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Iconoclasm is nothing new, but it is super weird.
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Sarcopenia posted:Ah great. Seeing that little shits face made me remember that "hybristophiles" are a thing. Teenage girls, like all teenagers, are loving stupid. Most of them will grow out of this and lead normal boring lovely lives. edit: Just noticed its all one girl. Point still stands though. Dollars to donuts she is in a one parent home. My guess is daddy issues so lives with her mom.
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Dec 18, 2015 21:57
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Solice Kirsk posted:Teenage girls, like all teenagers, are loving stupid. Most of them will grow out of this and lead normal boring lovely lives. grown-rear end women do the same thing, a really quick way for a man to get 15 marriage proposals is to go on a killing spree Hopefully she does grow out of it though
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Dec 18, 2015 21:59
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Yeah, I said most. There's always going to be broken people that find killers attractive.
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Dec 18, 2015 22:01
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Apparently even Jeffrey Dahmer got fan mail from women. I mean besides being a cannibal, necrophile, pedophile serial killer, dude was very gay. You'd think that would be a barrier.
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Dec 18, 2015 22:29
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I wonder if a common theme with these people is "mass murderer isn't really evil, just misunderstood, and I can help/change him with my love"?
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Dec 18, 2015 22:38
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Solice Kirsk posted:Yeah, I said most. There's always going to be broken people that find killers attractive. My prostitute ex-roommate had a pen-pal romance (whatever you'd actually call it) with a man convicted of double rape and double murder. So yeah, I agree with this assessment. E: At the time, she had no license due to being caught manufacturing cocaine. china bot has a new favorite as of 00:06 on Dec 19, 2015 |
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Dec 18, 2015 23:10
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In 2001, an 8-year-old girl named Lauren was found locked in a closet in Texas. She was the size of a 2-year-old, badly abused and injured, starving, and didn't know what sunshine or grass were. She'd been there for six years. The doctors who treated her had never seen anything like it. There were other children in the same house who weren't being abused the same way. After she was found, her abusers went to prison for life, the family who'd wanted to adopt her as a baby was finally allowed to have her back, and she began healing in relative privacy. I always wondered how she was doing, so periodically I'd search for information on her case and if any updates had been made public. There never was much before, but this time I found a really good longform story. Warning: very disturbing content here. http://res.dallasnews.com/interactives/2013_October/lauren/#.VnSNQvkrK70 Bright side: she's 21 (or maybe 22 by now?) and going to college, and look at her smile:  I always think about her when I hear stories of badly abused children in the news, because while her story is appallingly grim, she did survive, she was rescued and she is loved and taken care of now, and that makes me feel a tiny bit better.
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Dec 18, 2015 23:58
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pookel posted:In 2001, an 8-year-old girl named Lauren was found locked in a closet in Texas. She was the size of a 2-year-old, badly abused and injured, starving, and didn't know what sunshine or grass were. She'd been there for six years. The doctors who treated her had never seen anything like it. There were other children in the same house who weren't being abused the same way. After she was found, her abusers went to prison for life, the family who'd wanted to adopt her as a baby was finally allowed to have her back, and she began healing in relative privacy. I always wondered how she was doing, so periodically I'd search for information on her case and if any updates had been made public. There never was much before, but this time I found a really good longform story. I am a horrifically emotionally stunted motherfucker who is almost incapable of crying and the bit about the play therapy had me gushing Jesus Christ
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Dec 19, 2015 00:48
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pookel posted:In 2001, an 8-year-old girl named Lauren was found locked in a closet in Texas The Tampa Bay Times had this longform series about Dani, a child who was locked away and essentially 'feral' when DCF discovered her: The Girl in the Window. At the time I worked in FL in the area of child abuse prevention and was pretty desensitized to the horrors you'll read in DCF case notes but oh... man. She was 7 years old and weighed 46lb.
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Dec 19, 2015 02:45
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pookel posted:Warning: very disturbing content here. http://res.dallasnews.com/interactives/2013_October/lauren/#.VnSNQvkrK70 Oh Jesus. Oh sweetheart. You weren't kidding, this is horrifying. Thank goodness she's doing better now.
