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Update 4: Cartography After meeting with Arianna, the townsfolk have some one time dialogue. We can also talk to them again, to get their 1st floor dialogue. Which Ragnar missed.  Let's see what she has to say normally. He still has the same talk dialogue as before. I returned that Whip to a Dark Hunter and I got this as a reward. If you're wondering who it's for, it's meant for Arianna. I'm not sure why, but they decided to let Soverigns equip Whips in this game. Then again, they could equip Rapiers in EO3, and those aren't a weapon type in this game. That could just be a replacement weapon type for them.  And here's her regular talk dialogue: And that's it for the town dialogue. For some reason, Dubois doesn't have any new lines for Arianna joining, or the lines for entering the Labyrinth. Anyways, time to get on with things.  Not even a bark, a growl, or anything? It always has to be ellipses with you, huh? No sooner does Flavio voice his concern than Wulfgar stands and walks toward you nonchalantly. It seems that he will be shadowing you this time as well. Wulfgar, for his part, seems not to mind your doubts regarding his staunchness at all, and looks toward the forest. You nod to Arianna and proceed into the forest again to complete your mission. After you get a certain portion of the map done, the party will chime in. Well I'm not really doing anything since I imported a completed map, so... You nod to Flavio, and return to your investigation of the forest. As you walk the forest, you find colorful flowers blossoming near a tree root. They are as beautiful as the woman claims... You look for yourself and find that there is indeed something gleaming in the center of the flowers. How could a flower gleam so? You could always approach for a closer look to sate your curiosity... Let's take a closer look. You step into the area where the flowers bloom and carefully look around. Suddenly, the blossoms begin to twitch, as if reacting to your presence! At so close a distance, you receive a faceful of pollen, you back away quickly... An oddly adorable sound booms from behind you. When you turn around, you see that Flavio accidentally inhaled some of the pollen, inducing a severe sneezing fit. You decide to wait a while until Flavio's sneezing subsides. The game picks a random person for this event. Just as the sneezing fit ends, Wulfgar, who had been wandering anxiously, returns to you with something in his mouth. Wondering what it could be, you take it, and discover that it is a phial of medicine, essential to explorers! If you wish, you may say something to the black beast who found the medicine. We must remind Wulfgar of who the dominant species really is. Your friend's astounded gaze cuts deep as you realize you were trying to compete with the black beast... Well that backfired horribly. The woman has a point... There is no knowing what can happen here. You decide to proceed with caution from here on... For sacrificing 15 HP, we gain a Medica II, which heals a lot more than a Medica. Before I forget, let's look at Wulfgar's build. Not much in the way of equipment. His skill build is a mixture of offense, defense, and support, which isn't actually a good build if you're using a Beast in Classic Mode. But for us, this will tide us over nicely. Once your map is complete, your party members will chime in again. At the woman's inquiry, you look down at your map. Lo and behold, the specified area has been fully mapped. Okay, we're done. No reason to explore the first floor anymore. You acknowledge Flavio's concerns before prompting Arianna to return to the investigation. The mineral water that flows here is crystal-clear and shimmers beautifully in the sun. The black beast standing beside the shocked woman is staring happily at the flowing water... The wollf knows all. We must trust him. Let's drink. You cup your hands beneath the outpouring water to catch it in your palms. Very carefully, you bring your hands to your lips and sip... The natural sweetness of the cold water helps to replenish your stamina! Someone needs to learn some manners. Your client seems not to notice Flavio's furtive comments as she cheerfully speaks to you. She makes a valid point... Making an annotation on your map about this spot could prove useful later. You consider marking the location on the map before departing. There are also Chop points, where wood can be cut, and Mine points, where minerals can be harvested. However, you can gather materials at each spot only once per day. You may gather materials here if you wish, or ignore the spot and move on. Well, that explains everything about item points. I make use of this one before moving on. Oh, and here's another audio only conversation that's available at this time. Now let's finish up our mission. What you find in the treasure box is a wooden token with the High Lagaardian seal on it. This is unmistakably the token you were directed to retrieve. Seeing the girl's heartfelt relief, you decide that it would be best to return to town for now. But an uneasy feeling settles over you and you look around, fearful of something fearful approaching... Flavio, who spied it too, points at the north end of the room.  Look into its eyes and despair, for that is the true face of a killer. The woman gazes at the beady-eyed deer before continuing with excitement in her eyes. You ponder whether to say anything in response to this unusually calm question as the dangerous monster stands nearby. I can appreciate a woman who is out for blood. Yes! Let the thirst for blood flow through you!  