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Double Bill
Jan 29, 2006

Wooper posted:

It's funny how in career mode, apart from starting in a poo poo mini, you have to run the gauntlet of uncontrollable RWD cars while you l2p before you can get into the real deal, 4WD cars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPze5pP8B9c

The gauntlet continues into Group B too, at least if you buy the 205. Despite being 4WD that thing is terrifying with the new physics.

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njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Things don't really get 'safe' until you reach group A.

E: I would encourage everyone to go read the PC Gamer review if you want a crash course in horrible writing. I try not to be that person but I am legitimately wondering if he actually played the game when he starts talking about buying upgrades.

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Edmond Dantes
Sep 12, 2007

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Guys. Guys. GUYS.



My first green segment. :D



Bloody hell, that was a horrible read.

PC Gamer posted:

The cars look different, sound different, but they feel incredibly similar and lacking any real, unique character. They have similar weight, similar grip, similar gear ratios. Swapping from a '70s rear-wheel-drive Stratos to a 2010 Fiesta will come with faster times and a more responsive, stable car, but it's not enough, and cars in the same groups are barely distinguishable
Loved that bit, especially after coming in here yesterday and posting about how utterly terrifying the switch from the 60s Cooper to the 70s Escort was. :v:

Sininu
Jan 8, 2014

Apparently he has played it for just 3 hours.

Edit: I just played with headphones for first time and I hear so much new stuff now. Like chainsaw noise in the background in Wales which feels really homely

Sininu fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Dec 19, 2015

bUm
Jan 11, 2011
Only glanced at the concluding statements and was amused to see him say the Richard Burns fans would have to keep waiting (forever), despite the fact that many of them have taken to promoting Dirt Rally as a must have and spiritual successor.

That reminds me: now that I have a wheel, I no longer have an excuse to not at least give RBR a shot (aside from still learning/acclimating to Dirt Rally with it).

Jehde
Apr 21, 2010

Yeah Dirt Rally is what made me finally uninstall RSRBR. RBR still has its place, but it's very much the old school of sim racing and it's so nice to have a fresh new sim.

Wooper
Oct 16, 2006

Champion draGoon horse slayer. Making Lancers weep for their horsies since 2011. Viva Dickbutt.
I hope you don't mind me posting videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jF4l_PmoKzY

I finally got into the nice handling cars.

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Renounced
Nov 8, 2005


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For as much as this game likes to auto-recover my car sometimes, I'm shocked it let me get away with my latest off-track adventure in Germany.

http://www.gfycat.com/AjarElasticArctichare :shrug:

Shine
Feb 26, 2007

No Muscles For The Majority

Renounced posted:

For as much as this game likes to auto-recover my car sometimes, I'm shocked it let me get away with my latest off-track adventure in Germany.

http://www.gfycat.com/AjarElasticArctichare :shrug:

Co-driver just calmly checking his notes like it's all good.

Red_Fred
Oct 21, 2010


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Renounced posted:

For as much as this game likes to auto-recover my car sometimes, I'm shocked it let me get away with my latest off-track adventure in Germany.

http://www.gfycat.com/AjarElasticArctichare :shrug:

That was excellent, looked like you just planned a quick shortcut through the spectators.

Thief
Jan 28, 2011

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RWD cars are fun :snoop:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3do8r5XnTxU


Anyway, I hope to see them eventually add some of the older :japan: cars like the Celica:



RX-7:


...or even 240RS:


I dunno what the plans are for DLC or whatever but it'd be nice if they keep bringing new content to this game instead of just jumping right into making a sequel.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


I remember they were asked about the Celica and the response was there's no chance it will ever happen.

Renounced
Nov 8, 2005


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njsykora posted:

I remember they were asked about the Celica and the response was there's no chance it will ever happen.

Now this game will never be as good as Sega Rally Championship.

bUm
Jan 11, 2011

Renounced posted:

For as much as this game likes to auto-recover my car sometimes, I'm shocked it let me get away with my latest off-track adventure in Germany.

http://www.gfycat.com/AjarElasticArctichare :shrug:
Pretty badass recovery, I especially like the tree dodge before returning to the road.

Thief posted:

I dunno what the plans are for DLC or whatever but it'd be nice if they keep bringing new content to this game instead of just jumping right into making a sequel.
Sounded like they won't be adding any content until the console versions release, which are tentatively scheduled for April 2016.

