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He also beats one of the main characters into unconciousness pretty convincingly despite bleeding out of a gaping hole in his gut, shortly after killing one of the main characters from the previous trilogy. I mean, does he need to win the whole movie before his dick is big enough to impress you?
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jivjov posted:I mean; would Kylo Ben have to be pointing right at someone and saying "I will now cut you to pieces" for it to be a threat in your mind? No, he'd have to do something legitimately threatening, and not do anything that makes him laughable. It's really quite simple. Lots of the latter, none of the former. End result? The movie's Bad Guy being equal parts Dr Claw and Genghis Rex from the 1987 cartoon Dinosaucers*. Its legitimately the only downside to a movie that's otherwise quite enjoyable. * Not the best analogy, I concede, since GR does take over Our Heroes home base in the cartoon, once.
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Dec 20, 2015 03:18
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Does anyone have the complete list of names for the Black Squadron pilots?
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MisterBibs posted:No, he'd have to do something legitimately threatening, and not do anything that makes him laughable. It's really quite simple. Lots of the latter, none of the former. End result? The movie's Bad Guy being equal parts Dr Claw and Genghis Rex from the 1987 cartoon Dinosaucers. Its legitimately the only downside to a movie that's otherwise quite enjoyable. He does plenty of "legitimately threatening" things in Episode VII. I'm starting to suspect you haven't actually seen the movie.
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Dec 20, 2015 03:20
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I have to say, I loved how Kylo kept punching himself in the side after getting shot there by Chewie during his fight with Finn and Rey. Like, "gently caress YOU, PAIN, STOP GETTING IN MY WAY!" It's just such a Kylo Ren thing to do, something really silly that a brooding teenager would definitely think is TOTALLY BADASS, only the person doing it is powerful and murderous enough to still be a threat to the heroes. If the chemistry between Finn, Rey, and Poe hadn't been so great, Kylo would have been hands-down my favorite part of the movie 
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Dec 20, 2015 03:20
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Mods please replace all of MisterBibs' posts with the Family Guy donkey.
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hiddenriverninja posted:Does anyone have the complete list of names for the Black Squadron pilots? Poe Dameon. That's it. He's Black One; everybody else is Red or Blue
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Dec 20, 2015 03:20
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jivjov posted:He does plenty of "legitimately threatening" things in Episode VII. I'm starting to suspect you haven't actually seen the movie.
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Dec 20, 2015 03:22
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jivjov posted:I'm starting to suspect you haven't actually seen the movie. I could say the same thing about you, because I simply cannot fathom how anyone found him threatening at all. I guess it boils down to higher/lower tolerances for silliness; I'll leave it at that if you will.
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^- Oh for gently caress's sake, you're complaining about a man from Star Wars being silly? Silliness? In this famously grim-faced series? Pfft, I'll go back to the Empire Strikes Back and watch a giant war machine trip and fall on its face.MisterBibs posted:No, he'd have to do something legitimately threatening, and not do anything that makes him laughable. What is this obsession with being 'laughable'? Darth Vader, The Emperor, every variety of walker, hell, the entire goddamn Empire - I could very easily call all of those just as or more laughable or ridiculous as anything Ren does.
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Dec 20, 2015 03:23
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MisterBibs posted:I could say the same thing about you, because I simply cannot fathom how anyone found him threatening at all. I guess it boils down to higher/lower tolerances for silliness; I'll leave it at that if you will.  if your definition of "silly" involves killing people and flying off the handle with deadly weapons on a regular basis.
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Dec 20, 2015 03:26
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MisterBibs posted:Absolutely, as a special effect. As a sign of power, not really, since we just had a bad guy a few movies ago take one to the hand. And yes, I did laugh at that scene since it had two stormtroopers trundling over to the Shocked Hero and put him down with a punch and a kick. That would be really loving stupid, actually.
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MisterBibs posted:I could say the same thing about you, because I simply cannot fathom how anyone found him threatening at all. I guess it boils down to higher/lower tolerances for silliness; I'll leave it at that if you will. Nothing Kylo does is in any way "silly". Edit: unless you decide to completely ignore any semblance of context.
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What I found threatening was the close-ups of Chewie's fingers.
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turtlecrunch posted:What I found threatening was the close-ups of Chewie's fingers. Oh thank god I wasn't the only one distracted by how weird that looked.
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Dec 20, 2015 03:32
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I can't think of ever seeing his hands that closely in the OT...did he always have fingers like that?
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He had to have fingers, but I don't think we ever saw them.
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Hazo posted:Are we supposed to be concerned with the fate of Captain Phasma? Nobody seems to be really talking about what happened after she unceremoniously disappeared from the movie following her capture and I don't think we're supposed to believe Han or Finn is sadistic enough to actually execute her in a garbage compactor. They wouldn't get a major actress from Game of Thrones unless they planned on using her for more than 2 minutes.
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Dec 20, 2015 03:40
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Guys, remember when Leia poo poo talked Vader to his face and then he ended the movie spinning upside down looking all confused? Haha, what a dork.turtlecrunch posted:What I found threatening was the close-ups of Chewie's fingers. Holy poo poo I had the same reaction to wookie digits.
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:They wouldn't get a major actress from Game of Thrones unless they planned on using her for more than 2 minutes. Phasma is confirmed for Episode VIII. My personal guess is that she'll be excommunicated from the First Order, potentially on Kylo Ben's hit list, and out for revenge on Finn.
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:They wouldn't get a major actress from Game of Thrones unless they planned on using her for more than 2 minutes.
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:They got major actor Daniel Craig and used him in a cameo that lasted a minute or less. That was a Craig's request though, if I understand it correctly. They didn't seek him out for casting.
