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neonbregna posted:lol if you tipping minimum isn't 20% ... and here we go
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Wheany posted:... and here we go not on my watch, fucktard.
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lomarf. watch.
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Dislike button posted:calling someone a tax avoider is a really stupid term. it's proper financial decision making for me to deduct my mortgage interest, state income taxes, property taxes, etc which the government explicitly allows me to do, and if I instead for some reason just claimed the standard deduction it doesn't mean I am superior morally or ethically it just means I'm bad with money and as a result have overpaid please the deductions you lists, if you claim them, are being used as intended. apple and other large corporations are jumping through arcane hoops and exploiting holes in jurisdiction in order to avoid paying taxes that they would have to pay otherwise. stuff like opening a skeleton office in reno to pay NV corporate taxes rather than CA taxes, or recognizing profits in ireland or the british virgin islands. it's unethical, and it's also an unfair advantage against companies whose sales aren't as easy to delocalize~ quote:As it stands, the company paid cash taxes of $3.3 billion around the world on its reported profits of $34.2 billion last year, a tax rate of 9.8 percent. (Apple does not disclose what portion of those payments was in the United States, or what portion is assigned to previous or future years.)
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PleasureKevin posted:i actually kind of hate this attitude. if it bothers you so much how about you get super wealthy and buy up all of the apple stock and then do a hostile takeover and then liquidate the entire company and give all the money to the government instead of being a punk rear end buster sitting in a dimly lit room sticking your pinkie in your belly button and sniffing it while giggling
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Pinterest Mom posted:please "Any one may so arrange his affairs that his taxes shall be as low as possible; he is not bound to choose that pattern which will best pay the Treasury; there is not even a patriotic duty to increase one's taxes." "Over and over again courts have said that there is nothing sinister in so arranging one's affairs as to keep taxes as low as possible. Everybody does so, rich or poor; and all do right, for nobody owes any public duty to pay more than the law demands: taxes are enforced exactions, not voluntary contributions. To demand more in the name of morals is mere cant." 
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Stux posted:75% tax on all corporation profits
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Locker Room Zubaz posted:what incentive does apple have to lose almost half of its overseas money by repatriation? they can get loans at like 2% interest rates and just keep that money overseas to deal with expenses there and wait for the tax code to be fixed. People shouldn't get mad at Apple and Buffet for paying exactly what they are required to pay, they are symptoms of a problem of a lovely tax code that needs to be updated to actually reflect how the modern economy works. I don't think morals can really be applied to tax burdens and stuff note: it's patriation, not repatriation. the money came from business overseas there's no reason to bring that money to the US anyway. apple USA isn't on the edge of bankruptcy, and they're a global company with countless assets and liabilities overseas. bringing foreign holdings to the US for no other reason than to pay unnecessary taxes is a breach of fiduciary duty and these "elaborate tax schemes" arent Pinterest Mom posted:please luckily california pursues foreign corporations with nexus in its borders, especially the once-popular foreign nevada corporation, eliminating the purpose of such arrangement except for the most off-the-radar and inconsequential companies and it turns out these jurisdiction loopholes are called trade agreements
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I am the arbiter of which corporate structures are immoral. corporations should pay until I feel they have sufficiently atoned for whatever evils I have ascribed to them.
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Triglav posted:there's no reason to bring that money to the US anyway. apple USA isn't on the edge of bankruptcy, and they're a global company with countless assets and liabilities overseas. bringing foreign holdings to the US for no other reason than to pay unnecessary taxes is a breach of fiduciary duty apple's number one use for that money would be to buy back its own shares and pay dividends. it can't do this with money held outside the US. but instead of giving money to their stock holders, people apparently prefer they hold on to it and accumulate interest.
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this is a poo poo discussion and really boring
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Dislike button posted:yep and that's pretty much what Tim Cook is saying, it's political crap to attack them for following the rules when the governments responsibility is to set and enforce those rules. Of course they have better things to do like try to repeal obamacare for 70th time yeah corps aren't subject to notions of human morality but they also don't need to be defended by fanboys against political attacks as though their human feelings are hurt. apple is a convenient example of a large company that pays less US tax than joe voter might consider fair, and politicians using them as an example to advocate for corporate tax reform is perfectly valid since any eventual law changes would be applied equally to their fellow multinationals.
