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Nostalgia4Dicks posted:Is the concept of not wanting SBMM and the debacle around it that hard to understand? As already said COD is notorious for poo poo connections and net code. So to have all the above with skill being a preference over a connection is pretty LOL. Advanced Warfare really was that bad with its connection (I liked the game otherwise) and I'm pretty sure it's why it died off so early with goons and everyone else. Especially when goons live in different places poo poo gets all wonky in matchmaking If CoD were a small or even medium sized title I would agree with you (good matchmaking from small player pools in a reasonable timeframe is bafflingly difficult). This is Call of Duty though, one of maybe five titles which have an active player base large enough to support multiple factors being taken into account when selecting lobby candidates. Now to be fair if you have a goon group that features one person in London and another in Aukland any connection system is going to flip the table, but there isn't much that can be done about that. I suppose when you split your playlists out into as many separate modes as they have it doesn't help, but you can have criteria active on a per playlist basis. It's just one of these problems that is hard to adequately model during development and never gets fixed really well post release (no profit motive to it, potential breakage risk high, best case scenario hardly anyone notices). Summary: Treyarch could totally get some of their good programmers on this and come up with a better but still imperfect solution.
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Your entire point is moot though because they never actually fix the poo poo netcode before moving to SBMM. Feel like they're skipping a couple steps but I digress
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deathmerc posted:According to the lamers on reddit they've implemented SBMM, anyone noticed a change? They also believe the host switches between rounds of Dom. They're idiots, and it's easily debunked by just backing out, searching for another game, and checking the leaderboard.
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Jesus, there was literally 30+ threads over there on just SBMM. Is this poo poo completely unfounded or what? Didn't really notice anything last night around midnight.
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Dec 19, 2015 18:00
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Confirmation bias is a Hell of a drug.
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Mister Macys posted:They also believe the host switches between rounds of Dom. They're idiots, and it's easily debunked by just backing out, searching for another game, and checking the leaderboard. I hadn't heard this, but it actually kind of makes sense. Why is that crazy?
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Dec 19, 2015 18:32
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Cod can barely run normal games with the myriad settings and internet quality people have. It's an added level of expense, time, and complexity that makes no sense when total per match time averages less than ten minutes.
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Dec 19, 2015 18:39
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i have no idea what any of your are on about but let me tell you this: the decision of which to use in the winner's circle, Ha Ha or Cash Money, is causing me a lot of emotional distress
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Dec 19, 2015 18:48
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I have Cash Money on a few Specialists, and it just isn't that great. Ha Ha all the way.
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the best one is the flex one as it is impossible for the entire animation to finish in the post match screen
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Dec 19, 2015 18:55
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Making it rain as a robot owns. Also, I tried out the Nightmare mode because it apparently gives out crypto keys (?) and it's just s replay of the campaign with zombies that literally spawn out of thin air and kill you in 3 hits. It is incredibly loving stupid.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Making it rain as a robot owns. Also, I tried out the Nightmare mode because it apparently gives out crypto keys (?) and it's just s replay of the campaign with zombies that literally spawn out of thin air and kill you in 3 hits. Would you say it's a...nightmare?
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Dec 19, 2015 20:33
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Does anyone on here play hardcore mode? I'm AhChaChaCha on psn (ps the 4th edition) if anyone gets into that mode.
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so SBMM prioritizes SPM over connection? No wonder all the games I've played this week have felt like poo poo.
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What the hell is sbmm
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Dec 19, 2015 20:53
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It's not in BLOPS 3.  Skill-Based Match-Making. If you're getting tryhards, leave the lobby and hit Search again. This poo poo isn't complicated people.
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I'd rather get my balls stomped on by try-hards on a good connection than have a lagfest shadow boxing session with a group of people my same skill level.
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You'll get a lagfest or a great match regardless of whether the opponent is good or bad, because it doesn't restrict connection based on geography (like BLOPS 1). It's using the same garbage they had in BLOPS 2, where it tries to average best connection. But as Prime Time moves across the continent, it will be naturally biased towards locations with the highest amount of players (i.e, East Coast, followed by West Coast predominating). It has nothing to do with skill. A five second check of the Lobby Leaderboards will immediately make it apparent. The fact that you can go from playing complete losers, to a Youtube crew and back again in the space of a night, every night- should make it obvious. Hell, I posted the exact same idiot theory myself, the first week the game was out in this thread, and I've played against hundreds of much, much shittier players since. Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Dec 19, 2015 |
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Mister Macys posted:You'll get a lagfest or a great match regardless of whether the opponent is good or bad, because it doesn't restrict connection based on geography (like BLOPS 1). So are you saying they didn't actually introduce any SBMM last night? Friend of mine at 8th prestige is saying he hasn't gotten into a lobby over the last two hours with anyone below 4th prestige.
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Prestige /= skill. It's an indication of time played. If I were unemployed, I would be considerably higher than I am now. If you're a poo poo player, the match bonus you get will be higher than your actual score, so it's just a matter of putting in the time. Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Dec 19, 2015 |
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Mister Macys posted:If I were unemployed, I would be considerably higher than I am now. 420 emblems erryday
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saw my first power core in like 3 weeks. Put 2 and a bit clips in it before some prick walks up, unloads and gets the kill. loving game
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Mister Macys posted:If you're a poo poo player, the match bonus you get will be higher than your actual score, so it's just a matter of putting in the time. That makes a lot of sense, actually. I mean, some of the matches I tend to see fucknasty HUGE match bonuses. So yeah, I'm bad. Dalai Trauma posted:saw my first power core in like 3 weeks. Put 2 and a bit clips in it before some prick walks up, unloads and gets the kill. BlackCells, mang. 
