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codenameFANGIO
May 4, 2012

What are you even booing here?

pathetic little tramp posted:

I honestly don't think he's going to fall to the wayside like Rubio either because he's sufficiently anti-immigrant and knows all the evangelical codewords. I think it's Cruz v Trump up until the convention where Trump is the clear winner and the RNC screws him anyway.

On the upside if they do that Trump tears up the contract like Hulk Hogan's shirt and we get an entertaining-as-hell three way battle where the GOP loses catastrophically :getin:

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pathetic little tramp
Dec 12, 2005

by Hillary Clinton's assassins
Fallen Rib

Gynocentric Regime
Jun 9, 2010

by Cyrano4747

eviltastic posted:

Forgive the derail: I could use a recommendation for a USPOL-esque book that's come out recently. I'm getting someone Jim Crow's Last Stand, but could use a backup gift. My own reading preferences are terrible, so I'd appreciate a suggestion.

If he doesn't already have it I'd recommend The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness by Michelle Alexander. It's talks about the non-unanimous verdicts and convict leasing issue but as part of a larger pattern that ties into modern mass incarceration.

zeroprime
Mar 25, 2006

Words go here.

Fun Shoe
Cost of running a country many times greater than cost of seeing a movie. What stunning insight and perspective.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

And none of that spending bill is going to pay Cornelius's salary any more because he lost to Spaceman Bill :laugh:

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
This discussion on CNN could create a singularity that turns into a plane-eating black hole.

eviltastic
Feb 8, 2004

Fan of Britches

baw posted:

The OP contains several recommendations

I was angling for something that came out this year, but thanks for the reminder; looking again there's one of the Pearlstein books that I don't think he has.

Thanks folks!

esto es malo
Aug 3, 2006

Don't want to end up a cartoon

In a cartoon graveyard

Joementum posted:

Chelsea Clinton just announced she's pregnant again and expecting in the summer, probably during the convention as a stunt to steal all of Bernie's delegate support!!

debbie wasserman schultz!!! :argh:

Adar
Jul 27, 2001

DynamicSloth posted:

Ted Cruz is now the favorite to win the Republican nomination according to predict.org bets.

This is the first time Rubio has fallen off of the lead since October. The betting market had really fallen to a three way tie between Rubio, Cruz and Trump. I'd be hard pressed to come up with better percentage break downs than 33/33/33 myself (that's certainly more realistic than whatever 538 is pushing).

The betting markets are free money because they are reactive, not predictive. To be one step ahead of them and be predictive you have to look at paths to victory for each candidate, but these aren't hard to figure out. Cruz is spiking so hard because he's executing his path, which basically goes "win Iowa, hope to run competitively in NH, win SC, shut down Trump and feast on his corpse, coast" much better than anybody else is executing theirs.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

I've been having a blessedly ignorant time away from the forums last few days, but thought this article would act as a nice capstone in the shrekeli saga

Martin Shkreli's Arrest gives Drug Makers Cover

quote:

In fact, in some ways, Mr. Shkreli, chief executive of Turing Pharmaceuticals, has taken the heat off other drug companies.

Most drug companies do not increase prices fiftyfold overnight, as Mr. Shkreli did.

But they often increase prices 10 percent or more a year, far faster than inflation. And those 10 percent increases — on drugs for common diseases like diabetes, high cholesterol and cancer — have a far bigger impact on health care spending than the 5,000 percent increase on Turing’s drug, Daraprim, which might be used by about 2,000 people a year facing possible brain damage from a parasitic infection called toxoplasmosis.
“Because he played the part so well of the evil Wall Street hedge fund guy, Martin really drew attention away from the more serious issues with much bigger dollar impacts,” said John Rother, chief executive of the National Coalition on Health Care, a Washington organization concerned with drug prices. Its members include medical societies, insurers, consumer groups and labor unions.

The arrest and indictment will buttress the efforts of more established pharmaceutical companies to distance themselves from the upstart Mr. Shkreli. They have been arguing that most companies do research to invent innovative new drugs, not merely acquire the rights to old ones and raise their prices.

“He is not us,” Kenneth C. Frazier, chief executive of Merck and chairman of the pharmaceutical industry’s main trade group, said this month at the Forbes Healthcare Summit this month. Now, pharmaceutical executives can look at the federal indictment and say that Mr. Shkreli is an aberration, a rotten apple.

But his arrest is not likely to make concern about drug prices go away. First of all, Mr. Shkreli was arrested on charges of securities fraud stemming mainly from his time as a hedge fund manager, not for increasing the price of Daraprim to $750 a pill from $13.50. And his professed motivation — charging high prices to get money to spend on developing new drugs — is not all that different from that of other pharmaceutical companies.

Just a year ago, the public outrage was over Sovaldi, a new hepatitis C drug being sold by Gilead Sciences for $1,000 a pill, or $84,000 for a course of treatment. The drug was a true innovation, curing the disease in 12 weeks with few side effects. But so many people wanted treatment that the drug racked up sales of $10.3 billion in 2014, shattering the sales record for a first-year drug and straining the budgets of state Medicaid programs, private insurers, prisons and the Veterans Health Administration.