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Dec 20, 2015 03:53
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People who wanted Kylo Ren to be Darth Vader 2.0 are dumb.
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jivjov posted:Again, ableist slurs are really not necessary. Stop being a idiot retard Rageaholic Monkey posted:They got major actor Daniel Craig and used him in a cameo that lasted a minute or less. Craig was the guard who got mind tricked yeah? He was just a guard, Phasma is a named character in a badass new storm trooper suit we haven't seen yet, shes not going to die without some serious development in 8, although it would be pretty fun if they got a got actor in just to kill them off instantly imo. E: Are spoilers still necessary for a thread no one is going to read without seeing the movie? underage at the vape shop fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Dec 20, 2015 |
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Dec 20, 2015 03:59
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Disney should be making a stand alone Poe Dameron / Black Squadron movie. Forget about young Han / Boba Fett.
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:
MisterBibs is the manliest man to ever manhandle a manly movie review, you wouldn't understand because he's so manly that anything that isn't cartoonishly stoic is just silly, and dumb because he's literally a one-dimensional person and expects no less from his movie characters. Silly things like a murderous short temper and superhuman powers aren't scary, because the character in question has oily skin and is young which means that MisterBibs could beat him up because he's older. Therefore it's not a good villain. Boon fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Dec 20, 2015 |
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:Craig was the guard who got mind tricked yeah? He was just a guard, Phasma is a named character in a badass new storm trooper suit we haven't seen yet, shes not going to die without some serious development in 8, although it would be pretty fun if they got a got actor in just to kill them off instantly imo. They gave him more development in the prequel trilogy than he ever got in the original trilogy and that was loving stupid and unnecessary.
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Well Boba Fett was just a dude in a badass suit who died a hilarious death without being given much development, so it's not like it would be unprecedented. It's been a long time since I saw the other movies but the way Boba is handled vs Phasma is completely different. Phasma is an important part of a main characters back story and former life, Bobas just a bounty hunter.
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Also, I had to look up the word "ableist" but how in the gently caress can anyone consider a genetic deformity NOT an aberration from the norm?
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:Stop being a idiot retard Why are slurs necessary to you?
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A Saucy Bratwurst posted:It's been a long time since I saw the other movies but the way Boba is handled vs Phasma is completely different. Phasma is an important part of a main characters back story and former life, Bobas just a bounty hunter.
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jivjov posted:That was a Craig's request though, if I understand it correctly. They didn't seek him out for casting. I'd be surprised if they even paid him. Strikes me like it was a "I wanna be in star wars!" situation.
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Overall, film's good but I'm disappointed it wasn't more self contained. Star Wars was self contained because who knew it would be popular, Phantom Menace has some foreshadowing but also tells a complete story in one movie. This feels like it was made safe in the knowledge that there would be sequels. Some of the new characters get shortchanged as a result, notably Lupita Nyong'o's. Like, she's some kind of sage, but not like Yoda, also she owns a bar? What archetype are we aiming at here? Similarly I feel like we're missing out on just what went wrong after Endor. Obviously there were still going to be people loyal to the Empire, but what enabled them, who's this Snoke guy, where are they getting all this cool star-destroying stuff? Also it's kinda disappointing that after however long this is supposed to be they haven't really come up with any new ship designs beyond "slightly different X-Wings" and "slightly different Tie Fighters".
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Caros posted:I'd be surprised if they even paid him. Strikes me like it was a "I wanna be in star wars!" situation.
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Well Manicured Man posted:If the chemistry between Finn, Rey, and Poe hadn't been so great, Kylo would have been hands-down my favorite part of the movie When Poe and Finn find out one other is alive after their TIE fighter crash, that was the bro-est loving moment and I loved every second of it. "That's my jacket" Finn starts to take it off "No, no keep it. It suits you." loving If I had one complaint about TFA, it's that I wanted to see way, way more of Poe and Finn together.
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teagone posted:When Poe and Finn find out one other is alive after their TIE fighter crash, that was the bro-est loving moment and I loved every second of it. "That's my jacket" Finn starts to take it off "No, no keep it. It suits you." loving
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Well Manicured Man posted:I have to say, I loved how Kylo kept punching himself in the side after getting shot there by Chewie during his fight with Finn and Rey. Like, "gently caress YOU, PAIN, STOP GETTING IN MY WAY!" It's just such a Kylo Ren thing to do, something really silly that a brooding teenager would definitely think is TOTALLY BADASS, only the person doing it is powerful and murderous enough to still be a threat to the heroes.
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Fish Of Doom posted:I'm reminded why I never go to the theater. There was a guy sitting behind me who was commenting on stuff through out the whole movie. It was mostly saying, "Aw, poo poo," literally anytime anything even moderately exciting happened, or was introducing characters incorrectly (Keelo Ren, 3P-CO, R2-BB, Captain Fantasia), but would occassionally just turn into him narrating what was happening on screen "Oh he she force tricked him and he dropped his gun. Now she's going to escape." "R2D2 woke up, now they're bringing the map together" Do you know if he was there with a blind person? A classmate of mine from high school was blind and a friend of his would take him to the theater and then describe to him anything happening on screen that couldn't be derived through audio.
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jivjov posted:Why are slurs necessary to you? Stop dude, some of your posts are good and you have okay opinions about TFA but you need to realize you are on the internet
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TheFallenEvincar posted:Huh? I thought that was some Dark Side poo poo, like "I AM USING THIS PAIN!!!!". I mean, it might be, but punching your wounds out of frustration/spite seems like a pretty Kylo thing to do. teagone posted:When Poe and Finn find out one other is alive after their TIE fighter crash, that was the bro-est loving moment and I loved every second of it. "That's my jacket" Finn starts to take it off "No, no keep it. It suits you." loving    
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