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People getting mad at me for using the KRM. I love this game. How do I make this gun good? I keep shooting people and 99% of the time it takes a second shot to kill them. Push El Burrito fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Dec 19, 2015 |
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widespread posted:BlackCells, mang. I haven't ran one in...Well 3 weeks. As power core was the only thing left I needed for the master card I figured I'd use the point on something else. I am a moron, to confirm.
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Dalai Trauma posted:I haven't ran one in...Well 3 weeks. As power core was the only thing left I needed for the master card I figured I'd use the point on something else. It's a very useful thing if you got UAV/CUAV/any and all airships from the enemy team. It's a bit tricky to nail ground units, as well as the Care Package couriers though. I got more Scorestreak Kills than I do regular Kills.  BUBBA GAY DUDLEY posted:People getting mad at me for using the KRM. I love this game. Attachments wise? I want to say Long Barrel/Rapid Fire or something else? Does the spread tighten with more accuracy? EDIT: Those two seem to be good, as well as Fast Mags, Laser, MAYBE an Optic? widespread fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Dec 19, 2015 |
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widespread posted:Attachments wise? I want to say Long Barrel/Rapid Fire or something else? Does the spread tighten with more accuracy? What I figured. Long Barrel has to be like the last unlock for it. Oh well, I got an Epic Reaper skin. I just never play the Reaper!
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Dalai Trauma posted:i have no idea what any of your are on about but let me tell you this: the decision of which to use in the winner's circle, Ha Ha or Cash Money, is causing me a lot of emotional distress
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widespread posted:That makes a lot of sense, actually. I mean, some of the matches I tend to see fucknasty HUGE match bonuses. It scales with your level or something, I don't really get it. Right after prestiging I was getting match bonuses in the triple digits, now I'm like 37 and they're around 2k, but I remember right before hitting 55 they were close to 4k. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me
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Yeah it scales to level too. Ok i don't want to do rejack anymore, no one who isn't a drooling retard (this guy) knows you'll respawn and then they push your poo poo in. 10/20 and I'm sick of it. i've not even tried glitch yet but at least that gets you out of the drat way.
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Mister Macys posted:Prestige /= skill. It's an indication of time played. If I were unemployed, I would be considerably higher than I am now. I didn't say otherwise, but not getting dumped into lobbies with multiple <~40 first prestiges is gonna be a disappointment. teknetik fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Dec 19, 2015 |
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teknetik posted:I didn't say otherwise, but not getting dumped into lobbies with multiple <~40 first prestiges is gonna be a disappointment. Guess what happens at Christmas, boxing day, and new year's?  Remember when CoD 4 killed Xbox Live? 
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So xclusiveace is a cool dude on youtube who does informative cod vids that don't suck rear end, and he just did a video on suppressor/long barrel that saves me a lot of typing. He usually even gets most of his facts right! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbkRex-eJE0 Here's cool pics from it:     Some notes, I think I mentioned this before, but long barrel on Subs and Shotguns does nothing for max damage range. It only increases min damage range. Use Long Barrel on the Brecci and Haymaker, don't bother on Argus or KRM. The KN-44 is a special snowflake, and the best (only?) candidate for using a suppressor among automatic ARs. It never drops below 4 shots anyway, and its 3 shot kill range is still useful. I personally don't think long barrel is really useful on ARs in general, they all mostly already have ranges that are long enough that you'd rarely care about the extra distance, the KN-44 again being the only exception, but also getting less benefit. I'd rather run High Cal personally. Long Barrel + Suppressor is kinda cool I guess, but burning two attachments for that strikes me as meh when HC is taking up a slot that smgs don't need anyway, ymmv. All burst weapons are good candidates for suppressors. This includes the XR-2, M8A1, Pharo, and 48 Dredge. Reason being, it frequently takes two bursts to kill anyway, it usually won't affect you up close when you're trying to shotgun a sub user, and unless they changed damage numbers, the Dredge should still be capable of one bursting. The one possible exception is the XR-2 due to its kinda hinky horizontal recoil, but I like that gun more at close-mid range anyway. Oh, High Caliber on ARs for almost any gun will still shave 1 shot off the shots to kill even with a Suppressor, I think the only exception might be the ICR at longer range, but I'm too lazy to test that, go do it yourself  And finally, don't suppress the other LMGs, it drops their damage range to absolute poo poo, like a 90% reduction, unless you enjoy 3 shot Gorgon, 4 shot BRM and 5 shot Dingo.
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Alright, so Fast Mags and Rapid Fire are your go-to for the KRM. Unless you really want that accuracy, in which case either trade out Rapid Fire for Laser Sight, or consider Primary Gunfighter... assuming Rapid Fire doesn't reduce hipfire accuracy. But yeah, I think I'll stop running Ante Up and Hard Wired on all my classes since the guy you linked pointed out that Quickdraw/Fast Hands is very palatable. ... but, what'd be some better Perk 1 or Perk 3 choices all around? Blind Eye and/or Afterburner? Ghost?
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What's the best way to check if it's a double do weekend or one is coming? Their twitter?
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widespread posted:... but, what'd be some better Perk 1 or Perk 3 choices all around? Blind Eye and/or Afterburner? Ghost? Perk 1: Ghost or Flak Jacket Perk 3: Dead Silence + Awareness Anything else is scrub tier
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Streaming right now group of guys being terribad. come insult us please thanks http://www.twitch.tv/the_fuzzinator
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Anyone on? Pubbies are bad. PSN = tekneticc
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Joined a match late and ended up playing against Scump from Optic. Guess that must mean that they put SBMM back in the game  
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