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Did even an entire day pass between Luke meeting Obi-wan and him dying?
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Hell Yeah posted:also thought it was weird how rey and finn reacted to han solo being killed they just met him like half hour ago Finn had hero worship real hard, but I'm not sure about Rey. I guess Kylo said something about him being the father she never had when he read her mind but I didn't really get where that came from.
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rey was mad flipping out about meeting Han solo, THE smuggler pilot so I think it's fair to say she had some hero worship going on too and had just found out that legends die just the same as everyone else. I thought it was a nice differentiating touch that rey knew him as a smuggler but Finn knew him, through his imperial upbringing, as a general of the rebellion
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you guys, kylo ren literally reads her mind and she sees/wishes him as the father she never had.
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I took it in part as Leia hugs Rey because she sees comfort where it's needed, because that's part of Leia's leadership style. She's been their General for decades because she knows what a solider needs and when - it's the antithesis of Phasma and Finn's interaction at the beginning of the film - and doesn't see need of comfort as a weakness. Until it's stated otherwise I consider Leia Force-sensitive, so it can also be explained she innately knew from once Force-user to another, but I like that explanation less. I got a touch of Fury Road's Vuvalini from the hug (and think of Jakku as a Mad Max-ish world). That hug was the one moment that got me unexpectedly emotional. Oh wait, I'm supposed to say "herf derf goons don't get emotions bleep boop" 
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Aesop Poprock posted:He's the best and most likeable new character in the film. Hans still the best character overall though. I didn;t like him after I saw the movie late at night for the first time. Then Yesterday morning I went again with a friend who wanted someone to go with and I ended up liking him the most on 2nd viewing. Boyega made Finn a guy other dudes want to dude it up with, be they old dudes like Han, cool dudes like Poe, Hairy dudes like Chewie and even robo dudes like BB-8 Best thumbs up ever, BB-8 is a pro-level wingman for going with it
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ITT we speculate on what ridiculous new lightsaber, staff, whip, potato cannon everyone gets in 8
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I just want an animated gif of the thumbs up between Finn and BB-8 because that is some awesome buddy stuff. Also I got a feeling that Poe was possibly going to be Wedge's kid but when the original actor turned down reprising the Wedge role, ruled it out.
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Ringo Star Get posted:I just want an animated gif of the thumbs up between Finn and BB-8 because that is some awesome buddy stuff. I was very disapointed not to see wedge anywhere. I also thought that dudes name was Bo and am disapointed that it's not as well
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The moment between Poe and Kylo when they first met was the moment I knew the movie was going to be great.
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First character to get a robot appendage? My money is on Kylo
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Leia had Force-pain when Han died. Rey was the last person off the Falcon and is also recently awakened in the Force. I didn't really think it was much of a stretch that they realized that they just experienced a huge loss and needed someone to share that with. edit: sorry I'm a bit behind the thread
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Booblord Zagats posted:First character to get a robot appendage? From the looks of it Finn is gonna need a robot spinal cord
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Chill la Chill posted:This isn't part of the new movie so no need for spoiler quotes. It's an obvious misapplication or misunderstanding of physics terms. The EU existing to use mental gymnastics to explain it instead of the more intuitive explanation is why we're in this thread laughing about EU and the lovely people that love it (except for the one or two actually good books of course Really, there's no reason why "The Kessel Run" couldn't be something measured in distance. I like the "Han was lying" explanation best, but there's plenty of ways it could have been a real thing with distance units. On the other hand, the explanation Anderson came up with didn't make a whole lot of sense. "12 parsecs" is a macro-astronomical unit, the sort of thing that would measure the distance between various stars. So how does "I flew closer to the black holes in the Kessel system" explain it? When your measurement is on the order of forty light years, cutting it closer like that is a rounding error. It's like saying "I crossed the Pacific Ocean in less than 8,000 miles by skirting through the shallows of Hawaii." Yeah, the units make sense, but the method isn't different enough to explain anything. Also, I'm indecisive on the existence of "a cluster of black holes." On the one hand, I doubt there's any way that could even exist. On the other hand, they say the people in universe don't understand it either. I kind of like the idea that, even in this far-off future, sometimes we still find things that make us say "poo poo, I don't know." Then again, wouldn't everyone in the system be fried by the radiation?