Now, Gilead has been largely shoved out of the news by Turing and other companies with similar practices, most notably Valeant Pharmaceuticals International.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



He's 2015's Kony

Mitt Romney
Nov 9, 2005
dumb and bad
Adelson already getting benefits from his newspaper purchase:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/review-journal-editorial-adelson-ownership

quote:

The paper also published an exposé on Friday revealing that some of its top reporters received an "unprecedented" request while the Adelson family was in the process of purchasing the newspaper. Three reporters were asked to temporarily drop their assignments and devote all of their resources to monitoring the activity of three Nevada judges, one of whom was overseeing a case involving Adelson’s casino properties in Macau, off the coast of China.

SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

Epic High Five posted:

He's 2015's Kony
But we actually stopped this one!

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.
Adelson's just doing what any smart billionaire would do and buy a media outlet to use as a full blown propaganda and opponent-destroying outlet. There is zero chance of him or anyone like him ever answering for such actions either.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

eviltastic posted:

Forgive the derail: I could use a recommendation for a USPOL-esque book that's come out recently. I'm getting someone Jim Crow's Last Stand, but could use a backup gift. My own reading preferences are terrible, so I'd appreciate a suggestion.

American Torture by Michael Otterman, for maximum sadness.

Debt: The First Five Thousand by David Graeber for more detached disappointment

Christianity: The First Three Thousand Years by Diarmond MacCulloch for a mild sense of befuddlement at current Christian practices, for the mildest dip.

EDIT: Ta Nehisi Coates's latest book, Ferguson's Kissenger: The Idealist (full of what the gently caress moments), and of course Caro's Power Broker.

Shageletic fucked around with this message at 00:24 on Dec 22, 2015

Ofaloaf
Feb 15, 2013

Joementum posted:

This discussion on CNN could create a singularity that turns into a plane-eating black hole.

baw
Nov 5, 2008

RESIDENT: LAISSEZ FAIR-SNEZHNEVSKY INSTITUTE FOR FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY

eviltastic posted:

I was angling for something that came out this year, but thanks for the reminder; looking again there's one of the Pearlstein books that I don't think he has.

Thanks folks!

If you want stuff from this year there are The Nixon Defense and The Wilderness, but I haven't read either because I'm waiting for the paperbacks to come out. Heard good things about both tho

Of course if your friend doesn't have Invisible Bridge then that's the priority

Coheed and Camembert
Feb 11, 2012

baw posted:

If you want stuff from this year there are The Nixon Defense and The Wilderness, but I haven't read either because I'm waiting for the paperbacks to come out. Heard good things about both tho

Of course if your friend doesn't have Invisible Bridge then that's the priority

The Nixon Defense is entertaining, so is Being Nixon. I would also recommend the Woodward and Bernstein books, All The President's Men and The Final Days.

I also enjoyed Landslide by Jonathan Darman, if you are interested in learning about LBJ or Reagan.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

Shageletic posted:

I've been having a blessedly ignorant time away from the forums last few days, but thought this article would act as a nice capstone in the shrekeli saga

Martin Shkreli's Arrest gives Drug Makers Cover

Yeah no poo poo. He's not from the super-rich dynasties so he is a sacrifice to allow them to keep doing what they do and hope nobody notices. Did anyone seriously think differently?

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Joementum posted:

I recommend brushing up on Clinton conspiracies because we're in for a renaissance.

I think Trump mentioned Whitewater yesterday.

We should have a dedicated thread just to Clinton scandals.

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

Shageletic posted:

Christianity: The First Three Thousand Years by Diarmond MacCulloch for a mild sense of befuddlement at current Christian practices, for the mildest dip.

Anytime someone mentions this book in any context I'm forced to post my enthusiastic agreement. So, you know...here it is.

(Best history of Christianity ever written at any size, and easily the best single-volume book on any religion.)

atelier morgan
Mar 11, 2003

super-scientific, ultra-gay

Lipstick Apathy

Luigi Thirty posted:

Yeah no poo poo. He's not from the super-rich dynasties so he is a sacrifice to allow them to keep doing what they do and hope nobody notices. Did anyone seriously think differently?

yeah, you bust bernie madoff and you get to let hsbc off the hook for laundering money for terrorists, you bust shkreli and you get to let valent or merck off the hook for price gouging on life saving drug regimes

baw
Nov 5, 2008

RESIDENT: LAISSEZ FAIR-SNEZHNEVSKY INSTITUTE FOR FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY

mdemone posted:

Anytime someone mentions this book in any context I'm forced to post my enthusiastic agreement. So, you know...here it is.

(Best history of Christianity ever written at any size, and easily the best single-volume book on any religion.)

Yeah it's really a helluva a thing and readable as all hell too even if someone just has a casual interest in the topic

pathetic little tramp
Dec 12, 2005

by Hillary Clinton's assassins
Fallen Rib
http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2015/12/14/planned-parenthood-court-case.html

quote:

Also on Monday, Republican state lawmakers said they will introduce legislation that would require aborted fetuses to be buried or cremated — and women who have abortions would have to make the decision.