Flavio gives an exasperated sigh and looks at you in frustration, then turns to the deer and speaks seriously. Despite her forlorn concession, the woman continues to gaze longingly at the deer... You corral the woman and your sighing friend and move to quit this place. FOEs are extremely powerful compared to other enemies on the same floor. It is recommended that you avoid them at first. By observing an FOE's movement, you may discern how to avoid combat with them. Think carefully before taking action. The game is serious when it says you shouldn't fight them at the first opportunity. You'll just horribly crushed. Even though we have Wulfgar, that won't be enough to take the FOE down. At best, all he can do is buy us some time to run away if you run into it by accident. Anyways, time to get out of here! I manage to slip past that first FOE. It's pretty easy to get around.  However, you cannot relax yet. You keep one eye on the deer's movements while staying focused... You turn with some dread, but it doesn't appear that the deer is giving chase. This girl will stop at nothing to get a piece of that FOE.  You feel uneasy about this innocent muttering, and have the feeling that he may have jinxed your return trip... You subtly brace yourself and resume your investigation of the forest. There's a second deer you have to get past, but the party says nothing about that one. It can only be the third of those monstrous deer... This must be the last hurdle! Ascertain your route forward and elude the giant deer as you go! And we get past that FOE as well. Wait, shoot. There was more to this job!? The woman seems solemn as she speaks, though she quickly reassumes her usual bright smile. Arianna, seeming somewhat bewildered by your comment, cocks her head. Hmm, I wonder what an EO game set in a school would be li-actually no. That would be a bad bad idea. *coughpersonaqcough* You cut the conversation short out of deference to Flavio's peeved reaction and head back to town. Well the reason why is obvious. Farewell, Wulfgar. He won't be joining our party again for the rest of the game. Though it might have been nice if he stuck around.  We get some money when we complete a mission. But we also get some exp out of it as well! And it tends to be a lot. Nah, those have gone extinct and have been replaced by Sovereigns. Yeah, this is a but thou must thing. Fine, you win. But if you ask us to call you by some dumb nickname like Airy or something, I'm out. Why do you have to be so demanding? And let's see what he has to say normally. Let's leave. We need to ask both questions to proceed. And we'll explore the ruins of Ginnungagap next time! Araxxor fucked around with this message at 11:41 on Dec 19, 2015 |
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Dr. Fetus posted:The game is serious when it says you shouldn't fight them at the first opportunity. You'll just horribly crushed. Even though we have Wulfgar, that won't be enough to take the FOE down. At best, all he can do is buy us some time to run away if you run into it by accident. Anyways, time to get out of here! I manage to slip past that first FOE. It's pretty easy to get around. I get the feeling that should be the stratum music and not The First Campaign. Also update 11 has all the game's text transcribed and screenshots taken, but it's being delayed by me replaying Super Mario Sunshine and trying to finish Just Cause 3.
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Ragnar Homsar posted:I get the feeling that should be the stratum music and not The First Campaign. Whoops. Fixed. Also I might try recording a video with commentary in the next update. Expect camcorder quality since I lack a 3DS capture card.
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Dr. Fetus posted:
Only a pair of typos. Good work Fetus.
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In every other game, the introduction of an FOE is a terrible and foreboding thing, with the characters involved dreading running into such a creature. Here, Arianna's just like "Cool. Who's up for deer steaks?" Arianna is a good character.
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Pureauthor posted:Flavio is a treasure and the best part of Story mode. Never not poo poo on Yosuke.
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Cernunnos posted:Never not poo poo on Yosuke. Deer FSteaks?
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Okay, so I decided to try my hand at recording something. How is it? I know it doesn't compare to a capture card, but this was the best I could do. I'm not doing screenshots of major battles, that's gonna be too much of a pain. (That's not the update, it's just gonna be part of the next one.)
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Would it be worth to just set the 3DS down to keep it still so you can record the top screen when it's still? Since you already have the map drawn, you don't really need the bottom screen for anything.
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Crosspeice posted:Would it be worth to just set the 3DS down to keep it still so you can record the top screen when it's still? Since you already have the map drawn, you don't really need the bottom screen for anything. It is set down. The wobbling is actually the camera.  I'll try to work on that. Somehow.EDIT: Found solution. Future videos should be significantly less wobbly. Sadly, camcorder quality can not be dealt with. Araxxor fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Dec 19, 2015 |
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Dec 19, 2015 22:04
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If the video'll be less wobbly, my only other major suggestion is hook up your 3DS to your computer's line-in port (if possible), directly record audio through that, and then sync it to the video after you've recorded both.
