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"No you see SEC, it was totally an act! I got you good!"
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Because if you loving kill someone you should be punished for loving killing someone. That person is dead. They don't exist anymore. And you (living Nevvy Z's fantasy world) get to run around on probation because well shucks you had a bad roll of the dice but that's okay. "human life has value" is a wishy-washy, nonfalsifiable thing to say that let's you justify whatever you want; how much is a dead person worth that you need to destroy someone else's life to preserve it's value? justify punishment based on deterrence, incapacitation, restitution, or vindication if you really want. I mean if they intended to kill someone, yeah sure that's something you want to signal out as very bad behavior, but giving a harsher punishment because a reckless jackass was unlucky, rather than because they were a reckless jackass, serves no purpose beyond petty vengeance. e: like claiming the "value" of human life must be preservedis the same kind of logic that abortion bombers use i can imagine this isn't a popular viewpoint, though Tiler Kiwi fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Dec 21, 2015 |
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Dec 21, 2015 15:17
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Wanna see how the "lol trolled u" defense works in a court of law
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Dec 21, 2015 15:22
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Dr Cheeto posted:Wanna see how the "lol trolled u" defense works in a court of law "your honor, I just wanna say... praaaaanked!" *cameraman leaps up from the gallery, everyone starts cracking up* "oh man i got you bro, i got you!!"
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Dec 21, 2015 15:27
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Tiler Kiwi posted:"your honor, I just wanna say... praaaaanked!" *cameraman leaps up from the gallery, everyone starts cracking up* "oh man i got you bro, i got you!!" I call to the stand...Ashton Kutcher!
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Dec 21, 2015 15:29
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Was Protecting Americans from Tax Hikes (PATH) passed/signed into law?
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Dec 21, 2015 15:32
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Tiler Kiwi posted:"your honor, I just wanna say... praaaaanked!" *cameraman leaps up from the gallery, everyone starts cracking up* "oh man i got you bro, i got you!!" 
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Dec 21, 2015 15:42
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http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/21/politics/lindsey-graham-2016-campaign-drops-out/ Lindsey Graham suspends his campaign
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Dec 21, 2015 15:47
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RepubliCAN DO posted:http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/21/politics/lindsey-graham-2016-campaign-drops-out/ Other dominoes fall today? This week? Jeb is just blowing through millions with no ROI.
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Dec 21, 2015 15:49
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http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/12/20/tip-leads-bomb-squad-to-man-suspected-of-making-bombs-in-richmond-home-to-harm-muslims/ So that guy in Richmond who made the suspected bomb is a 55 year old Donald Trump supporter. Police received a tip that he was building a bomb and was going to blow up some Muslims. Still not a terrorist.
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Dec 21, 2015 15:54
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Tiler Kiwi posted:"human life has value" is a wishy-washy, nonfalsifiable thing to say that let's you justify whatever you want; how much is a dead person worth that you need to destroy someone else's life to preserve it's value? justify punishment based on deterrence, incapacitation, restitution, or vindication if you really want. That's kind of where I was going with this. We go back to the goal of justice. If the goal is anything other than vengeance then it shouldn't matter if someone died as a result of the reckless action. If 5 guys decide to form a firing squad with 4 blanks and 1 bullet we should punish them all equally. If someone is spinning the, uh, spinny bit of their revolver and pointing it at a kindergarten it shouldn't matter if there are 1 or 6 bullets in the gun.
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Dec 21, 2015 16:01
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RepubliCAN DO posted:http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/21/politics/lindsey-graham-2016-campaign-drops-out/  I'm actually sad about this, but I guess Rand Paul's  campaign isn't worth trolling anymore. I was hoping to see Kasich drop out first, though.
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Dec 21, 2015 16:02
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It's hard to police intent. That's at least part of why consequences matter. I don't really like the notion that it's just luck that dictates whether a drunk driver kills someone or not. There are degrees of recklessness, it's not a binary thing.
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Dec 21, 2015 16:03
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LeeMajors posted:Other dominoes fall today? This week? Today was the last day Graham could drop out if he wanted his name removed from the SC primary ballot, so this is him avoiding embarrassment in his home state. None of the other candidates have that same pressure, though Huck might want to avoid embarrassment in Iowa.
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Dec 21, 2015 16:06
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Lessail posted:the local media is salivating at the thought of it being terrorism Got to be vigilant for the defense of the homeland, citizen. 
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Dec 21, 2015 16:08
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Joementum posted:Today was the last day Graham could drop out if he wanted his name removed from the SC primary ballot, so this is him avoiding embarrassment in his home state.  I read that after my post. Getting tripled up by The Donald™ in this shithole state full of racist scumbags would've been hilarious and devastating for everyone favorite Bipolar Southern Aunt.
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Dec 21, 2015 16:09
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LeeMajors posted:Other dominoes fall today? This week? On the contrary, isn't this how Jeb will win the nomination? He just stays in longer than anyone else, and his numbers will go up as picks up supporters from everyone that drops out ahead of him.
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Dec 21, 2015 16:10
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Vienna Circlejerk posted:
The best part is Graham tooting his own horn saying his campaign was a wild success as he drops out
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Dec 21, 2015 16:13
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gradenko_2000 posted:On the contrary, isn't this how Jeb will win the nomination? He just stays in longer than anyone else, and his numbers will go up as picks up supporters from everyone that drops out ahead of him. Rubio would need to drop out too for sure and if JEB had that scandal evidence bullet he would have fired it by now.
