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Laserface posted:If working full time in a 5 of 7 day roster, should penalty rates be applied to sundays? Yes.
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Laserface posted:If working full time in a 5 of 7 day roster, should penalty rates be applied to sundays? Yes. There's more to a weekend for most people than just time spent not at work.
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Woolworths: Puts a 4 can limit on formula So it can sell stock itself online in China, destroying independent merchants Free market???
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my stepdads beer posted:Why is it up to random bloggers to unearth astroturfing organisations like the Amy Gillett Foundation instead of professionals working in our media? Because this shithouse article wouldn't pass a sub-editor, let alone a media legal division. Notwithstanding the claims being completely baseless (and seemingly driven mostly by this guy's disapproval of mandatory helmet laws  ), this is an ugly, spiteful article. It takes a special type of cretin to suggest that Malala Yousafzai is the unwitting pawn of some cabal bent on selling "crass imperialist indefinite Afghan occupation as righteous humanitarian intervention", or that a UK celebrity who survived a cycling injury due to wearing a helmet is in the pocket of Big Auto for advocating their use.
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Wheezle posted:Yes. There's more to a weekend for most people than just time spent not at work. Right. So the employer I am interviewing for telling me that they dont pay penalty rates for weekend work (but do for public holidays) is breaking the law?
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Laserface posted:Right. So the employer I am interviewing for telling me that they dont pay penalty rates for weekend work (but do for public holidays) is breaking the law? If you're working full time wouldn't working weekends give you overtime pay anyway?
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Dec 22, 2015 10:09
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Laserface posted:If working full time in a 5 of 7 day roster, should penalty rates be applied to sundays?
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Dec 22, 2015 10:12
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Laserface posted:Right. So the employer I am interviewing for telling me that they dont pay penalty rates for weekend work (but do for public holidays) is breaking the law? Not neccesarily. I've known some people on contracts where they don't get penalty rates because they get a higher base rate to compensate... so I guess that's legal. What kind of job is it and how much are they offering you? I mean, lawyers and poo poo will work like 60 or 80 hour weeks and get no compensation for late hours or weekend stuff. But anybody on an actual hourly wage should either be getting penalty rates, or getting a higher base rate than comparable workers doing Mon-Fri 9-5. Frogfingers posted:If you're working full time wouldn't working weekends give you overtime pay anyway? Full time just means 40 hours a week. I've worked full time Tuesday-Saturday (with Sundays and Mondays off) and got penalty rates for the Saturday.
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Dispute being a warehouse, I believe uMart uses the retail base wage instead of the warehousing base because the retail wage is lower base so the warehouse workers get hosed over because they get paid a lower retail rate.
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Dec 22, 2015 10:21
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Actually isn't there a fairly well known brans still operating on Howard era Workchoices poo poo which means their employees don't get penalty rates? Bunnings or something? It was a household name.
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Dec 22, 2015 10:25
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freebooter posted:Actually isn't there a fairly well known brans still operating on Howard era Workchoices poo poo which means their employees don't get penalty rates? Bunnings or something? It was a household name. I remember Nandos came up in this thread before as an example. I believe that was something to do with the workforce never having transferred from individual contracts to an EBA (and management making sure that never happens...). Laserface find out what's in the Award for your industry as a first step, as that should be the legal minimum.
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freebooter posted:Actually isn't there a fairly well known brans still operating on Howard era Workchoices poo poo which means their employees don't get penalty rates? Bunnings or something? It was a household name. Grill'd?
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Dec 22, 2015 10:56
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I'm shocked it took Woolworths this long to catch on.
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Dec 22, 2015 11:11
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quote:A terminally ill student who wanted to see his family one last time has had his request rejected by Australia's immigration department. Good, if the department had approved the request everyone would go and get cancer just so their family could visit Australia.
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Solemn Sloth posted:Good, if the department had approved the request everyone would go and get cancer just so their family could visit Australia. Good on dutton for standing up to emotional blackmail again.
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Dec 22, 2015 12:43
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freebooter posted:Not neccesarily. I've known some people on contracts where they don't get penalty rates because they get a higher base rate to compensate... so I guess that's legal. Without giving away too much, its a support related role for a very large international tech company who specialises in devices that just work. offering 40K, 5 of 7 roster. I dont really want to take the job because its significantly less than my previous one, but its work from home and I can at least do it until something better paying comes along.
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Laserface posted:Without giving away too much, its a support related role for a very large international tech company who specialises in devices that just work. No way in hell would the company in question be on an enterprise bargaining agreement from the howard era exempting them from penalty rates. Good to know how much that job was paying - I too saw that position, comes up quite a bit actually and recommended it to someone who needed to work from home. apparently it can be covered by a 'registered agreement' so if you are actually concerned about this, you should call fair work australia, as all registered agreements are registered with them, and they HAVE to know about it  . https://www.fairwork.gov.au/pay/penalty-rates-and-allowances EDIT: they have an online tool to search for them - I can't see one. best to ring them. https://www.fwc.gov.au/awards-and-agreements/agreements/find-agreementconsidering I believe that company in question does a double irish with a dutch sandwich in regards to their tax obligations - I am not surprised at this. I was earning about the same at HP doing level one work yonks ago and I had to schlepp my butt to work across town to start on a rotating roster for 8 hour shifts that could start anywhere between 6am and 1pm. They also encouraged us to do overtime, though I was never a big fan of it, you just have to have a strong personality enough to tell them to gently caress off if you dont want to - because you value your work-life balance. we got paid for it though. time and a half for a few hours and double time after that. more if it was on weekends. posty fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Dec 22, 2015 |
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SBS2 cranking out some TV for next year that may fit neatly into your must see TV collection. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nClYDL7jgj0
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In the first 10 seconds I was cringing because it looked like an ad for Clash of Clans or something, then I had a big smile on my face for the next few minutes E: and holy poo poo Guy Pearce
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starkebn posted:In the first 10 seconds I was cringing because it looked like an ad for Clash of Clans or something, then I had a big smile on my face for the next few minutes I had the same reaction watching it at first, so glad I didn't just click out of it writing it off.