Agreed though, really hope they use the interim time to prepare for another set of content on the Dirt Rally platform whether it comes free or as DLC (or a bit of both). Guess yesterday's Road Book stated it'd be the last of the year so I guess more details about the future of Dirt Rally remains shrouded (apparently they are having a Christmas special post-patch stream some day though, that might touch on it because hopefully they don't just spend an hour+ on just looking back).

Red_Fred
Oct 21, 2010


Fallen Rib

njsykora posted:

I remember they were asked about the Celica and the response was there's no chance it will ever happen.

Did they give a reason for this?

Jehde
Apr 21, 2010

Toyota and Renault are dicks with their licensing.

Also:

Jehde posted:

Still wishin for a Safari Rally + Nissan Classics pack.




Triple A
Jul 14, 2010

Your sword, sahib.
If they add the RX7 in, they should also add the 323 GTX for the Group A category as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3p4H568njY

Skwee
Apr 29, 2010

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Your FoV is loving ridiculous

Thief
Jan 28, 2011

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Yeah, I dunno if FOV is tied to the specific car because in the other ones I can just see the tips of my feet and it seems much closer to the wheel.

Skwee
Apr 29, 2010

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Thief posted:

Yeah, I dunno if FOV is tied to the specific car because in the other ones I can just see the tips of my feet and it seems much closer to the wheel.

you could just lower your FoV to like whatever 0.2 in this game means and have way more informative things on your screen than 50% inside of your car, 30% outside of your car but not information you need, and 20% the road ahead of you.




dash came helps too, but that is probably personal preference.

Shine
Feb 26, 2007

No Muscles For The Majority

Thief posted:

Yeah, I dunno if FOV is tied to the specific car because in the other ones I can just see the tips of my feet and it seems much closer to the wheel.

What he's referring to is how "zoomed out" your view is, even if the cockpit were invisible. The conventional wisdom with racing sims says to narrow the FOV from its default in most games to reduce the "objects in mirror monitor are closer than they appear" effect, but there's a lot of personal preference to that (peripheral vision, comfort, etc.). There are :words: about it in the PC Sim Thread.

Independent of the FOV, you can adjust the "seat" position in each car. This doesn't change how zoomed in or out the world itself looks, but you can slide your fake seat forward so that you are closer to the windscreen and see less of the interior.

Shine fucked around with this message at 13:34 on Dec 20, 2015

Skwee
Apr 29, 2010

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Shine posted:

What he's referring to is how "zoomed out" your view is, even if the cockpit were invisible. The conventional wisdom with racing sims says to narrow the FOV from its default in most games to reduce the "objects in mirror monitor are closer than they appear" affect, but there's a lot of personal preference to that (peripheral vision, comfort, etc.). There are :words: about it in the PC Sim Thread.

Independent of the FOV, you can adjust the "seat" position in each car. This doesn't change how zoomed in or out the world itself looks, but you can slide your fake seat forward so that you are closer to the windscreen and see less of the interior.

there's also this simple video guide (that is linked to in that post)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yYeiAHsdr0

Thief
Jan 28, 2011

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Thanks for pointing this out. I must have instinctively maxed out the FOV when I first started the game up because years of cyber dogfighting in BF109s has made forget that actually seeing what's in front of you is a thing. It's funny I'm doing this after completely dialing in the Stratos/E30 to my exact winding path preferences.

Edmond Dantes
Sep 12, 2007

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I tried setting the FoV using the calculator and method here, and modifying the .xml files is doing jack poo poo, except that if I force eyefinity to 3x1 as it states there it squishes my hud in the middle of the screen; but the FoV is not changing.

Are you guys chaning via the ingame slider? Tried setting that to 0.7 and at least it did something, but I have no idea what that translates to in angles.

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

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Do you have tripple monitors? If you're using a single why are you messing with eyefinity?

Edmond Dantes
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Norns posted:

Do you have tripple monitors? If you're using a single why are you messing with eyefinity?

To manually set the FoV (couldn't find the slider since it was under profile/preferences instead of video options) and I kept finding references to that page via google. It says that it should work for single monitors, but I wasn't able to get it working.

Found the slider now, but have no idea what "0.7" means so I thought I'd ask what you guys were using, if you were changing it at all. v:v:v

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

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In use the ingame slider for single monitor FOV adjustment, and then move the cockpit around till it's comfortable.

