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TheFallenEvincar posted:The weird thing about the Dollop is it's more of a history podcast for me than a comedy podcast. Like, I enjoy Dave and Gary, but they're not really like, stunningly amazing comedians I've realized over the duration of this show (which I do love). I mean they're okay, they're not the type of humorists I'd normally be listening to on a podcast. They just kind of do these clunky jokes about retarded people and the Irish and sometimes funny accents, very VERY basic poo poo, it's just that the premise of the show and the historical stories are just so great that it carries (sometimes) average to mediocre banter. I mean don't get me wrong, when it hits it hits, Dave and Gary have had me roaring in laughter before, but often I'm just like silently processing a failed meandering jokey joke of theirs and waiting for them to get back into the story. Yeah I pretty much agree with all of that. Edit: Wow. Glad I could start a new page with my fascinating contribution.
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It's great when it's a familiar story but with some new development you hadn't heard of.
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As the second poster on this page, I also agree.
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Dec 10, 2015 22:34
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That episode just made me wanna go to a Sears-Atari coke party. 
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The funny thing is that the Atari story, while crazy and amazing, really pales in comparison to the sega/nintendo console wars of the late eighties/early nineties which happened almost immediately afterwards Like id love to see Dave and/or gareth react to bullshit like "genesis does what nintendon't" or NIntendo's ludicrous chokehold on the console market after the Atari implosion or the crazy nonsense that happened behind the scenes between segas of America and japan or how sega, against all odds, was able to carve out market share against the big n only to make a trifecta of the worst business decisions ever with 32x, CD, and Saturn, or the crazy congressional hearings that almost destroyed both companies and eventually ended up making the esrb Even the end to the Nintendo/sega beef is just great since it boils down to these two giants at each other's throats spending ludicrous time and money trying to destroy the other only for a spurned ex-girlfriend of both of them, some little-known Japanese hardware company called sony, came onto the screen and destroyed both effortlessly with a little thing called the playstation
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I'm kind of disappointed they didn't go a little bit beyond E.T. and didn't explain how it helped cause the great videogame meltdown, I would've also loved to hear a little bit about the Jaguar catastrophe and eventual fizzling out. They could've extended the episode by 20 minutes easily.
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I dunno. Garry really ended on the best possible punchline. The cocain and the landfill made this story special. Corporate fuckups alone aren't really all that funny to me. 
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It was okay enough for a Reverse Dollop but the fact that Dave even knew of the potential existence of a videogame landfill is already knowing too much info about the story for me. People doing cocaine in the 80s is funny, not surprising, the E.T. Landfill had to be the surprise punch to the story. drat though when he was describing Videogame Frustration in a Preinternet World it sure was spooky. I'm always tabbing out and being like "What/Where the gently caress is the tiny thing I need to click on so I can get out of this goddamn room????", I can't imagine the horror
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when it comes to crazy videogame stories, pretty much everything after ET is much more interesting than what came before. I mean, Sega's whole "extreme" attitude with Sonic all tappin' his feet and poo poo helped usher in the cultural sensibilities of the 90s, and it's pretty much the only reason that Sega even had a chance against the dual monsters of the NES and SNES. Sega was able to market itself as cooler and edgier which is what the 90s were all about And then you get stuff like same-day announcement and release of the Saturn, or the implosion and death of the Dreamcast and Sega as a console manufacturer, or Microsoft's hilariously mixed entry into the console market: going from a technically revolutionary but deadweight system that they immediately abandoned in favor of a forced, immediate upgrade to the seventh generation that was so accelerated and so jumping-the-gun that microsoft ended up having to pay literal billions in hardware failures. But it still worked because of Sony's $600 price tag and dumb poo poo like the "working two jobs"comment and the 18 month advantage that the 360 had, combined with the revolutionary improvements to Live reversing Microsoft's fortunes to go from distant last place to clear first place and definitive dominance in a nine-year span. Which Microsoft then somehow pissed away all of that goodwill in, like, gently caress...a two month timespan? with the announcement of the policies they were implementing in the Xbone permanently, irrevocably tainting their brand in a way that they'll never recover from this console cycle. Like the Xbone poo poo is so crazy and such an amazing confluence of the worst possible business decision made at every possible time one could make a business decision that Sony ended up getting heaps of crazed praise simply by literally going "yeah, we're...not gonna do any of that"
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Ignoring everything that you guys are saying about unrelated video game companies which is silly and pointless for a dollop about Atari, I would have loved for Gareth to talk about the death throes of Atari, like the Jaguar, with its awful dumb controller, or how Atari turned into a sad, wet fart of a company by the end that was shuffled from parent company to parent company until now, when it is making lovely old copies of Atari products and casino games and has a staff of 10 people. That coulda been really good.
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Toxxupation posted:when it comes to crazy videogame stories, pretty much everything after ET is much more interesting than what came before. I mean, Sega's whole "extreme" attitude with Sonic all tappin' his feet and poo poo helped usher in the cultural sensibilities of the 90s, and it's pretty much the only reason that Sega even had a chance against the dual monsters of the NES and SNES. Sega was able to market itself as cooler and edgier which is what the 90s were all about That stuff is interesting in a History Of Videogames sense, but compared to other dollops the Atari story lines up better. The 599 US dollars and always online xbone stuff is dumb and funny in their own context, but it's not like Kaz Hirai and Don Mattrick were doing rails of coke in an abandoned roller rink. If anything there's some large chunks of the Atari story that were left out, like how the people actually making the games for the 2600 made almost no money off them and got no credit, or the real sputtering tail end Atari stuff like a couple of people have mentioned.