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TK-42-1 posted:The moment between Poe and Kylo when they first met was the moment I knew the movie was going to be great. i don't know if I would've loved an "aren't you a little short for a stormtrooper?" Moment. There was already a lot of dumb callbacks and I'm glad they kept away from having new-Porkins die or have Ackbar yell a surprised tactical insight but I feel this may have been a good one.
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the kessel run / parsec thing is actually used as an indicator of autism I am sincerely surprised how many people prefer the black hole explination over the fact that a smuggler was lying
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Jurgan posted:Really, there's no reason why "The Kessel Run" couldn't be something measured in distance. I like the "Han was lying" explanation best, but there's plenty of ways it could have been a real thing with distance units. On the other hand, the explanation Anderson came up with didn't make a whole lot of sense. "12 parsecs" is a macro-astronomical unit, the sort of thing that would measure the distance between various stars. So how does "I flew closer to the black holes in the Kessel system" explain it? When your measurement is on the order of forty light years, cutting it closer like that is a rounding error. It's like saying "I crossed the Pacific Ocean in less than 8,000 miles by skirting through the shallows of Hawaii." Yeah, the units make sense, but the method isn't different enough to explain anything. He's trying to say the ship is fast. "Is my boat fast? I can cross the pacific in under 8,000 miles" means there's some implication there that I'm missing. Black holes at least do make sense in that context since escape velocity is a thing. If a cluster of stars can exist I don't see why a cluster of black holes cannot since they are basically the same thing until you get really close to them. What's it got to do with radiation? He's still a lying 'stand your ground' type murderer. Modest Mao fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Dec 21, 2015 |
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Modest Mao posted:the kessel run / parsec thing is actually used as an indicator of autism I think its funny that anyone gives that line a second thought.
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So, uh, EU nerds, what happened to the sepratists after the third movie? Did they join the rebellion or did they all just die?
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The Skeleton King posted:I think its funny that anyone gives that line a second thought. What I took from the line is that Lucas didn't know what a parsec was outside of space and that's it.
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Panzeh posted:So, uh, EU nerds, what happened to the sepratists after the third movie? Did they join the rebellion or did they all just die? Vader killed the leaders and since it was all droid armies there was no armed resistance.
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Hell Yeah posted:also thought it was weird how rey and finn reacted to han solo being killed they just met him like half hour ago Made sense to me. Han got pretty much executed in cold blood. That would make most normal people react like that even if they barely knew the guy Jurgan posted:Really, there's no reason why "The Kessel Run" couldn't be something measured in distance. I like the "Han was lying" explanation best, but there's plenty of ways it could have been a real thing with distance units. On the other hand, the explanation Anderson came up with didn't make a whole lot of sense. "12 parsecs" is a macro-astronomical unit, the sort of thing that would measure the distance between various stars. So how does "I flew closer to the black holes in the Kessel system" explain it? When your measurement is on the order of forty light years, cutting it closer like that is a rounding error. It's like saying "I crossed the Pacific Ocean in less than 8,000 miles by skirting through the shallows of Hawaii." Yeah, the units make sense, but the method isn't different enough to explain anything. I'm willing to give most of the bad astronomy a pass. After all, this is a movie where you see an entire star system get destroyed from light years away (presumably) and it looks like it's happening in orbit. Also, all of the planets in that star system look closer to each other than the Earth and the moon.
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Modest Mao posted:He's trying to say the ship is fast. "Is my boat fast? I can cross the pacific in under 8,000 miles" means there's some implication there that I'm missing. Black holes at least do make sense in that context since escape velocity is a thing. Eh, fair enough. Modest Mao posted:If a cluster of stars can exist I don't see why a cluster of black holes cannot since they are basically the same thing until you get really close to them. What's it got to do with radiation? I'm not sure a bunch of stars can all collapse at once in the same place. And don't most black holes give off enormous amounts of radiation? Isn't it impossible for life to exist in the galactic core for that reason. Modest Mao posted:He's still a lying 'stand your ground' type murderer. What would you suggest- he politely ask Greedo to please not shoot him?
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muscles like this? posted:What I took from the line is that Lucas didn't know what a parsec was outside of space and that's it.  . 'Alien' is chock full of bullshit dialogue that doesn't make sense if you pay attention to what's being said. The backbone of the cyberpunk genre was written by authors who weren't computer science or programming experts, but it didn't matter because neither were their audience.
