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I'm a keyboard player. To be more specific, I am a FFXI keyboard player. I have built my gameplay experience completely around using the keyboard for everything. numpad is used for movement, arrow keys control the camera. I used A, S, D, and X to control the menu movements. and I have two rows of action bars for doing stuff. I've been using macros to switch my primary action bar between 3 different bars on my lower row. I even have g-keys on my Logitech G-510s keyboard mapped out.

Even with all that it is not enough to compare to a game controller player.

Valle posted:

Btw, you do realize that when you "finish" story mode and hit 50, there's literally 100 more quests until you can start on Heavensward stuff, right? I just spent a week going from 2.0 to Heavensward (haven't played for nearly 2 years).

lokipunk posted:

UUUUUGH

Technogeek posted:

lokipunk posted:

UUUUUGH

Technogeek posted:

nuru posted:

I know it was an OF post, but when I was taking bullet trains in Japan I played with no mouse and it worked surprisingly well for non-raid content. All my movement and abilities were around wasd on my left hand, so my right hand was free to constantly adjust the camera with arrow keys.

Tortolia posted:

Don't just quest to the exclusion of everything else. Unlock and run the level 50 dungeons to break things up. Do the original relic chain up to Zenith level and see the trials. Hop into groups running Crystal Tower/Coil/EX primals.

Grinding nothing but a year and a half of patched in story quests is a lot to plow through. Check the other content they added as they went along!

Valle posted:

Do note, doing the main storyline quests between 2.0 and Heavensward will deck you out in ilevel 110 gear. Pretty sure I got 70 and 90 as well in there, before that. So don't fret too much!

SwissArmyDruid posted:

Servers up, apparently they didn't need the extra one and a half hours after all.

I don't see any patch notes, though...

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The following issue has been fixed:

・Summoning retainers would prevent the player from interacting with or summoning the retainers again.
・Under certain conditions, character names in the Friend List and Black List, as well as on sent and received letters would not be displayed properly.

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So the first thing I will mention is that the longest of the three grinds, is in fact the Law grind/Alexander Floor 3/Kobold Beast Tribes. Get this to 18 ore before you even consider working on any of the other content. I will also mention that speed farming A1/A3/A4 is the fastest method, but it requires both a skill and a DPS check that may not be possible for the average player.

Most of the progress I did first was by taking new players who had never done Binding Coil of Bahamut. Make sure their item level is 123 before you help them, so they can get through 1-13 seamlessly. This will get you 1,200 poetics per cycle and help a new player to the game experience what is IMHO the best story we have had thus far.

While extreme primals boast 100 poetic rewards, the time to attune/run/etc make it not logistically a positive method to speed up your grinding time. Stick to the 7 man party and pull in cycles of new players, most clears for T1-T13 will occur in under 3-5 minutes if your group knows what it is doing.

Now to the secret, The Hunt for Notorious Monsters. Allied Seals, Law, and Poetics simultaneously. You want to make sure that whatever content you do will allow you to either evacuate your current trial/duty/event, to make it to the hunt. Prioritize 2.0 hunts over 3.0, as the allied seal gain is the main importance of 2.0 Hunts. This will help you complete the material for A1 and A4.

It takes 5 days to do all 4 of the 2.0 Beast Tribe quests and get 1 piece, so if you're going to take more then 5 days doing the relic then you'll want to do 3 of each quest. Because of being level 60 you can complete the quest without getting aggro, even the annoying Sylphland quests of invisibility do not require invisibility.

Now to the smart farming methods. A1 is obvious, that you want to solo tank. You can bring in a second tank as DPS if you want to and stack both Oppressor and .5 on top of each other. Push is at 20% regardless of your DPS, and then you can burn it down. Alternatively if your DPS is no good, then you can do the poetic method above doing T1-T13.

A2 is completely bypassed due to poetics.