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Birb Katter posted:SBS2 cranking out some TV for next year that may fit neatly into your must see TV collection. I am officially enthused
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Birb Katter posted:SBS2 cranking out some TV for next year that may fit neatly into your must see TV collection. Content edit: On the radio this morning Tania Plibersek was trying to explain why the ALP isn't worried about their poll standings and said that if you were in any doubt check out their policy document on line: http://www.alp.org.au/policy_commitments Not sure if that's not actually worse than stoner sloth. Cartoon fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Dec 22, 2015 |
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Laserface posted:Without giving away too much, its a support related role for a very large international tech company who specialises in devices that just work. Yeah I don't understand how they can get away with no penalty rates. If you are ambivalent about the job anyway, then I say push them to explain why they're not offering rates, and also check with Fair Work Australia or whoever.
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posty posted:No way in hell would the company in question be on an enterprise bargaining agreement from the howard era exempting them from penalty rates. Thanks. Yeah I did work in HPs call centre and it was the same thing. I also worked for a now defunct mobile company that did the same thing. 5 of 7, no penalty rates except public holidays. I will look them up myself and investigate. I have other irons in the fire but given the time of year things are progressing slowly and so far it's the job I'm closest to getting, and even then it starts in mid February.
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-23/laws-allowing-act-window-washers-branded-absurd/7046046 I didn't realise this was banned in the rest of Australia. I guess I should have expected it to be.
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open24hours posted:http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-23/laws-allowing-act-window-washers-branded-absurd/7046046 In Victoria it is banned but poorly enforced. There's always dudes at the corner of Victoria St and Punt Rd
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An interesting take on how the coalition has used domestic violence as a distraction and a shield from the beginning of the abbott government in 2013.
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Some Media Hacks posted:Major pathology business in Health Minister Sussan Ley's electorate to close
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After the final appeal to let that brown dude with cancers parents have a visa so they can see him before he dies had been knocked back, Dutton has just announced a backflip on his own decision.
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freebooter posted:What counts as Entertainment? I work in the TV industry in a relatively well paid job but I work late nights and weekends and very much depend on penalty rates. I mean obviously I don't want anybody's rates to be cut, but it's this kind of thing that makes me realise that so many people see the penalty rate thing as just about casual jobs vs. frontline ambos/firies/cops. There's an awful lot of other jobs that get (and depend on) penalty rates as well. Wait what? A) that's the media industry and not entertainment, b) since when did anybody in our industry get paid overtime or penalty rates. It happens sometimes, but rare as hen's teeth. C) do you really think a government would ever go after us? We'd demolish them.
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Birb Katter posted:After the final appeal to let that brown dude with cancers parents have a visa so they can see him before he dies had been knocked back, Dutton has just announced a backflip on his own decision. Spineless jellyfish caves in to pressure to behave like a decent human being. Disgraceful!
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Malcolm: "Peter, do you like being Immigration Minister?" Peter: "Uhhh what...?" Malcolm: "Peter, do you like being Immigration Minister?" Peter: "Ohhh....well I guess it's only one brown person..." Malcolm: "Seeeee that wasn't hard, and people won't hate you for Christmas!" Peter: "But I want them to hate and fear me! and obey my commands! And--" Malcolm: "Remember that conversation we had about what happens when people hate the Minister and the focus groups start complaining?" Peter: "Bad things about the Minister start being leaked and the Party is very sorry they have to replace him...yeah ok..."
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Pickled Tink posted:First Dog: ok. maybe first dog should write a column... "hello" he lied. TIL that "third world" did not originally mean poor or undeveloped countries, rather those not aligned with the major powers of the Cold War era. Since then its use has come to mean undeveloped but this is somewhat derogatory especially considering its original definition. Some of those countries have created the Non-Aligned Movement https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Aligned_Movement Ergo, first world problems might more accurately reflect issues regarding political alignment and free trade agreements with aligned powers. My elected leaders signed a secret trade agreement with the US! #firstworldproblems
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open24hours posted:http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-23/laws-allowing-act-window-washers-branded-absurd/7046046 quote:The Australian Pedestrian Council's Harold Scruby is unimpressed Well he would be with that name wouldn't he? 
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Solemn Sloth posted:Good, if the department had approved the request everyone would go and get cancer just so their family could visit Australia. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-23/visas-for-parents-of-hassan-asif-approved/7050822 Apparently the floodgates are open, all refugees just need to get late stage terminal cancer and they are in
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