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Wheat Loaf posted:Despite being ridiculously powerful, Graviton was a bit of a jobber villain for most of his existence after his first appearance. He became more of a big deal as the chief enemy of the Thunderbolts in the 1990s. I remember reading the wiki about him and it was like "He can generate blasts up to 500 kT and was able to control gravity on the other side of the planet" and I was like, why is this guy not still around?
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The problem with gravity powers is that you can either use them like they're telekinesis, which is dumb because why not just have TK at that point, or use them smart and be an unbeatable god because if anyone tries to stop you, you warp space-time around them so they finish throwing that punch 500 years from now.
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Dec 18, 2015 18:51
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The key to quite a few Marvel villains like Graviton and the Wrecking Crew is that they are several power-classes higher than the heroes, but their simple-mindedness and pettiness holds them back.
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Dec 18, 2015 18:59
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Also Graviton is Canadian, which has to count as some kind of handicap.
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Dec 18, 2015 19:03
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Listen, bub...
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Squizzle posted:Also Graviton is Canadian, which has to count as some kind of handicap. You would think he would be more polite about being such a jerk.
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Dec 18, 2015 21:13
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Bette Noir from Irredeemable has gravity based superpowers, she just doesn't realize it. That reveal read like a old fashion Alan Moore retcon.
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lifg posted:Bette Noir from Irredeemable has gravity based superpowers, she just doesn't realize it. That's really more of a Grant Morrison thing ain't it? Iceman's stupid bullshit powers and all that.
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zoux posted:BTW what happened to him, last thing I remember him doing is being some sort of higher up on AIM Island. Graviton appeared this very week in Starbrand & Nightmask #1 as a crazy hobo muttering crap to himself. Eventually he meets up with Nitro, who for some reason is also a crazy hobo, and they team up to attack the title characters. Cliffhanger ending as Nitro appears to blow up the school they're attending (spoiler alert i don't think he pulls it off since there's more issues and Squirrel Girl takes place in the same school and that book hasn't been suddenly cancelled)
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Lurdiak posted:That's really more of a Grant Morrison thing ain't it? Iceman's stupid bullshit powers and all that.
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Dario the Wop posted:Miracleman and Swamp Thing, dude. Yeah, Miracleman was a simple Captain Marvel type hero who turns into a great hero when he says a magic word. Moore explained his power as him having two bodies sharing a single consciousness, one of which is stored in stasis on the astral plane while the other is in use. And that was the sanest part of that retcon.
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TwoPair posted:Graviton appeared this very week in Starbrand & Nightmask #1 as a crazy hobo muttering crap to himself. Eventually he meets up with Nitro, who for some reason is also a crazy hobo, and they team up to attack the title characters. Cliffhanger ending as Nitro appears to blow up the school they're attending (spoiler alert i don't think he pulls it off since there's more issues and Squirrel Girl takes place in the same school and that book hasn't been suddenly cancelled) Well, Squirrel Girl and Nancy are in the 1960s right now, so the college could explode and they'd be OK. Parker Industries will have it rebuilt by the time they get back.
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Dec 19, 2015 00:39
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Lurdiak posted:That's really more of a Grant Morrison thing ain't it? Iceman's stupid bullshit powers and all that. has Grant Morrison ever even written anything with Iceman in it?
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:has Grant Morrison ever even written anything with Iceman in it? I forget who was writing X-men when a lot.
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Lurdiak posted:I forget who was writing X-men when a lot. yeah i don't think Iceman ever showed up in his run. he did show up in Mike Carey's run and do a lot of crazy poo poo, and that run was definitely Morrison-ish, but i really liked it.
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Dario the Wop posted:The key to quite a few [antagonists] like [Mazirian the magician] and [Don Juan] is that they are several power-classes higher than the heroes, but their simple-mindedness and pettiness holds them back.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:yeah i don't think Iceman ever showed up in his run. That cover with him emerging from snow as some sort of ice golem and frenching Mystique is pretty boss.
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zoux posted:Listen, bub... He's got gravitational blood.