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Dec 19, 2015 03:08
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We had a similar thing happen near me a few years back only the girl died. They put the parents into general prison population and our local powerful gang of meth dealing skinheads murdered both of them within days.
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Dec 19, 2015 03:17
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Literally The Worst posted:I am a horrifically emotionally stunted motherfucker who is almost incapable of crying and the bit about the play therapy had me gushing God drat, it got dusty as a motherfucker in here.
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Dec 19, 2015 03:46
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A completely random killing here in Torontoquote:On Tuesday afternoon, Toronto police arrested Rohinie Bisesar, an MBA and financial district regular, and charged her with attempted murder. Police believe Bisesar walked into a downtown drugstore Friday afternoon and hacked a knife into a stranger’s chest, wounding her grievously. Then she walked away. [Note: The victim has since died from the injuries]  This was the surveillance footage of Bisesar at the scene of the attack. I've never been spooked by paranormal stuff, but mental illness is horrifying  .
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Dec 19, 2015 04:21
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I'm going to do a quick writeup of this because I've always liked writeups in this thread rather than links and quick summaries. This is a story of a disaster that never happened. In 1905, St. Peter's Evangelical Lutheran Church moved to their new home at the corner of 54th Street and Lexington Avenue in New York City. As real estate values in Manhattan grew over time, the land below the church appreciated in value and in the early 1970s, the plot of land that the church sat on was slated for development; the condition imposed on the developer was that a new church would be built in the footprint of the old building, and a skyscraper built over the church with no part of it touching the church and no structure passing through it. William LeMessurier took on the design, and engineered a tower footed on four footings and cantilevered 72 feet over the new church without touching it. The heart of the design was a structure of 6 V-shaped structural members on each side of the tower that would bear the weight and transfer the loads to the footings.  The ambitious design was approved by the city, put out to bid, and construction began in 1974. The builders worked with what they were given, and calculated that they could save a significant amount of money by simply bolting the V-shaped structures together instead of welding them, a change that was approved by the city. In 1977, the building was completed and CitiGroup moved in. The building has remained an iconic piece of the New York Skyline ever since.  It sat over the church as the conditions of the development demanded, neither touching nor passing through it.  Early in 1978, an engineering student a Princeton University contacted LeMessurier after she made an alarming discovery regarding the building's capability to tolerate wind loading and her amateur calculations. Lemessurier was receptive to her question and was horrified by what he was shown -- he had calculated wind loading stresses as he would with any other typical building in New York City, from cardinal directions. The CitiGroup building's unusual layout rotated it 45 degrees from the usual position. Faced with quartering winds (winds from NW, NE, SW, SE,) the building would suffer from loads much more severe than average, and a power failure could intensify the loading by rendering the building's tuned mass damper inoperative. The joints that had been bolted rather than welded were insufficient to survive a 15 year storm, nevermind the 50 year storm the original welded joints could sustain. LeMessurier set aside concerns about damage to his reputation and contacted both the building's architect and Citicorp, urging them to secretly repair the building. Understanding the gravity of the situation with the upcoming hurricane season, repairs began almost immediately. Beginning in mid July, the construction crews worked in secrecy, moving in to weld braces over the 200 bolted joints in the building's structure after the building's office workers left in the evening. The repairs would take around 12 weeks to complete. The city conducted an emergency census of certain neighborhoods in anticipation of hurricane season; the census was not to determine how many people might need to evacuate, it was to estimate how many bodies they might need to search for if the CitiGroup building collapsed. The most severe estimates were upwards of ten thousand dead. Six weeks into the repair, the worst case scenario loomed over New York. Hurricane Ella was was strengthening off of the coast of North Carolina and was on track to make landfall in New York City. The city was on the verge of ordering evacuation and the CitiGroup building could not sustain the wind loads of what would be a category 4 hurricane by the time it made landfall. With less than 24 hours until the seemingly inevitable evacuation of New York City, Ella turned out to sea and strengthened to Category 4 and never made landfall. Repairs to the CitiGroup building were completed late in 1978, and the everything remained secret until The New Yorker published The Fifty-Nine Story Crisis in 1995.
