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Jefferson/Clinton. Jefferson had recognized the need for a strong central government by the time he ran for reelection, so I'm honestly not sure it even will matter.
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# ? Dec 14, 2015 05:49 |
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Proposition Joe posted:Rufus King seems to be have been born in Massachusetts, so it seems as though the Federalist Party will be getting my vote once again. Where once we did away with a King, you bring one back!
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# ? Dec 14, 2015 10:13 |
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King/Clinton I guess but there aren't alot of good options here. Jefferson is just too much of a poo poo person for me to vote for.Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Federalist til I die
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# ? Dec 14, 2015 10:20 |
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Good grief at all these single-issue voters fixated on banning
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# ? Dec 14, 2015 11:06 |
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Just so those of you voting Jefferson for his lukewarm abolitionism know, even when he's right he can find a way to be real loving wrong.
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# ? Dec 14, 2015 13:32 |
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This garbage loving election made me vote for Jefferson
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# ? Dec 15, 2015 02:50 |
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Jeffersons only hope of winning was to pass that bullshit 12th amendment, John Adams forever!
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# ? Dec 15, 2015 03:00 |
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It doesn't matter who you elect on slavery because that shits gonna ride around for another half a century anyway. The momentum from the south is just too powerful.
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# ? Dec 15, 2015 05:51 |
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Gentlemen, I propose that that we adopt a method of “tagging” our publications so as to make them more visible to like‐minded patriots. I suggest we use the index (☞) for this purpose. ☞gentlycaressthesouth
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# ? Dec 15, 2015 06:05 |
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we're gonna get beat the gently caress up and shot
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# ? Dec 15, 2015 06:07 |
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The honorable Mr. Jefferson might appear to be what the youth refer to as, and I quote, "a creeper." But at least he is his own man, with his own unique aesthetic with regards to fashion and equivocating on slavery. The continued flailing of the Federalists is just sad, really depressing. These two toadies should go back to the old world they love so much, tbh.
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# ? Dec 15, 2015 17:31 |
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Only one candidate in this election is an icon of American funk music vote Democratic-Republican
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# ? Dec 16, 2015 05:03 |
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drat, as far as a unified timeline is concerned there's really no way to justify John Jay not participating this time around is there?
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# ? Dec 16, 2015 08:06 |
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If a dude wants to retire after two terms of VP and a term of president, then so be it. He also served as chief justice for four years between his VP terms, he's tuckered out. Lycus has issued a correction as of 08:22 on Dec 16, 2015 |
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RagnarokAngel posted:It doesn't matter who you elect on slavery because that shits gonna ride around for another half a century anyway. The momentum from the south is just too powerful. I could see the South freaking out if Adams had been the first president as this thread had done. The civil war would already be happening, probably in response to the Whiskey Rebellion, and we'd be living in Adams' monarchy. Platystemon posted:Gentlemen, I propose that that we adopt a method of “tagging” our publications so as to make them more visible to like‐minded patriots. I concur! In celebration please examine this attatched lithograph of my quite fancy new pantaloons. ☞carpediem ☞macaroni ☞commonsense foobardog has issued a correction as of 11:20 on Dec 16, 2015 |
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reignonyourparade posted:drat, as far as a unified timeline is concerned there's really no way to justify John Jay not participating this time around is there? In addition to what has already been said, Jay's health was in decline by this point in history and he really wanted to retire from public life. Given his exhaustion and a likely desire not to end his Presidency as a humiliated has-been, like Adams, Jay's retirement is understandable. Depending on how these next few elections play out, I could see a single-term, anti-incumbent trend emerging. The community's failure to elect Washington is probably the harder event to explain. The only explanation I can think of is Washington coming down with his near-fatal case of pneumonia a year ahead of schedule and the delegates electing Adams to avoid crisis right out of the gate. After that, it's just a matter of Adams being inoffensive enough to make Washington believe he is no longer needed. Adams opposes slavery, but he isn't as much of a hardliner on it as his son is. QuoProQuid has issued a correction as of 12:13 on Dec 16, 2015 |
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Because I will be preparing for a Christmas party, the next election posting will probably be delayed to noon tomorrow. In the meanwhile, please check out American Sphinx by Joseph Ellis and Madison's Hand by Mary Sarah Bilder. American Sphinx is one of the definitive biographies on Jefferson. Ellis goes into intimate detail on Jefferson's day-to-day life without falling prey to Jefferson's almost mythic status. Madison's Hand is an analysis of Madison's notes on the Constitutional Convention. It is a fascinating look into the Convention's inner workings and Madison's attempts to rectify his early Federalist-leaning views with his later position in the Democratic-Republican Party. I have borrowed both for reading over the holiday season and am thrilled to finally get the opportunity to read them. As always, if you have a book or resource that is relevant to the American Presidency/ elections as a whole, let me know and I will add it to the opening post.