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Skwirl posted:That cover with him emerging from snow as some sort of ice golem and frenching Mystique is pretty boss. Chris Bachalo's covers for that run were great.
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Have they ever done a story where Wolverine gets addicted to an illegal drug because he probably can't die from it and it may help him get over the massive mental pain he lives in every daaayyyyyyy?
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Ultragonk posted:Have they ever done a story where Wolverine gets addicted to an illegal drug because he probably can't die from it and it may help him get over the massive mental pain he lives in every daaayyyyyyy? Drugs don't work on wolverine, his body metabolizes everything from alcohol to hard drugs in seconds. This is also why nowadays [or at least pre death] he could drink for hours and be sober.
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KittyEmpress posted:Drugs don't work on wolverine, his body metabolizes everything from alcohol to hard drugs in seconds. This is also why nowadays [or at least pre death] he could drink for hours and be sober. Molson: the hardest beer. 
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Maybe getting drunk is like killing him, you just have to get enough in before he heals.
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RandallODim posted:Molson: the hardest beer. If all he was drinking was lovely Molson then it's no wonder that he couldn't get drunk
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Ultragonk posted:Have they ever done a story where Wolverine gets addicted to an illegal drug because he probably can't die from it and it may help him get over the massive mental pain he lives in every daaayyyyyyy? Wolverine's awful kid Daken got hooked on some comic book super-meth that was so strong it burned out his healing factor one time.
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That's how Logan should have died.
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Logan got megadrunk somehow one time and answered the question "so if Wolverine's claws shoot from his forearms into his hands, what happens if his wrist isn't aligned properly?"
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KittyEmpress posted:Drugs don't work on wolverine, his body metabolizes everything from alcohol to hard drugs in seconds. This is also why nowadays [or at least pre death] he could drink for hours and be sober. That's a bummer, forever the designated driver.
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I recall an X-Men issue in the Australian era, titled "Men!" It was, among other things, a parody of DC's then-recent Invasion! crossover. Anyways, Logan and Havok are drinking and Havok says he's going to drink Wolverine under the table and Logan explains that thanks to his healing factor, he doesn't "get that drunk." So the implication was that he can get a good buzz on, but he has to work hard at it and it doesn't last very long. Between then and now Wolverine's healing factor has gone up and down in power level, mind you, so who knows?
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Anyone remember that Brand New Day era Spider-Man story where Logan tricks Spidey into hanging out with him on his birthday by saying he's tracking some bad guy at a bar? Wolverine gets wasted for like a minute before sobering up. It was a great gag.
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When he lost his healing factor after Fatal Attractions he turned into a lightweight and got black out drunk after a few beers.
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Has there ever been a storyline where a hero with a healing factor has been kidnapped and their organs/blood constantly harvested?
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There was a Wolverine story where he kept being infected with various diseases to get the immunizations his body created. It was all so the guy that kidnapped him could use those to create ever more deadly diseases.
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In the Secret Wars Marvel Zombies, there was a crew of zombies eating Deadpool.
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Ultragonk posted:Has there ever been a storyline where a hero with a healing factor has been kidnapped and their organs/blood constantly harvested? I could swear I saw a couple of pages posted about just that thing in one of the panel-posting threads. Boy, that's a helpful piece of information I just posted. 
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Ultragonk posted:Has there ever been a storyline where a hero with a healing factor has been kidnapped and their organs/blood constantly harvested? That was actually a big plot point in the current Deadpool series.
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Ultragonk posted:Has there ever been a storyline where a hero with a healing factor has been kidnapped and their organs/blood constantly harvested? Read the last volume of Deadpool
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prefect posted:I could swear I saw a couple of pages posted about just that thing in one of the panel-posting threads. Hey they can't all be gold medals and you did narrow down the threads. Senor Candle posted:That was actually a big plot point in the current Deadpool series. bobkatt013 posted:Read the last volume of Deadpool To Deadpool!
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prefect posted:I could swear I saw a couple of pages posted about just that thing in one of the panel-posting threads. It was Empowered I think.
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Ultragonk posted:Has there ever been a storyline where a hero with a healing factor has been kidnapped and their organs/blood constantly harvested?
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