“Today, we stand for the voiceless. Today, we stand for the dignity of the unborn,” Rep. Robert McColley of Napoleon said at a Statehouse news conference, joined by three other lawmakers.

One bill would require hospitals, abortion clinics and other health-care providers to dispose of fetuses and fetal tissue either by burial or cremation.

The second bill would require women who have abortions to sign a paper designating whether they want the fetal remains to be buried or cremated. If the law is not followed, the provider, but not the woman, could be charged with a first-degree misdemeanor, punishable with up to 180 days in jail.

“We can no longer sit on the wall about what is going on inside their (Planned Parenthood) clinics,” said Rep. Kyle Koehler from Springfield.

House Speaker Cliff Rosenberger, R-Clarksville, said the bills will be “a priority in the House” when lawmakers return in January.

One other state, Indiana, has a similar law, signed in August by Gov. Mike Pence.

It says Indiana has a similar law but the law in Indiana as far as I can tell from reports does not attach a misdemeanour and basically seems to just be saying that an abortion clinic must offer burial as an option.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July
Just a reminder: don't let your users anonymously send bomb threats to school districts.

100 degrees Calcium
Jan 23, 2011



pathetic little tramp posted:

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2015/12/14/planned-parenthood-court-case.html


It says Indiana has a similar law but the law in Indiana as far as I can tell from reports does not attach a misdemeanour and basically seems to just be saying that an abortion clinic must offer burial as an option.

Is there just nothing for politicians to do?

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

pathetic little tramp posted:

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2015/12/14/planned-parenthood-court-case.html


It says Indiana has a similar law but the law in Indiana as far as I can tell from reports does not attach a misdemeanour and basically seems to just be saying that an abortion clinic must offer burial as an option.

How is this legal in regards to a patient being in charge of medical decisions?

Oh wait they're slutty slut sluts who don't have the ability to make rational decisions.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Trump talking about killing reporters and pallin' around with Putin. If y'all ain't watching the rally you need to.

MothraAttack
Apr 28, 2008

Aliquid posted:

Trump talking about killing reporters and pallin' around with Putin. If y'all ain't watching the rally you need to.

"I wouldn't kill them, but I hate them." Holy poo poo.

Moktaro
Aug 3, 2007
I value call my nuts.


Some perspective: The money Connie Mack made as a baseball player and manager is over 4000x less than that amount (maybe).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connie_Mack

Zeno-25
Dec 5, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

pathetic little tramp posted:

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2015/12/14/planned-parenthood-court-case.html


It says Indiana has a similar law but the law in Indiana as far as I can tell from reports does not attach a misdemeanour and basically seems to just be saying that an abortion clinic must offer burial as an option.

Isn't this just a back-handed way to ban donating fetal tissue for medical research? Or is that still allowed as an option under the law?

quote:

One bill would require hospitals, abortion clinics and other health-care providers to dispose of fetuses and fetal tissue either by burial or cremation.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
So the argument is that running a country shouldn't require much more money than making a movie?

hangedman1984
Jul 25, 2012

joeburz posted:

debbie wasserman schultz!!! :argh:

One great thing to come out of the Sanders datagate thing is all the hate that DWS is getting

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

SpiderHyphenMan posted:

But we actually stopped this one!

did we. if he still has a ton of money he can probaly just buy his way out of the case.

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



eviltastic posted:

Forgive the derail: I could use a recommendation for a USPOL-esque book that's come out recently. I'm getting someone Jim Crow's Last Stand, but could use a backup gift. My own reading preferences are terrible, so I'd appreciate a suggestion.

I'm reading William T. Vollman's Imperial right now, and it's absolutely fantastic. Depressing as gently caress, but fantastic. Didn't come out this year, but if you need a doorstop that doubles as an indictment about everything wrong with America, it's totally worth it.

Republicans
Oct 14, 2003

- More money for us

- Fuck you


hangedman1984 posted:

One great thing to come out of the Sanders datagate thing is all the hate that DWS is getting

Why is she still the DNC chairman? Does nobody else want the job? She seems so thoroughly reviled by everyone.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Republicans posted:

Why is she still the DNC chairman? Does nobody else want the job? She seems so thoroughly reviled by everyone.

Because people who barely understand politics are not actually in charge of firing and hiring DNC chairs.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

fishmech posted:

Because people who barely understand politics are not actually in charge of firing and hiring DNC chairs.

Bernie Sanders has been appointed dictator for life by the plebs.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



baw posted:

Of course if your friend doesn't have Invisible Bridge then that's the priority
This, just for a good example of how things really haven't changed at all in 40 years

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Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

hangedman1984 posted:

One great thing to come out of the Sanders datagate thing is all the hate that DWS is getting

On the other hand, the Democratic Party probably doesn't give a poo poo what internet liberals who routinely talk about how they would never join the centrist Democratic Party think or how many change.org petitions they sign.

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