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Update 5: The Power of Fafnir Now that we passed the Grand Duchy's test, Cass will tell us about quests. (It's the same spiel he gives in Classic Mode.) Except we can't take any at this point in Story Mode. But Cass does have new talk dialogue for us. In Story Mode, there's actually a bar patron we can talk to that isn't in Classic. Now let's head out to Ginnungagap. Let's go. As you move forward, a gaping abyss slowly comes into view... As you walk along the ridge of the immense gorge, you spy an ancient ruin built within the crevice, along the cliff face.  You stand stock still before the mysterious man-made edifice at the bottom of the ravine. The temple is so silent that you get the sense it swallows all sound. There is an air of ultimate stillness about it... Though dilapidated from the lack of upkeep, you can tell by the atmosphere here that it is a holy place. A blue overlay effect appears on the screen. You note a bizarre voice echoing through the heavy, still air, and look around. May as well tell him the truth. You listen closely once more, but the voice is not heard again. The temple in the ravine maintains its eerie silence... Could the sound have been a figment of your imagination? You cock your head and frown, before Arianna speaks. I'm pretty sure I heard something, and that gives me a bad feeling. Let's get out of here. Arianna's reaction to your comment is one of perplexity. The woman pauses for a moment, looking left and right until she spots the bow and arrows on Flavio's back. Flavio, standing next to Arianna, responds to her bright query. With that, the woman takes a step towards the ruins. You nod your assent to the woman's suggestion and begin walking into the silence of Ginnungagap. Screw this, let's leave. Fine. Let's just head further in. The guild decides as one to go back to the way you came and continue exploring. I get into a fight with a Sunflower. They're kind of dangerous, charging up and then hitting your party with a fairly strong Fire attack if you don't dispatch them quickly. That bizarre sound--or rather, a voice--you heard upon entering is audible again. You stop, trying to pick up on it. How strange... It sounded as if it might be intelligible words, but you can't hear it clearly. The voice sounds close yet far; low yet high... It leaves you with a very curious sensation. Let's tell them about the voice. The woman tilts her head in response to your claim. If neither of your guildmates heard the voice, could that sound have been your mind playing tricks on you...? Doubtful though you are that you were hearing things, you say no more and return to exploring the ruins. You hear that bizarre voice again and stop. There's no knowing where the voice is coming from, but you are quite certain this time that you heard it. You tell your companions that you heard the bizarre voice again. As the three of you stop to discuss this, you sense something odd in yourself. It's as if your arm has a will and life of its own. You can sense it pulsating... The sound of footsteps can be heard. Flavio has a cautious look around the area, but the footsteps have already disappeared, leaving only the suffocating silence. You decide to proceed with caution. The young man acting as an advance guard signals for the two of you to stop. Footsteps are audibly heard. You listen, and just as the young man says, you can hear two sets of footfalls. Footsteps are heard again. A hoarse, panicked voice is heard from further within, reacting to the young man's sharp tone. The pair who comes into view before you is a man clad in metal armor and a robed young girl. The protector behind the girl smirks flippantly as he continues. Though you are engaged in conversation with the pair before you, their voices slowly become distant to your ears. Instead, the strange voice you have been hearing since entering these ruins returns, its inscrutable words clearer than ever. The mysterious voice echoing in your mind is now clearly audible.  When you come to your senses after the light fades, you find yourself standing someplace unknown to you. It is not where you were a moment ago, and you are here alone. Seeing little other choice, you elect to move onward... We no longer have our map. And all we can do is just to move down this long hallway. At the end of the hallway, I turn left to find this door. Their appearance is obviously monstrous, but strangely enough, you sense no hostility from them. Seeing that you have kept your composure, the figure before you speaks in a high-pitched, artificial-sounding voice. And we're back. A growl is then heard. The monster moves to attack.   Video: Mercenary BoarI hate to do this to you, but taking screenshots of battles will be a huge pain with the way I'm handling things. So unfortunately, any major battles are gonna be video only. I'll be skipping to the aftermath in screenshot form, though. But your two companions, having seen your transformation, rush to your side, clearly agitated. Wondering what could have caused such fright in her, you look for yourself... The arm is no longer the one you've known your whole life. It has become something twisted and grotesque...! When combined with what happened to you in the battle, something is clearly and dreadfully amiss... As you stare at your arm in shock, Arianna speaks up. With that, the black-robed girl sits beside you and examines your right arm with great interest. The girl looks you in the eyes before continuing. You decline to answer, when