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alriiight nerds, I've heard about the EU bugnest orgy for years and I just need to know what the gently caress that's referencing. I'll even settle for a star wars wikia link. It's driving me insane not understanding
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This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!
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Panzeh posted:So, uh, EU nerds, what happened to the sepratists after the third movie? Did they join the rebellion or did they all just die? basically their are a few holdouts, a few still have fleets and they gently caress with the empire on and off for a few years but get mopped up pretty much by dodanna and Screed and bunch of others. the survivors either went underground or joined the new rebellion. 
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DeusExMachinima posted:alriiight nerds, I've heard about the EU bugnest orgy for years and I just need to know what the gently caress that's referencing. I'll even settle for a star wars wikia link. It's driving me insane not understanding http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dark_Nest_Crisis
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Panzeh posted:So, uh, EU nerds, what happened to the sepratists after the third movie? Did they join the rebellion or did they all just die? Most of 'em got nationalized by the Empire so they were too ingrained in the New Order to rise up against the government. Other holdouts like Gizor Delso from Battlefront 2 had Vader's Fist slam down on them. Others still joined with pirate factions like the Zann Consortium (Hypori Droid Foundries) or sided with the Rebellion.
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I gave reading that an honest shot, I really did. 
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Mr.Pibbleton posted:I gave reading that an honest shot, I really did. quote:Also at this time, Jacen Solo discovered he was a father of a baby girl named Allana—the year before, he had convinced Tenel Ka to send a Hapan battle fleet to help the Killiks, but her price was that he spend a night in bed with her. She became pregnant, but used the Force to slow her pregnancy so that her nobles would not think that Jacen was the father. I'm glad they flushed this garbage and started something actually good.
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Jurgan posted:Eh, fair enough. Black holes draaged in to position by a giant tractor bean
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quote:Joiner, or pejoratively bughugger and bugslut, was the name given to the non-Killiks who were absorbed into the Killik hive mind. Good job Denning, you wrote a weird porno.
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TK-42-1 posted:I'm glad they flushed this garbage and started something actually good. Granted I'm not interested enough to blind-buy each book as it comes out like I did with the old EU for a very long time. Comments in the Star Wars comics thread in BSS seem to be that a lot of the new comics are cool, I might look into those if they start doing omnibus collections. I'm also wondering if/when Star Wars video games are going to pick up again. Battlefront was a bit of a wet fart, 1313 got canceled, and the last big Star Wars game was, like, The Force Unleashed 2.
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Booblord Zagats posted:http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/The_Maw  Lovecraft and Star Wars do not go together!
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Xenomrph posted:I'm honest to god interested to see how the "new EU" shapes up, since it's a largely clean slate. Will they selectively "re-activate" some of the old books or sources (KOTOR/Tales of the Jedi era stuff or things like Shadows of the Empire seem like possible candidates for this)? Will they do "Ultimate Marvel" style re-tellings of old EU stories, but with a firm editor in place to pump the brakes on lovely ideas? Or just all new stuff? KOTOR and other Bioware stuff is questionably still canon. Bioware was the only company doing SW stuff that didn't specifically get a "u r not canon" message from Disney after the buyout, and apparently when they tried to get some clarification Disney remained intentionally vague. The old EU stuff is basically Ultimate Marvel now, it exists and is acknowledged but is not canon. They call it "Legends" now. I wouldn't be surprised if there are new entries into Legends even with the new canon being an open book for the most part. The new comics are pretty decent, give em a shot. 1313 may yet live if rumors are to be believed. Disney's making more money than they even imagined off the franchise and they'd be morons not to take advantage of every avenue they have to reap fanboy dollars. I'm pretty sure there's also a 1313-style TV series in the works as well.
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Vahakyla posted:Why was there a resistance and a republic at the same time? Because Star Wars demands the good guys be outgunned underdogs and this movie wasn't terribly creative.
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Vahakyla posted:Why was there a resistance and a republic at the same time? First Order and New Republic have a tenuous peace. Leia says "gently caress that", forms a Resistance, and the NR helps them a little on the side. Think Lend-Lease prior to the US entry into WW2.
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