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Dec 21, 2015 16:13
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gradenko_2000 posted:On the contrary, isn't this how Jeb will win the nomination? He just stays in longer than anyone else, and his numbers will go up as picks up supporters from everyone that drops out ahead of him. JEB! also thought at this point in the race it was going to be him and Scott Walker duking it out for top spot. The GOP Presidential candidates only have a tenuous connection to our reality at this point.
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Dec 21, 2015 16:14
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CommieGIR posted:The best part is Graham tooting his own horn saying his campaign was a wild success as he drops out He did succeed. His whole point was to shift the debate to national security and delegitimize rand Paul. The first was achieved by recent events and the second was achieved by Rand Paul
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Dec 21, 2015 16:15
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In Texas if a drunk driver kills your wife can you shoot him in the back for taking your property?
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Dec 21, 2015 16:18
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gradenko_2000 posted:On the contrary, isn't this how Jeb will win the nomination? He just stays in longer than anyone else, and his numbers will go up as picks up supporters from everyone that drops out ahead of him. Honestly it's looking more and more like even if it were down to Jeb! and Trump, Trump would still crush Jeb!. The establishment's base would just stay home as the Trumptroopers would all come out and vote. For that to work Jeb! would need a voterbase wayyyy more excited than whatever he has left is.
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Dec 21, 2015 16:18
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gradenko_2000 posted:On the contrary, isn't this how Jeb will win the nomination? He just stays in longer than anyone else, and his numbers will go up as picks up supporters from everyone that drops out ahead of him. Well a new Iowa poll came out yesterday with Jeb at 2% so his numbers only have one way to go!
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Dec 21, 2015 16:18
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Dr Cheeto posted:It's hard to police intent. That's at least part of why consequences matter. Most legal codes I know of imput intent for you if you kill someone while drunk. It makes it work easier.
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Dec 21, 2015 16:20
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Joementum posted:Today was the last day Graham could drop out if he wanted his name removed from the SC primary ballot, so this is him avoiding embarrassment in his home state. None of the other candidates have that same pressure, though Huck might want to avoid embarrassment in Iowa. Honestly forgot that Huckabee is a candidate this cycle.
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Dec 21, 2015 16:22
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Stultus Maximus posted:Honestly forgot that Huckabee is a candidate this cycle. He's too busy eating Gay Hater Cakes or whatever in Indiana and skulking around Kim Davis' office to matter.
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Dec 21, 2015 16:24
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Joementum posted:Huck might want to avoid embarrassment in Iowa. Huckabee wrote a diet book, got super fat again and decided to run for president. He gives no fucks.
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Dec 21, 2015 16:34
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Well a new Iowa poll came out yesterday with Jeb at 2% so his numbers only have one way to go! Down?
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Dec 21, 2015 16:38
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gradenko_2000 posted:On the contrary, isn't this how Jeb will win the nomination? He just stays in longer than anyone else, and his numbers will go up as picks up supporters from everyone that drops out ahead of him. The pity gently caress strategy, but with political nomination.
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Dec 21, 2015 16:40
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DrProsek posted:Trumptroopers
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Raerlynn posted:Down? 1% here we come!
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Dec 21, 2015 16:48
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Kilroy posted:I wonder if this is one of those words we're going to see in history textbooks in 100 years, assuming there are any history textbooks in 100 years. It's doubtful Donald Trump will be remembered except as a footnote to the election of the first female president.
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Kilroy posted:I wonder if this is one of those words we're going to see in history textbooks in 100 years, assuming there are any history textbooks in 100 years. "Mi'lord, the Imperial Trumptroopers have breached the outer wall!" Hmm, yeah, checks out. Stultus Maximus posted:Honestly forgot that Huckabee is a candidate this cycle. On average he's actually polling just about as high as Kaisch, Fiorina, and Paul. Goddammit we won't be free of any of them (let alone Christie) until at least Iowa, huh  Just one more month, just one more month...
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Dec 21, 2015 16:51
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:What's worse: drunk driving, or getting an Uber and thereby being a willing participant in labor abuses and the dismantling of the regulatory state? What if it's just "light uber riding"????
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Dec 21, 2015 17:04
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computer parts posted:It's doubtful Donald Trump will be remembered except as a footnote to the election of the first female president. Combed Thunderclap posted:"Mi'lord, the Imperial Trumptroopers have breached the outer wall!"
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Kilroy posted:I wish I shared your pessimism regarding his chances in the general election. I don't think it's likely he would be elected President, should he get the nom, but it's far from certain IMO. A few bad quarters and a major terrorist attack with a body count in the mid-hundreds would probably swing it. Well fortunately there's only four more quarters until the election and the chance of a major terrorist attack is less than the Giants winning the Super Bowl this year.
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Dec 21, 2015 17:06
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MC Nietzche posted:JEB! also thought at this point in the race it was going to be him and Scott Walker duking it out for top spot. The GOP Presidential candidates only have a tenuous connection to our reality at this point. For some reason, I'm reminded of the WWF's Brawl For All, their attempt at a boxing/shootfighting tournament. "Dr. Death" Steve Williams was expected to sleep his way through the whole thing, but instead got his rear end handed to him by Bart Gunn of all people. The entire thing was an embarrassment, ruined multiple careers, and completely hosed up the narrative storytelling angle that the company had been trying for. Reality tends to do that.
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Dec 21, 2015 17:12
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Let's see, major terrorist attacks on US Soil Over the Last 100 years...
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Rhesus Pieces posted:Well a new Iowa poll came out yesterday with Jeb at 2% so his numbers only have one way to go! The same poll has him in 6th in NH, behind Kasich. 
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