something strange suddenly tugs at your mind. If feels a bit like deja vu... as if you've known this condition before... Your closest friend, who had been watching you lose yourself in though, sighs and stares at your arm. The young man breaks his stare and looks at the ground, muttering to himself. While the princess frets and your friend looks away, the black-robed girl touches your arm and offers her opinion. The girl looks at you expectantly. You tell the others that you heard a voice, and were granted the power of Fafnir after obeying it. Though your twisted arm was shocking to look upon at first, you don't feel in ill health otherwise. Exploring further may shed light on your condition as well as fulfill Arianna's goals... I mean the arm is kinda freaky, but other than that... Despite the woman's concern, you assure her that you are fine, and she relaxes somewhat. You all agree to Arianna's decision and decide to check out the rest of this area. As you search for a way to proceed, you come across a steep precipice. Before you spreads a moat, whose water is much too deep to step into. You look at where Arianna is pointing and spot another path on the far side. The joy in Arianna's voice indicates she believes it to be a great discovery, but Chloe calmly rebuts her. As Arianna's enthusiasm deflates, you feel another set of eyes staring at you. You turn to find the knight Bertrand looking at you and Arianna, as if wanting to say something. When you put the question to Bertrand, who had been staring at you, he is startled for a moment before shaking his head. Offering these words as an excuse, the man shifts his eyes away from yours. You, Flavio, and Arianna all look down after hearing the armored man's words. Lo and behold, there is what appears to be a walkway just above the water, which stretches across to the other side. Your friend had been searching as he listened to the conversation, and now flips over a tile to reveal some sort of device. The device has a lever attached, which Flavio pulls. One of the bridge pieces moves up. Another bridge piece moves up, but stops halfway. The princess seems so nonplussed by their demands that you feel compelled to step in on her behalf. Deducing from the knight's tone that he isn't being serious, you suggest you all go search for this guard. The group resolves to return to High Lagaard in order to meet with this expert on bridges. Let's take a look at our newest party members. Bertrand and Chloe already come with a few skills. Bertrand is a Protector, and his job is to protect our party and reduce the damage they take. I don't suggest reclassing him. At all. A few fights are actually designed around having a Protector, so you'll just cripple your party if you do. His Force Boost is Shield Protect. What it does is when Bertrand casts a Guard skill, anyone who's covered by the skill will have any damage they take reduced by 50%. Sounds great, except the Guard skills already reduce damage enough on their own. And it might cause you to not have Perfect Defense available when you really need it. Speaking of which, Perfect Defense is one of the best defensive skills in the game, as it prevents your party from taking any damage for the turn. However, it can't block stuff like Ailments, binds, or debuffs, unless they were a secondary effect of a damage skill. Chloe is a War Magus. She is a combination of a healer, support, and damage dealer. So she's kind of a jack of all trades sort of character. She's pretty good at all of them, though. In fact, she's actually one of our best damage dealers in the party. She can dish out damage on par with Knight in some circumstances. But as the game goes on, she's better off used as a support. Not because her damage falls off, her best damage skill still hits like a truck in the late and post-game. It's because at those points, her support skills are far more valuable than her offensive ones. Her Force Boost, War Edge Mastery, enables her War Edge skills to inflict their secondary effects on enemies that don't have ailments. (Otherwise, the secondary effects don't kick in.) Her Force Break, Fairy's Robe protects the entire party from ailments, binds, instant death, and debuffs for the turn. However, it doesn't work against skills that dispel buffs. It's pretty powerful, and Chloe's a really good party member. And I guess I should talk a little more about Knight, now that he finally has his Force skills. Transform is the class' central gimmick. Knight isn't too much to talk about in his base form, but once he Transforms, he's completely healed, his max HP is doubled, and his damage output gains a 50% boost. He also gets access to several skills that he can't use in his base form. His Force Break, Ignition Ray, hits a single enemy with composite Fire+Ice+Volt damage. The damage on that scales with levels. Also after that fight with the Mercenary Boar, his battle sprite replaces his right glove with that metal gauntlet. Ragnar didn't talk about this enemy much in his Classic playthrough, but these guys are kind of dangerous to a Story Mode party. Especially if you encounter them before running into Bertrand and Chloe, as their physical attacks hit hard at this point. Anyways, we can't proceed further into Ginnungagap thanks to a broken bridge, so we need to leave. Dubois leaves. Well? What will our guild name be? Araxxor fucked around with this message at 08:19 on Dec 20, 2015 |
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Guild. We should name the guild Guild. Goes perfect with Knight the knight.