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 05:25 |
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Thank you all for voting. In a landslide, Thomas Jefferson has been elected President. Jefferson promises to end the last decade of Federalist tyranny. RESULTS BREAKDOWN Most popular tickets: 1. Thomas Jefferson / George Clinton (Democratic-Republican) – 57 votes (69.5%) 2. Charles Cotesworth Pinckney / Rufus King (Federalist) – 25 votes (30.5%)
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 19:35 |
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ELECTION OF 1808 Click here to vote in the Election of 1808! Background: The election of 1808 takes place in the aftermath of a largely successful Jefferson administration. Though the Democratic-Republicans have diffused most of the major issues facing the country, a small faction remains dissatisfied. These individuals, known as the “Old Republicans” or “tertium quids,” accuse Jefferson and Madison of betraying their promises to strengthen state governments and avoid abusing the Constitution. This faction has coalesced around James Monroe, whose opposition to Jefferson has become well-known within the party. Other major issues this election are the Bank of the United States, whose charter will expire in 1811, America's foreign relations, the size of the military, and the Trial of Aaron Burr. The Candidates: DEMOCRATIC-REPUBLICAN PARTY CANDIDATES: Presidential Nominee James Madison
Vice Presidential Nominee George Clinton
Vice Presidential Nominee John Langdon
FEDERALIST PARTY CANDIDATES: Presidential Nominee: Charles Cotesworth Pinckney
Vice Presidential Nominee Rufus King
Presidential Nominee: James Monroe
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SPECIAL NOTE ON THE ELECTION OF 1808: As you may have noticed, there are several oddities about the tickets this election. In determining the winners, I will count the Presidential and Vice Presidential votes separately. That means that if "James Madison / N/A" comes in first and "Charles Cotesworth Pinckney / Rufus King" comes in second, the winner will be "James Madison / Rufus King." Please feel free to vote strategically to get the ticket you want. I apologize for the delay. Happy Holidays.
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 19:41 |
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The hell with it, James Monroe come on down!
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 19:42 |
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where my federalists at ride till i die (pinckney/king)
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 19:48 |
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Goddamn these elections suck.
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 19:54 |
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this is probably the period where america came closest to being a one-party state so i guess it makes sense
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 19:55 |
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troubled teen posted:Goddamn these elections suck. I blame Aaron Burr.
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 19:55 |
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Clinton gets my vote for VP. He ain’t great, but that coward Langdon would let the British
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 20:09 |
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oystertoadfish posted:this is probably the period where america came closest to being a one-party state so i guess it makes sense no that would be the era of good feelings when we actually were a one party state
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 20:14 |
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oh i thought we were already there sorry
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 20:17 |
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literally everyone is a slaver or slavery apologist sooystertoadfish posted:where my federalists at
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 20:31 |
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My daddy was a federalist and Ill die a federalist too!
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 20:35 |
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What oystertoadfish said.QuoProQuid posted:I blame Aaron Burr. You are the worst, Burr.
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 20:37 |
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RagnarokAngel posted:My daddy was a federalist and Ill die a federalist too! plus, nothing beats Pickney's ensemble
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 20:56 |
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James Monroe seems to be the least odious man of them all, so he's got my vote.
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 21:11 |
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Hey QPQ, I think you need to have words with the typesetters. They've inserted an image of Thomas Pinckney alongside his father CC, whose own picture has found its way to George Clinton's bio. Of course I am sure that my fellow voters, learned and wise as they are, would never be swayed by a candidate's mere physical appearance. (This thread is great by the way, keep it up.)
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 21:36 |
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Rufus King believed that the cold weather helped New Englanders live longer than the slovenly people of South Carolina, which is why he was OK with the House of Representatives being based on population. Might also explain his eagerness to serve as VP in the Pinckney administration....
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 22:43 |
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oystertoadfish posted:where my federalists at
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 22:48 |
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Is this our first chance to vote for a Third Party candidate? Cause I think I feel like wasting my vote on Monroe
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 23:10 |
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Takanago posted:Is this our first chance to vote for a Third Party candidate? Cause I think I feel like wasting my vote on Monroe Monroe is an enemy of progress and centralization. Vote Federalist for a strong central democracy. Any man who would strike down the Bank of the United States is unable to understand the realities of the American economy.
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 23:18 |
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I dunno, I heard from some people that Centralized Banking is basically slavery. And since the people who love the bank also love slaves, that doesn't seem too far-fetched to me...
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 23:29 |
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counterpoint: white americans deserve to be enslaved
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# ? Dec 20, 2015 23:31 |