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wish katie cotton still worked at apple. she would destroy the verge
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yeahcremnob posted:Apple Inc Chief Executive Tim Cook dismissed as "total political crap" the notion that the tech giant was avoiding taxes.
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:yeah corps aren't subject to notions of human morality but they also don't need to be defended by fanboys against political attacks as though their human feelings are hurt. apple is a convenient example of a large company that pays less US tax than joe voter might consider fair, and politicians using them as an example to advocate for corporate tax reform is perfectly valid since any eventual law changes would be applied equally to their fellow multinationals. hardly a fanboy I'm just pointing out that Tim Cook happens to be correct about how retarded the us corporate tax code is and if anything he didn't go far enough in his criticism.
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broken clock opsec posted:ban cremnob
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pay the minimum. always. the ferengi are the most correct society.
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Smythe posted:not on my watch, fucktard. neonbregna: You see this little hole? This moth's just about to emerge. It's in there right now, struggling. It's digging its way through the thick hide of the cocoon. Now, I could help it, take my knife, gently widen the opening, and the moth would be free. But it would be too weak to survive. The struggle is nature's way of strengthening it. Now this is the second time you've asked me for your drugs back. Ask me again and it's yours. smythe: ?!? Smythe is not the hero somethingawful.com deserves but the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him. Because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector. A dark mod. Smythe 2016 down with fascist lowtax
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broken clock opsec posted:ban cremnob
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broken clock opsec posted:ban cremnob
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Dislike button posted:hardly a fanboy I'm just pointing out that Tim Cook happens to be correct about how retarded the us corporate tax code is and if anything he didn't go far enough in his criticism. no, that's fair, i wasn't trying to imply the fanboy was you, it was more of a general observation
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I am a huge fanboy of all of these corporations and think mean old politicians shouldn't pick on them. General Electric $119b Microsoft $92.9b Pfizer $74b Apple $69.7b IBM $61.4b Merck $60b Johnson & Johnson $53.4b Cisco Systems $52.7b Exxon Mobil $51b Google $47.4b Procter & Gamble $44b Citigroup $43.8b Hewlett-Packard $42.9b Oracle $39.3b PepsiCo $37.8b Chevron $35.7b Coca-Cola $33.3b JPMorgan Chase $31.1b Amgen $29.3b or maybe I think they should have a sane avenue of getting all that money into the US so they could spend it inside the country. the total is over $2 trillion The Management fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Dec 20, 2015 |
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The Management posted:I am a huge fanboy of all of these corporations and think mean old politicians shouldn't pick on them. lol if your answer is 'trickle down' tho o abloo hoo 'double taxation' guess loving what that's what you pay for not being directly liable for your ownership stake
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we should get rid of money, it only makes people upset
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what if we switched to crypto currency
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i'll create lamorf coin to solve this probelme
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The Management posted:I am a huge fanboy of all of these corporations and think mean old politicians shouldn't pick on them. you can remove pfizer from that list soon 
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what'd they do? I love those guys the sales rep in my area is cute :3
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echinopsis posted:what'd they do? I love those guys What's his name?
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why haven't they made apple maps work yet
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you want subway directions to littlefield, a popular bar three miles from you? are you sure you don't mean littlefield Texas? well aren't you dumb, there's no public transit to a town of six thousand people two thousand miles away from you
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800 New York avenue? are you sure you don't mean east New York avenue, an entirely separate street?
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apple maps still doesn't have small streets in my area that are on not just google maps but openstreetmaps. its pretty impressive that its stayed bad this long.
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if you were truly dedicated to the righteous cause of the best mobile operating system on the best mobile hardware written by the best company who also makes the best computers with the best desktop UNIX operating system in the world then you would move somewhere where apple maps works instead of trying to use it somewhere where it doesn't
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broken clock opsec posted:if you were truly dedicated to the righteous cause of the best mobile operating system on the best mobile hardware written by the best company who also makes the best computers with the best desktop UNIX operating system in the world then you would move somewhere where apple maps works instead of trying to use it somewhere where it doesn't 
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broken clock opsec posted:if you were truly dedicated to the righteous cause of the best mobile operating system on the best mobile hardware written by the best company who also makes the best computers with the best desktop UNIX operating system in the world then you would move somewhere where apple maps works instead of trying to use it somewhere where it doesn't
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apple maps works for me. much faster to launch maps thank maps.google.com. as for transit, i just use the Transit app shows all the arrival times for bus stops near me, which is all i really want anyway since i know the routes.
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