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Dec 19, 2015 04:29
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Glamorama26 posted:God drat, it got dusty as a motherfucker in here. Weird, there was a veritable dust bowl in my seven year old daughters room when I put her to bed an hour ago after reading that. Great article. As heinous as the content is.
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Dec 19, 2015 05:56
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A married couple picks up a young woman hitchhiker and keeps her as a sex slave for seven years. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colleen_Stan She thought she was safe accepting a ride because they were a young couple with a baby. jfc
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Dec 19, 2015 06:47
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I have to confess, when I posted the closet girl link earlier, I hadn't yet finished reading the story. I have now finished reading it. Jesus Christ. I've read less disturbing things about Auschwitz.
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queserasera posted:A married couple picks up a young woman hitchhiker and keeps her as a sex slave for seven years. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colleen_Stan I thought that this was the one where the couple kept someone in a trailer and then afterwards drugged them so that they wouldn't remember and set them free. hosed up regardless. e: found that I had the link saved: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Parker_Ray This is the transcript of the audio tape he left playing for his victims to hear when they regained consciousness Morzhovyye has a new favorite as of 08:42 on Dec 19, 2015 |
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Dec 19, 2015 08:31
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So, I finally got around to listening to Serial. That was fantastic. This logically led me to Sword and Scale, which I absolutely cannot get enough of. Any other casts like this? Or audio books? This stuff makes my desk job go a lot faster.
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Doctor_Acula posted:So, I finally got around to listening to Serial. That was fantastic. This logically led me to Sword and Scale, which I absolutely cannot get enough of. Any other casts like this? Or audio books? This stuff makes my desk job go a lot faster. Didn't Sword and Scale get really weird or creepy about something, and not in a good way? I have a really vague memory of something like that happening
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Dec 19, 2015 10:49
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I can't stand Sword and Scale, those people are so fuckin self-righteous. I really like Caustic Soda and Last Podcast On The Left, I think they've both been posted in this thread. I'd love to find more podcasts like that.
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Dec 19, 2015 11:03
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Aesop Poprock posted:Didn't Sword and Scale get really weird or creepy about something, and not in a good way? I have a really vague memory of something like that happening if I'm remembering the right podcast, the Sword and Scale guy seems to be deathly afraid of schizophrenic people and, ironically enough, is super paranoid that at any moment he'll be skinned alive and gutted by one
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Dec 19, 2015 11:21
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The Dollop is one comedian giving a detailed description of weird fuckin things from American history to another comedian he's friends with who has no idea about the subject matter, I find it quite good, especially as a non-American who obviously knows about as much about most of the topics as the host whose job it is to not know about them.
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Dec 19, 2015 11:24
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Odobenidae posted:I thought that this was the one where the couple kept someone in a trailer and then afterwards drugged them so that they wouldn't remember and set them free. hosed up regardless. Christ. I need to never read this thread before sleep again. I woke up in the middle of the night and followed this link while I was getting sleepy again. Then I dreamed I was one of Ray's captives and he was telling me all the kind of stuff that's in the tape and I tried to explain that I have a bad knee and can't kneel on hard floors. At least I was fully clothed still and I just dreamed the talking part?
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Dec 19, 2015 18:00
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If somehow they could make a feature in my podcast app that could auto-skip Henry Zebrowski's impressions I'd probably be more inclined to listen to this more.
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MissEchelon posted:I can't stand Sword and Scale, those people are so fuckin self-righteous. I really like Caustic Soda and Last Podcast On The Left, I think they've both been posted in this thread. I'd love to find more podcasts like that. I much prefer The Generation Why Podcast and Thinking Sideways to Sword and Scale. If Last Podcast on the Left got rid of loving Henry or at least reined him in, it might be good, but he's unbearable.
