactly an internship that translates well to other companies. Jackie Lee seems to still be there. Apparently working at WOTC is like trying to get a job with the government.
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Sickening posted:The most hosed up thing about this is that she might not be able to play competitively for 2-5 years from now depending on what future sets she worked on. Yeah, it seems like a pretty huge risk for a pro player to try to transition to working for them. It's like if you took a programming internship/contract, and if they decide to not pick you up full time, you can't touch a computer for the next 5 years.
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Dec 18, 2015 18:58
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Chill la Chill posted:
Yeah makes sense that you'd want the game's primary resource and mechanic as far away from you as possible
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MiddleEastBeast posted:Yeah makes sense that you'd want the game's primary resource and mechanic as far away from you as possible Exactly, so you can see it better. Just like in Agricola or Stone Age where you place it above your tableau.
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Ciprian Maricon posted:It's weird seeing how many of you care about card flicking or counting. Like of all the things wrong with this lovely incestuous community and you guys pick the most innocuous and harmless parroting of what people see on streams. I don't get it. It's a fun thing to talk about whereas talking about Magic's spiraling economic insanity is sad and makes everyone fight.
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Dec 18, 2015 19:03
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Nehru the Damaja posted:It's a fun thing to talk about whereas talking about Magic's spiraling economic insanity is sad and makes everyone fight. Only if you focus on the negatives. Focus instead on cool and good stories of people using their magical cards to pay for college or a new car. 
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Dec 18, 2015 19:09
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The Canadian dollar is almost down to 70 cents American. Using all of my money to buy singles was apparently a good investment. Seriously considering picking up the foil Lili down at the LGS now. The price sticker hasn't changed in months while our dollar has been falling.
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Dec 18, 2015 19:12
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Chill la Chill posted:Only if you focus on the negatives. Focus instead on cool and good stories of people using their magical cards to pay for college or a new car. A Magic thread about us all being sensible and quitting Magic would be odd.
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Ciprian Maricon posted:It's weird seeing how many of you care about card flicking or counting. Like of all the things wrong with this lovely incestuous community and you guys pick the most innocuous and harmless parroting of what people see on streams. I don't get it. My store's pretty nice, and not shark-y, so gently caress you, got mine, card flicking bugs me because I'm ADD and easily distracted.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:A Magic thread about us all being sensible and quitting Magic would be odd. Well, it's not mutually exclusive. My friend still plays even after selling enough to pay for a year and a half of schooling (so about $15-20k). It's just that you can also talk about the good side of wizard economics, even though it also results in inaccessibility and a host of other problems.
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kizudarake posted:My store's pretty nice, and not shark-y, so gently caress you, got mine, card flicking bugs me because I'm ADD and easily distracted. i recommend medication as a treatment for ADD over complaining about people on the internet. and yes, I'm a Doctor.
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i will be surprised if within the next 5 or so years digital TCGs haven't edged magic and other paper tcgs out significantly. magic may still be being produced, i wouldn't toxx on it dying or anything, but i doubt it will have much clout beyond being the first. even paper LCGs just incur a bunch of distribution issues as the card pool grows that a digital game can neatly avoid. even abolishing the reserve list is prob not enough, i feel like wotc would need to uproot their entire business model (loving a ton of stores over in the process i'm sure) to stay competitive.
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What I imagine happening in the next five or so years is that Hasbro/Stockholders pressure WOTC to continue the insanely high sales and growth trends of the past five years and as reaching sales figures becomes a greater and greater focus game design starts making short term decisions and the quality starts dropping. Players leave, design doubles down on the next gimmick to try and make their numbers, feedback loop, death. It will be really interesting to see the sales figures for the last couple of sets, anecdotal evidence shows a significant drop. That's my "How is MTG going to die" fanfiction, thanks for reading.
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Ugh I can't believe anyone cares about card flicking! However, I can assure you it's much more sensible to care about whether they care about card flicking, and furthermore,
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rabidsquid posted:Ugh I can't believe anyone cares about card flicking! However, I can assure you it's much more sensible to care about whether they care about card flicking, and furthermore, whiny anal nerds are a much greater blight upon my bumper crop of sweet plays than dudes doing stuff w/ their cards. sad but true...
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Dec 18, 2015 19:58
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Weird hobby to indulge in if that's the case.
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sadly they are everywhere, my life is an Egypt upon which an angry god has unleashed this plague
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Ciprian Maricon posted:What I imagine happening in the next five or so years is that Hasbro/Stockholders pressure WOTC to continue the insanely high sales and growth trends of the past five years and as reaching sales figures becomes a greater and greater focus game design starts making short term decisions and the quality starts dropping. Players leave, design doubles down on the next gimmick to try and make their numbers, feedback loop, death. What % of Hasbro income comes from Wizards?
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Dec 18, 2015 20:00
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They are sketch on details, but discuss it as a major brand equivalent to GI Joe and Trasnformers.
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Dec 18, 2015 20:02
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An absolute tonne of BFZ has been opened due to expeditions.
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black potus posted:i will be surprised if within the next 5 or so years digital TCGs haven't edged magic and other paper tcgs out significantly. magic may still be being produced, i wouldn't toxx on it dying or anything, but i doubt it will have much clout beyond being the first. even paper LCGs just incur a bunch of distribution issues as the card pool grows that a digital game can neatly avoid. even abolishing the reserve list is prob not enough, i feel like wotc would need to uproot their entire business model (loving a ton of stores over in the process i'm sure) to stay competitive. I think one of the things magic will have is the collectible nature. It's not just the game aspect, you get to capitalize on the same drives that collectible markets take advantage of. On top of which you have the ability to get something back for your investment if you choose to cash out vs. just being stuck. Like I've personally gotten in and out of playing like 3-4 times and although I've not gotten back what I've put in, I've been able to get something. Whereas if I decide to quit playing Hearthstone or w/e, that's pretty much just gone (although the startup costs are generally less, unless you're trying to get all the chase cards where you're resorting to just cracking packs).
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Yeah I'd like to see that evidence because from what I've heard BFZ is the best selling set of all time above the #2, KTK in terms of data many regions have a serious judge shortage because so many events are happening
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