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Might as well go with something related to Fafnir- how about Wagner, after the guy who wrote the opera that Fafnir appears in?
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Supremezero posted:Guild. We should name the guild Guild. Goes perfect with Knight the knight. Seconding Guild Also, isn't it funny how well the hero takes this? Just after five seconds of looking kinda scared, it's just "eh, whatever". The party gets over it really fast. AmewTheFox fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Dec 20, 2015 |
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Dot jpg
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Nthing Guild, since we are being as unserious as possible.
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To be sort of opposite of the classic guild, Umbra.
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Gotta go with Guild.
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I guess I'll join the Guild bandwagon.
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Gotta go with Wagner.
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Guild Guild will be the most guild to ever guild.
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AmewTheFox posted:Seconding Guild Well, they correctly chalk it up to be part of the mysterious ritual they're doing, so there's not much point in dwelling on it. Also, Guild, which is ironically what I named my guild in this game too.
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Clarste posted:Well, they correctly chalk it up to be part of the mysterious ritual they're doing, so there's not much point in dwelling on it. It's not like the EOU story party questioned Frederica's origins that much or the fact that Gladsheim's technology was far more advanced than anything they had (as far as I can remember, anyway). 
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Yeah it was pretty much "I'm sure you'll remember why you were in this thousand year old technologically advanced dungeon eventually"
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Guild, it is!
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Reaction from a non-goon friend of mine who's been following this about the guild name:quote:1:18 AM - ϟ Single Spiral ϟ: I'm expecting the Cafe is going to be called Cafe at this rate Also my procrastination on writing update 11 has gotten to the point where I recorded update 12 a few hours ago.
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Ragnar Homsar posted:Reaction from a non-goon friend of mine who's been following this about the guild name: PERFECT! We must make it so! I mean, we already hit the top with real names with FOEbucks anyway.
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Update 11: Timelines Jumping Left and Right      Going into the Labyrinth with a near-full pack is a very bad idea. In every EO game, your inventory has a maximum of 60 slots (EO1 and 2, where your inventory was filled up by key items, nonwithstanding), and once you hit that 60 item cap, you have to start throwing stuff away, whether it be new items or stuff you already have. That's pretty obviously not something I want to do. At the same time, I'd rather not sell, for example, our Therica Bs. So what do you do? Drop stuff off at the cafe! Regina can hold up to 99 items, which you probably won't hit unless you are an incredibly massive hoarder.  I drop our pack's current load from 44 items to 20 items. Much better. And hey, might as well drop some EO history while I'm at it. In EO1, there was no way to store items. At all. You had your inventory, and that was it. Which wasn't helped by the fact that stuff like your drat map and key quest items (one of which was bugged and would permanently stick around in your inventory after you turn in the quest) were counted as normal items. Atlus realized that this system was kind of inexcusable, and let you drop off items at the inn in EO2...for a fee. EO3 used that same system, with the addition of certain sidequests dropping the cost to store items at the inn. EO4 switched up the system a little: storing items was now free, but your storage space is incredibly limited at the start, and is increased through sidequests. EOU again switched up the system, and EO2U uses pretty much the exact same system--storage is now done at the "guild house," which was a Suburban Mansion in EOU and is the Ducal Restaurant in EO2U. Storage is free, much like in EO4, but you now have max storage to begin with. Atlus also added in the ability to sort through your storage by categories of Consumables, Equipment, and Materials.    Anyway, I hope you enjoyed that two-update diversion to some ancient ruins, because we're back in Yggdrasil now.   Shortcuts and secret passages in the Auburn Thicket looks like cracked rocks. Stands out decently enough from the background.   The pre-battle transition effect also changes from stratum to stratum, although Ginnungagap just uses the 1st Stratum's transition.    Odd Statue HP: 268, STR: 16, VIT: 15 Skills:
Binding this hulk's stone arms will do you very little good... Odd Statues, in the original EO2, were assholes. They could petrify single targets, and their AI was set to prioritize the back row. Here, they're pretty much trash mobs aside from resisting two of the three types of physical damage. Sweep Strike can pretty severely hurt a Beast if they're using Hit-Taker, but that's it.  Frilled Lizard HP: 169, STR: 15, VIT: 12 Skills:
It uses its frills to intimidate intruders. Those who stand their ground often regret it... Frilled Lizards are even bigger trash mobs than Odd Statues. Strike Up hurts a bit more than normal, but still not much overall.  Colette's TP pool is decent enough that I can use Ailing Slash to just clear out mobs in one hit.  Ranger's damage is pretty meh outside of Transform, but he can at least still hit elemental weaknesses with his Sabres. The Sabres are skills you really want to level up, but it's because the Waves scale off the Sabre levels--the Sabres, on their own, deal ~250% damage at level 10. At least the Sabres are pretty cheap, even for Ranger's small TP pool.   Ailing Slash either one-shots random encounters or puts them very close to dying. The Vampire heal is also nice for sustain.  The Shock Sabre was intended for the Odd Statue, so it didn't hit the Frilled Lizard's weakness to ice. You'll also notice that Ranger is really, really slow. Even outside of Transform's action speed penalty, the Fafnir class has the second lowest AGI out of any class--the War Magus has the lowest, for the record.   The encounters aren't that much of a threat yet. You will be quite happy to know that I forgot that Armcut exists, and did not try at all for the Odd Statue's conditional, even in the next update. OH WELL. I'll get it some nebulous time in the future.   Secret passage here.   It took me until I was at the 6th stratum on my first playthrough to find these recipes. It's kind of easy to tell where secret passages are, usually--just look for big empty spaces in the middle of a floor. Chances are good there's a secret passage somewhere nearby.   SYSTEM: You follow the odor by searching through the grass, where you find a monster's corpse. It seems to have died leaning against the tree's roots, with its legs splayed out. Could another explorer have slain it? Perhaps you could scavenge some raw materials... But you'd have to ignore the stench to ssearch the corpse... You may simply want to leave. SYSTEM: Blinking back tears against the awful stench, you take a careful look at the corpse. But it seems you weren't the only one attracted by the smell...! A monster with a taste for rotten flesh hangs from the trees above you, baring its fangs!   Giant Moa HP: 552, STR: 18, VIT: 16 Skills:
This large, flightless bird has evolved a pair of powerful legs! Giant Moas aren't really that threatening on their own. Heavy Stomp really hurts, and will lop off most of your party's health (or kill your Beast if they're tanking it), but it's not really enough to actually kill people from full. With other monsters, however, things get pretty dangerous.  This is what we'd normally call "a mistake."  Ursa would've been tanking a LOT of hits if the blind didn't proc, and most likely would've died.   Giant Moas are threats with other monsters, but very manageable on their own.  SYSTEM: Grab whatever you can can and leave the area before you lose the contents of your stomach!  Scarlet Vines are a common Chop item that we can get next floor. Not too shabby.     Tree Sponges, pictured above, have a pretty simple movement pattern: they just patrol a straight line. The area around here has small little alcoves, I suppose I'd call them, which we can just pace back and forth in to wait for the Tree Sponge to pass.   All I have to do is go to that space on the left, and just pace for a few steps.   Easy enough.    Take spot. We needed the Mint Leaves for Medicinal research.   Got a few level ups from an otherwise boring fight.  I'm leaving Ailing Slash at level 9 for now, since level 10 makes the TP cost jump to 24.  Ursa unlocked Preemptive Roar, a passive that gives Ursa a chance to automatically cast Beast Roar when a fight starts. Very useful against random encounters and bosses where you don't want your Beast to take a turn setting up Self-Defense. I won't be getting it for a bit, though.  Another level in Freeze Sabre for Ranger.  And another level in Shelter Song for Milly.     SYSTEM: You remain vigilant for some time, but the sound does not reoccur. You can't be certain if it's hiding from you or waiting for a chance to strike... Part of you wants to leave the room now, and part of you wants to proceed with caution.   SYSTEM: Apparently scared by your drawn weapons, the source of the noise flees deep into the forest. You sheathe your weapons and look around. Something has fallen to the floor... The unseen creature must have dropped it. You stow the unexpected bounty in your bag.  Tricolor Fruit is a rare Take material. Pretty nice freebie, especially given that it sells for 250en.    Uh-oh.    Blindly having your Beast spam Hit-Taker really isn't that great of an idea.   Nadia's faster than Milly is, so I can revive Ursa and then heal her near-immediately.   