I eyeballed mine since I set my FOV slightly higher than the calculators say I should be on a single display.

Irae
Nov 19, 2011
I decided I should get my last promotion (Elite to Masters) by getting good at cars, so I will do it on the Lancia 037.

... why did they make this thing, and who did actually drive it on a real road. I usually do better on asphalt and terrible on gravel, with this I died in Germany and did not that bad in Finland, which is usually my most hated event. This car will murder me and I will love every second of it.

Jehde
Apr 21, 2010

I'm going to do the same eventually, once I have that sort of time to put into the game again.

You're hosed once you get Sweden.

Triple A
Jul 14, 2010

Your sword, sahib.

Irae posted:

I decided I should get my last promotion (Elite to Masters) by getting good at cars, so I will do it on the Lancia 037.

... why did they make this thing, and who did actually drive it on a real road. I usually do better on asphalt and terrible on gravel, with this I died in Germany and did not that bad in Finland, which is usually my most hated event. This car will murder me and I will love every second of it.

Markku Alén. He actually managed to come third in the Group B championship with it in 1983 and '84 with a few victories in his name.

Renounced
Nov 8, 2005


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Are there any clear winners when it comes to Group A cars like the 205 T16 in Group B? I'm ready to step out of Group B for a bit as the white knuckle pace is really exhausting.

Praseodymi
Aug 26, 2010

Renounced posted:

Are there any clear winners when it comes to Group A cars like the 205 T16 in Group B? I'm ready to step out of Group B for a bit as the white knuckle pace is really exhausting.

Delta 4 lyfe.

Triple A
Jul 14, 2010

Your sword, sahib.

Renounced posted:

Are there any clear winners when it comes to Group A cars like the 205 T16 in Group B? I'm ready to step out of Group B for a bit as the white knuckle pace is really exhausting.

You should know by now that if you pick a Lancia, you'll do well.

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Apr 29, 2010

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I'd prefer a car that is fun to drive rather than being a "clear winner"

You could always go into non-career races to just drive anything you want to see what you like the most.

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are. You are destiny.


Every Lancia is a clear loser for a lot of people, and tons of fun to drive.

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Sep 12, 2007

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Renounced posted:



Your avatar dances to the main menu's music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAjvmXRr51w
(starts at ~1m or thereabouts).

Renounced
Nov 8, 2005


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Praseodymi posted:

Delta 4 lyfe.

Praseodymi posted:

Delta 4 lyfe.
But the Cosworth has 7 gears, doesn't that mean it has one more speed than the Lancia? :downs:

Edmond Dantes posted:

Your avatar dances to the main menu's music.
Thanks for this delightfully random observation.

Also thought I'd try showcasing how slow I can drive in a Group B car. I think I hit 4th maybe once? I had no idea stages could be this narrow. Greece :argh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P2BIphu-AA

Edmond Dantes
Sep 12, 2007

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Renounced posted:

But the Cosworth has 7 gears, doesn't that mean it has one more speed than the Lancia? :downs:
You joke, but when I was about to buy my motorcycle I was deciding between a Honda and a Yamaha, and the guy from the shop said "but the Honda has a 6th gear!" to try and convince me to buy that one over the Yamaha (The Yamaha is a better bike actually, but that particular model was not being imported anymore so I ended up buying the Honda :( )

Renounced posted:

Thanks for this delightfully random observation.
Hahaha, I had the forums open on my secondary monitor and noticed it.

Irae
Nov 19, 2011

Renounced posted:

But the Cosworth has 7 gears, doesn't that mean it has one more speed than the Lancia? :downs:


I don't know about that, the only sure thing is I can't drive it with the H-shifter so it will probably be the last car I ever try out. Are there any more in the game with 7 gears not meant for sequential?

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njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Interesting thing, there's going to be a Sebastian Loeb Rally demo out on Thursday on Xbone and PS4. That's a long way from release so clearly Milestone think they have something.

E: No you forgot the Road Book. Nothing much major here this week, but a lot of really interesting stuff about the AI. Within the 5 difficulties there are 75 different possible skill levels all based around the fastest developer time. So AI not only have a base level of speed, but the game can also calculate them being better in certain countries and on certain surfaces, as well as how much they're affected by rain and night stages. Its a really interesting read and there's way more going on under the hood than just 'these 3 guys are always on top'.

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