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Dec 19, 2015 19:20
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For anyone else who is fascinated by stories of feral, isolated, and confined children, this is an extensive list: http://hrsbstaff.ednet.ns.ca/mcfadden/SOCIOLOGY/Human%20Behaviour/ferallist_isolated.htm
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Dec 19, 2015 19:33
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I liked Sword and Scale, despite the often annoying narrator, until they covered the Ukranian hammer murder video, the Greyhound bus beheading and a third person in that multi-part episode I won't even mention because he probably still googles his name when he has the chance and masturbates furiously to people talking about him. Then it became pure shock porn and I stopped listening to it.
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Dec 19, 2015 19:52
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Thinking Sideways is ok, but sometimes I cannot stand their personalities. They also seem to get very stick-in-the-mud about topics that they aren't super interested in. The host of Sword and Scale is kind of...weird, I'll agree with that. I mainly just liked the fact that it provides some real audio from people involved with the situations. Edit: and yeah, I started at episode 1...it definitely started getting unhinged the further it seems to be going. Doctor_Acula has a new favorite as of 19:58 on Dec 19, 2015 |
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Dec 19, 2015 19:56
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My first episode of Sword and Scale was the one with the teenage murderers' 911 calls, so it was pretty hard for it to shock me after that. The host is definitely afraid of the mentally ill, but it's one of the more reliably interesting podcasts so 
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Dec 19, 2015 19:58
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Sword and Scale dude can go gently caress himself after the episode where he tacked like 5 minutes of uncut audio of a dude being murdered onto a completely unrelated episode. True Murder is good, it's run by a true crime author who interviews other true crime authors about the subjects of their books, so they tend to know plenty of detail. The downside is the host is a retard when it comes to technology and has never learned even basic editing, so you get entire episodes where the guy's phone beeps every 10 seconds and he doesn't do anything about it.
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Dec 19, 2015 20:29
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There's the drat Interesting podcast, but it's basically them reading their longform articles so if you've already read them there's no point.
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Dec 19, 2015 21:15
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Mak0rz posted:I liked Sword and Scale, despite the often annoying narrator, until they covered the Ukranian hammer murder video, the Greyhound bus beheading and a third person in that multi-part episode I won't even mention because he probably still googles his name when he has the chance and masturbates furiously to people talking about him. Is that last guy's name along the lines of L__a M______a? If so I wonder if he'd feel accomplished that people can identify him from that description alone (probably).
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republicant posted:Is that last guy's name along the lines of L__a M______a? If so I wonder if he'd feel accomplished that people can identify him from that description alone (probably).
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republicant posted:Is that last guy's name along the lines of L__a M______a? If so I wonder if he'd feel accomplished that people can identify him from that description alone (probably). pookel posted:Was curious about this last and looked up Sword and Scale episodes until I figured out who you meant. I remember that case well. Canadian gay porn guy who dismembered his lover, for anyone wondering. Yes that's the one. Psychopathy and rampant narcissism is certainly a combination.
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Mak0rz posted:Yes that's the one. Psychopathy and rampant narcissism is certainly a combination. Narcissism is actually a defining component of psychopathy.
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Dec 20, 2015 05:06
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And people can be narcissistic and/or psychopathic without randomly murdering people. It's a lot more complicated than "killed people because they were crazy".
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WickedHate posted:And people can be narcissistic and/or psychopathic without randomly murdering people. It's a lot more complicated than "killed people because they were crazy". don't post here you must remember this is a podcast that usually focuses on celebrity lives but also has a 6 part charles manson podcast about manson and his relationship with hollywood. i'm about to give it a listen but it seems relevant to the thread. too bad the website is bad to navigate
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No, no, no you guys. the worst loving episode of "Sword and Scale" was the one without no loving warning that starts of with a guy talking about how he choked and sexually abused his young son. I've just started listening to "Thinking Sideways" and it's OK. "Criminal" is really good but it rarely updates. On another note , I just saw a video by fellow goon Infamous Sphere about a Mad Men queer and women-folk retrospective where she talks about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twilight_sleep This really fucks me up as a women who now really, really want's to have children. Especially when you throw in the the whole old schooly "Hey I'm having a real good golf game going. That woman who is giving birth (even if she's the wife of Joseph P. Kennedy) I'll just make her hold it in until I'm done-thing. I now it is a long time ago but it scares the poo poo out me. How can you make birth less painful but yet WORSE???
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