That's the nice part about having two really fast supports, you can break out any items you need before an enemy acts (usually).  Like I said, Giant Stomp hurts enough that we'd be in serious trouble if there were any enemies besides the Giant Moa.   This is the downside to not having Realga in the party and not having any War Heal skills on Colette: if the party takes heavy damage, we have to burn through lots of Medicas to treat it. At least having Ursa tank everything means I just have to heal her.   A pretty simple puzzle with Tree Sponges. Just wait for a gap between the two Tree Sponges, which'll come eventually. Funnily enough, this same puzzle was used in EO4 too...in the postgame stratum.     To our left is a treasure chest, right at the end of this Tree Sponge's patrol path.   We move when the Tree Sponge is at that position...   And get something that's basically worth nothing. Insight Melody (what's on this Grimoire) is a Troubador skill that increases your party's hit rate. More importantly, though--notice that there's no one-way shortcuts out of this path.    WELP. Always make 100% sure you actually have an Ariande Thread, folks!    I'm not going to post the Tree Sponge's full stats. All you need to see is this:         Had to happen eventually. Sometimes game overs in EO are the result of the games pulling crap the player couldn't really have seen coming (more common in EO1 and 2 than the later ones), sometimes it's the result of the player getting cocky and overextending...and sometimes it's just the player's idiocy, as seen here. It's tempting to either switch the DS off and go do something else (EO1-3) or slam the Home button and go play another game (EO4, EOU, EO2U), but don't.  Because of this. Even as far back as EO1, when you game over, the game gives you the chance to save your map data. What this means is:
Letting you save your map data is basically EO's way of telling you "okay, you screwed up. Now that you know better, try not to let it happen again."      Alright, let's try that again.  Let's just pretend that never happened, okay?  Aside from rectifying my mistake.   I'll skip over getting back to where we were, since there's basically nothing interesting about this time around.    Yeah, unless you can kill the Tree Sponge, the only way out of getting that Insight Melody Grimoire is either suiciding on the Tree Sponge (which isn't really a way out), using an Ariadne Thread, or coming back once you have Floor Jump enabled for 6F.       I make a quick stop at Sitoth to unload what I got after redoing my progress. Lactarius Staff is unlocked by selling 1 Open Cap. It provides +2 TEC. Decent for Medics and Alchemists, although it's probably not worth upgrading to if you have one of the staves that gives +1 TEC and some extra TP from the 1st Stratum. Kurodachi is unlocked by selling 1 Iron Toenail. If you're using the Fushuu, it gives a whopping +2 ATK instead of the Fushuu's +10 TP. I'll pass. Red Whip is unlocked by selling 1 Scarlet Vine. It's wholly unremarkable. Life Belt is unlocked by selling 1 Ostrich Tendon. It gives +20 HP. Could be pretty useful on a Beast--it'd translate to +60 HP during Desperation. Therica As are unlocked by selling 1 Mint Leaf. I already explained what they do back in Ginnungagap, but for a quick refresher: consumables that purge all binds on one ally. The single-target Jars are unlocked by selling 1 Tricolor Fruit. They don't really do enough damage to justify using unless you have classes like Medics or Hexers who can run out of stuff to do for a while.  I learned my lesson, don't worry.  Abigail starts talking to us when we leave the store. And now that the quest's over, here's Abigail's 2nd Stratum cafe dialogue.   Cass tends to ramble even for small quests like this. It's kind of a pain to transcribe that much text for such a minor quest, but oh well. One of the one-panel comics that was published on EO2's Japanese and English websites was entirely about making fun of Cass's rambling.   I forgot to actually use Nadia's level up until much later.   This is legitimately the worst possible situation to start a random battle in. Remember that FOEs can join in on fights in progress!     Giant Shroom HP: 154, STR: 11, VIT: 10 Skills:
A mushroom monstrosity whose poison-filled cap can emit a paralyzing toxin. I wouldn't normally dedicate a Force Break to two Giant Shrooms, but I'd really not take any chances on the Tree Sponge horning in. The paralysis is usually annoying enough, but it makes Tree Sponges even worse. (Although, going by past events, I shouldn't really be concerned about that part.)    The other Take point of the floor.   We're nearly done with the floor here. What we have just ahead is four Tree Sponges, all patrolling each side of a square.   Going straight down there is impossible, since there's no cover from the Tree Sponge.     There is cover for the upper Tree Sponge's path, however. Just walk back and forth here for a bit...   And we're clear to go.   Same deal for the next one.      One unremarkable fight later, I remember that Nadia got a level up, and put another point in Paralysis Arrow.   