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Enormous companies faltering a little in marketing and slipping to second place in their industry, but still making billions of dollars, is not an interesting story. The crazy Swedish mafia network and Ferrari-wrecking drama behind the otherwise-forgotten Gizmondo? 1 2 Closer to Dollop material imho, and that still might not be enough for a decent episode.
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I have a feeling the reason Gareth's story stops at the landfill is that most of his reverse Dollops are based on documentaries he's watched, like Atari: Game Over for this or Project Nim for the last one.
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Maduo posted:That stuff is interesting in a History Of Videogames sense, but compared to other dollops the Atari story lines up better. The 599 US dollars and always online xbone stuff is dumb and funny in their own context, but it's not like Kaz Hirai and Don Mattrick were doing rails of coke in an abandoned roller rink. If anything there's some large chunks of the Atari story that were left out, like how the people actually making the games for the 2600 made almost no money off them and got no credit, or the real sputtering tail end Atari stuff like a couple of people have mentioned. Sure I can see that, but if that's the bar then the 90s console wars stuff fits totally into that box. it had kalinske paying for a plane to fly a banner that said "Buy a Genesis" specifically over a spot where Nintendo executives were playing golf! so petty, and weird
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Is there a place to read up on the Xbone fiasco? Sounds like some prime schadenfraude.
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Sexual Aluminum posted:Is there a place to read up on the Xbone fiasco? Sounds like some prime schadenfraude. lmao
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Hearing Gary mispronounce Al Alcorn's name is painful. Anyone who likes this episode really ought to check out The Ultimate History of Video Games by Steven Kent. Kent hasn't updated the book in 15 years, but the early history is very good.
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Welp you wouldn't ever catch me listening to Stop Podcasting Yourself (or basically anything on MaxFun not involving the McElroys, and honestly I'm like five eps behind on all of their series so I might even be out of that phase) but hopefully they make good guests...
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I love Stop Podcasting Yourself. I think it's the funniest "some guys talking about whatever" type podcast I listen to. But it seemed like they kinda struggled to get into the rhythm of The Dollop. Especially Dave, who really didn't say a lot. Graham seemed to get more comfortable as it went along.
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TheFallenEvincar posted:Welp you wouldn't ever catch me listening to Stop Podcasting Yourself (or basically anything on MaxFun not involving the McElroys, and honestly I'm like five eps behind on all of their series so I might even be out of that phase) but hopefully they make good guests... I was going to defend Maximum Fun, but then I looked at the roster, and said "Well, I like the IDEA of some of these podcasts, but don't actually listen to any of them".
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Stop Podcasting Yourself and The Dollop are pretty much my two favorite podcasts behind The Best Show but I'm a half hour into the live Dollop and I don't know how great of a match it is. Still, glad to see Dave and Gary came to Canada... now they just need to come to Toronto.
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Didn't Dave study environmental science in university? How has he never seen the word "archipelago" before?
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:Didn't Dave study environmental science in university? How has he never seen the word "archipelago" before? Maybe he had seen it and didn't ever hear it spoken out loud before?
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rotinaj posted:I was going to defend Maximum Fun, but then I looked at the roster, and said "Well, I like the IDEA of some of these podcasts, but don't actually listen to any of them". Decent ep though, anyway.
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10 CENT BEER NIGHT! I just started this poddy, and I am dying. Love it. Thanks for the recommendation thread!!
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rotinaj posted:I was going to defend Maximum Fun, but then I looked at the roster, and said "Well, I like the IDEA of some of these podcasts, but don't actually listen to any of them". I had high hopes for Wham Bam Pow when it started because Cameron & Rhea are great on other stuff and I love bad action movies and people making fun of them. That show is such a wet fart though.
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Got a NYC ticket! Good excuse for me to finally go check out The Bell House, too.
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So @thedollop and @daveanthony don't seem to exist on Twitter anymore. Wonder if Dave threw another tantrum.
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He picked a fight with Anthony Cumia and his awful twitter community.
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ahahaha, details? The Dollop is one of the podcasts I started listening to when ol' Sheets Cumia went full-on 14 words and his former show turned into a lump of jello.
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So wait does Cumia have the power to turn OFF twitter accounts?!
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So what did he say to unleash the wrath of Cumia's Fuckwad Army?
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is their Facebook page gone too? I can't find Dave's page either.
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I picture Dave so blinded by anger he's not even thinking "I COULD just turn off notifications of people tweeting at me instead of flipping out and scorching the earth." Edit: the Reddit page appears to still be there, but that doesn't get a lot of traffic
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Cumia tweeted some 2nd amendment meme thing overnight, Dave tweeted something to the effect of of was there an amendment for hitting your partner. Anthony threatened to talk about Dave on his show, Dave said he would do a Dollop about Cumia. Tried to fave the last tweet but think Dave had turned off his account by then.
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Dave has some serious anger/self control issues. Who gives a poo poo if a broken racist radio nobody talks about him.
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cumia is a literal racist girlfriend beating piece of poo poo, with possibly the worst fandom ever that make total assholes like gamergate look reasonable is dave an overreactionary baby? yes, he totally loving is. was he totally loving justified in doing what he did and reacting how he did to save his mental sanity, at the very least, not even mentioning how he'd probably get a legion of loving death threats and outright violence-threatening abuse from cumia's shithead followers, encouraged by his rear end in a top hat leadership? yes like seriously nobody should be on cumia's side here. the sympathy should rest entirely with dave and i'd rather him delete all of his social network profiles over have another meltdown spurred on by crazy, awful assholes
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TheFallenEvincar posted:Never heard of the dude but he looks like the type who should have been nipped in the bud by school bullying decades ago Anthony Cumia is the kind of guy who would've been bullied as a kid but learned all the wrong lessons and doubled down on why he deserves to get bullied in the first place.
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