A3 can be cleared in 3 to 3.5 minutes by DPSing so that the water add phase is entirely skipped. We found that using 1 dragoon, 2 bards, 1 summoner, 1 black mage and a ninja. Paladin MT pulled in shield oath and did two rage of halone + shadewalker allowed the paladin to hold hate for most of the fight. We utilized a scholar and selene with fey wind, along with the double bards upkeeping the foe's throughout the entire fight (practically).

Paladin kept up halone at each major transition, and cycled hallowed ground towards the end of the double hand phase while upkeep of riot blade was 100% on both adds. Along with that pushing it to the final phase and completely skipping the add phase allowed us to have essentially 1 minute trash pulls, with 3 minute kills making this an extremely effective farm.

A4 we chose to utilize Dark Knight and Warrior, with the warrior main tanking and the Dark Knight as an off tank. DK could use plunge to quickly return to battle post-quarantine. (Though we usually pushed DPS to skip quarantine on 1st leg without any issues. Approximately 3.5 minutes without quarantine, 4.0 with. Group comp is negligible here, though we seemed to tend to end up with 4 melee counting the tanks and solo healing we chose to do White Mage.
The reason for 2 tanks was because if you solo tank and solo heal there is a risk the healer may get quarantined (lol)

Long and short of it, this grind isn't horrible, but it's more painful to the casual player. Don't get discouraged however and just put in your time.
I personally was doing every daily quest daily, all 4 beast tribes, and the farming to help me speed up the process. I hope this information makes your grind less painful, and good luck!

Meldonox posted:

Reading that post was too much of a time commitment for me. Should I give up on the relic?

Meldonox posted:

Reading that post was too much of a time commitment for me. Should I give up on the relic?

Scrublord Prime posted:

The third step of the relic is more something you'll chip away at over time. You don't need to get Alex farming parties together or do 2.x hunts, although they can help. Just do whatever is fun and burn your excess poetics and law on unidentifiable stuff. Keep doing the Vanu beastman dailies if you're leveling a class 50-60 and trade those tokens in too as needed. There's plenty of ways to get the tokens and it isn't designed to be something you get quickly. Don't burn yourself out trying to do hundreds of Alex runs.

ilifinicus posted:

see you in 2017 when you're done

Vil posted:

I'd say somewhere in the ballpark of March/April (depending on how many days they play and how actively they play), for the majority of people who very casually chip away at a little bit of the third step every time they play, but aren't consistent about it.

For someone who plays most days, runs their beast tribe dailies and a few roulettes every day, and throws in some occasional hunts or Alexander, a more reasonable end goal is late January.

And, yes, as we've seen from Reddit posts, it's also possible to grind it out within a week of extremely active play.

hobbesmaster posted:

Unfortunately many newer people will not even be able to get beast tribe currency by late January.

Nipponophile posted:

Maybe by then people will have quit whining about how they were FORCED to run Alex 800 times to get their relics.

Pews posted:

Nothing was added this patch, only an incentive to re-do all the old content that has been fully played out.

Adventure Pigeon posted:

House talk

Mordiceius posted:

Any district or what not you're aiming for? I'm going to be camping out in Mist to get a medium house.

And also, on that note: my medium house in Goblet 1, Plot 12 will be freed up during the reclamation. It is right next to the PBC/DGKK houses, so stalk it if you want it.

Mordiceius posted:

If you do 3 quests by all 3 beast tribes daily, it takes 45 days to MAX the tribes. It takes roughly 25 days to get to tier 3 in all 4.

Mordiceius posted:

That's every relic quest though? Did you not do the 2.x relics?

Mordiceius posted:

That's every relic quest though? Did you not do the 2.x relics?

ArtIsResistance posted:

Maybe there'd be less complaints about the relic if there was actually something to do in this expansion

Ryanbomber posted:

The 2.x patches had things to do other than relics, though.

ArtIsResistance posted:

Maybe there'd be less complaints about the relic if there was actually something to do in this expansion