Scout Boots massively reduce the amount of damage we take from damage tiles. We'll actually seem them on 8F.   6F complete. (Ignore the small, pointless alcove that's presently unmapped. I do map it shortly after this.)   I take the time to map out a bit of 7F, and then head back to town.  Here's the 7F quests. Toward a cozier inn: A honeyed lure:  And lastly...ugh, The beautiful princess: Ha ha, very funny, Cass. What he actually means by this is "gently caress you, this quest is going to taunt you all the way until 29F." We are not going to be finishing The beautiful princess any time in the near future.  The bar patrons. The Extravagantly-dressed man shows up as part of The beautiful princess:  With that slap in the face in mind, here's a thing regarding quests I haven't shown yet. If you go to Report results, and select a quest you haven't finished yet...  You can cancel the request. And good thing, too, because all The beautiful princess would do is take up space in our quest log (we can only have five active quests at a time). We'll be getting the first proper quest in this long, tedious trade-up on 8F. Anyway, before we talk to the barflies, here's Cass's 7F dialogue:  And now, the bar patrons. Dulcet-voiced caster: Exhausted Tramonte: A conditional I have no way of getting unless Sophie's in the party. Magnificent. Haughty doctor: Foreshadowing something on 7F here.  Marion's 7F dialogue.  Dubois's 7F dialogue.  Regina's 7F dialogue.   Before we talk to Abigail, I sell the materials we got since the last stop at Sitoth. Kora is unlocked by selling 3 Iron Toenails. I'm still sticking with Hrothgar's Sword, but not for long. Bravants are unlocked by selling 1 Mugwort. They're consumables that buff one ally's attack for a few turns. I prefer to use player skills like Attack Order or Warrior Song. Anyway, Abigail's 7F dialogue.   Hanna starts talking to us as soon as we enter, because of Toward a cozier inn. And because the quest overrides Hanna's normal 7F dialogue, here's Quona's:  Rea fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Apr 2, 2016 |
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Never forget the ariadne thread.
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Tree Sponges are where FOEs stop messing around.
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Dec 21, 2015 17:42
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Huh. You didn't try just transforming Ranger and have him attack with just his waves, at least? You might have had more of a chance there. Also I forget, but does Persona Q have Miiverse support?
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Dr. Fetus posted:Huh. You didn't try just transforming Ranger and have him attack with just his waves, at least? You might have had more of a chance there. Tree Sponges have 4808 HP. If I did a Ice Wave -> Accelerate -> Ice Wave + Ice Wave + Akashic Nova, I don't think it would've killed it--each Wave and Akashic Nova would've had to deal ~1200 damage each to kill the Tree Sponge. Tree Sponges are weak to Fire, but I think Freeze Sabre being level 9 compared to Flame Sabre being level 1 offsets the difference. Also yeah, Persona Q has Miiverse support. I would not advise doing an LP of it that way, though--consider that I take well over 100 screenshots for a single update, and Miiverse limits you to 100 screenshots per game. You'd be spending a lot of time deleting stuff just for one update at a time. Rea fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Dec 21, 2015 |
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Apparently while it has Miiverse support, it doesn't actually let you take screenshots of the game without a old 3DS and doing some sort of exploit. So a Miiverse LP of that isn't possible for me, unfortunately.
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Dec 21, 2015 22:33
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Dr. Fetus posted:So a Miiverse LP of that isn't possible for me, unfortunately.
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Txn posted:Why do you hate yourself? I mean, Persona Q is a decent game...up until Inaba Pride. It has a ton of weird design decisions (I still don't know why nearly every enemy has either a weakness to Light or Dark instant death), and Panic trivializes literally everything in the game (including the Clockwork God and Zeus), but it's still decent for the first 3/5 of the game.
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Dec 21, 2015 22:55
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I was talking more about the Miiverse screenshot part than Persona Q.
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Considering how much dialgoue is in Persona Q, I'd not recommend doing a SSLP of it.
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One thing I like about the Untold Story mode is that the different characters have different lines to say when attacking, using certain skills, using items, etc. Really helps establish personalities without using up 20 lines of dialogue to say what a few in-battle lines can say in five words or less. You agree?
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