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NESguerilla posted:I know digital media has been killing physical media for years. I'm not arguing that. It was originally in response to Fishmech saying that a lot of college aged people don't even really know what a record is, which I would say is way off base. Like I said, it's pretty much a boutiquey novelty thing now, but kids are very aware of it. It's just not the same sales-wise as it was when physical media was the only option. Just because that stuff doesn't sell in droves like it used to doesn't make it some forgotten relic of the past. It is a forgotten relic of the past though. Please don't get people knowing about like, album art, confused with them understanding that a record is played on a turntable with needle, or that it's anything beyond "those old black things that were for music". This is being talked about in the context of things like floppy disks as a save icon - yes people would recognize "that's the thing from the save icon", but they wouldn't really get that's a thing you would use to transfer files.
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fishmech posted:It is a forgotten relic of the past though. Please don't get people knowing about like, album art, confused with them understanding that a record is played on a turntable with needle, or that it's anything beyond "those old black things that were for music". It's not though. College aged kids love vinyl and at worst, know exactly what it is. I don't know where you are drawing this assumption from. Citing sales doesn't mean anything because I'm not talking about sales I'm talking about cultural relevance.
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NESguerilla posted:It's not though. College aged kids love vinyl and at worst, know exactly what it is. I don't know where you are drawing this assumption from. Citing sales doesn't mean anything because I'm not talking about sales I'm talking about cultural relevance. Some do. It's far from a universal thing. Most don't these days. It's most definitely a relic. It's extremely not culturally relevant too.
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Dec 22, 2015 01:59
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Something that regularly gets fetishized by people and the media isn't relevant? Maybe I've spent too much of my life hanging around hipsters I dunno. I've never met anyone that clueless about vinyl.
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Dec 22, 2015 02:06
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im in my 20s and if i met someone who didnt know what a record was or how they work i'd be genuinely shocked because even if they dont give a poo poo they've heard about it. Unless you're literally talking to children
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Dec 22, 2015 02:19
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This is possibly the stupidest discussion I've seen go over a page in this thread. New topic: I live in a city with a high minimum wage and don't believe I should have to tip; what is the best way to do so while still receiving a high standard of service from the proletariat? Bonus points if it reminds then off their place.
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Dec 22, 2015 03:25
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Thanatosian posted:This is possibly the stupidest discussion I've seen go over a page in this thread. Give them gift certificates for circumcision. Or cat declawing, if they seem already circumcised.
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Dec 22, 2015 03:51
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AlbieQuirky posted:Give them gift certificates for circumcision. Or cat declawing, if they seem already circumcised. How about their very own concealed carry license?
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Dec 22, 2015 03:54
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Are you sure this princely minimum wage applies to foods service people? Wait staff frequently get well below minimum wage with the assumption that gratuity will make up the difference.
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Dec 22, 2015 04:32
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stubblyhead posted:Are you sure this princely minimum wage applies to foods service people? Wait staff frequently get well below minimum wage with the assumption that gratuity will make up the difference. The socialist on the city council insisted we not make this thoroughly reasonable concession to the pressures of the restaurant industry.
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Dec 22, 2015 04:46
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Thanatosian posted:This is possibly the stupidest discussion I've seen go over a page in this thread. Wear your Amazon employee badge, and on the tip line remind them that your company is the only reason why there are so many service industry jobs available.
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Dec 22, 2015 05:04
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fishmech posted:Some do. It's far from a universal thing. Most don't these days. It's most definitely a relic. I would be shocked if 90% of people don't know what a vinyl record is. I mean, if you're saying "haven't listened to one" then sure, but nearly everybody is familiar with vinyl records. They're not obscure at all. There are probably more people that would be confused by the concept of a VHS than a vinyl.
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Dec 22, 2015 06:57
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I would like to know more about how people estimate the percentage of the global population who have knowledge of analogue disc media, based on their observations from their own hometowns. Is there a place I can get some data? Can I set up a Google spreadsheet perhaps and get people to put in their opinions? It's for a project.
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Captain Novolin posted:im in my 20s and if i met someone who didnt know what a record was or how they work i'd be genuinely shocked because even if they dont give a poo poo they've heard about it. Unless you're literally talking to children I work with children. 11 year olds know what records are, what record players are, and sort of how they function ("don't they use a needle?"). I've had groups of kids tell me these things as part of history lessons. FWIW they didn't know what floppy discs were other than "the save icon!", which was funny to me. 6 year olds don't know this, but they also usually don't know many other things, like what wifi is, their knowledge is a bad indicator of relevance. Some of them do recognize the save icon, though. Not to fuel this discussion anymore because it's really weird and you guys are just persistently talking past each other.
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Dec 22, 2015 07:42
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stubblyhead posted:Are you sure this princely minimum wage applies to foods service people? Wait staff frequently get well below minimum wage with the assumption that gratuity will make up the difference. It's not an assumption, actually. Tips are calculated, and if the employee doesn't get enough in tips to cover the discrepancy between their wages and minimum wage, the employer is legally required to pay them up to the minimum wage. I mean, it's still a dick move. And I very much doubt every business does that. But if you get hosed over by a boss in that way, you're able to take their rear end to court about it.
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Dec 22, 2015 07:44
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Kids know what a record is because they do all that scratching and mixing you know as kids do
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Captain Bravo posted:It's not an assumption, actually. Tips are calculated, and if the employee doesn't get enough in tips to cover the discrepancy between their wages and minimum wage, the employer is legally required to pay them up to the minimum wage. I mean, assuming you have the resources to bring the case to court, and can live without your job in the meantime.
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Thanatosian posted:I mean, assuming you have the resources to bring the case to court, and can live without your job in the meantime.
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photomikey posted:Or if you can call the 1-800 number posted in the break room right above the time clock and report it. Even with the benefit of written records and incontrivertible proof of employer malfeasance, pursuing lost or stolen wages in the service sector is spectacularly frustrating. It is estimated to cost workers in the United States alone about $50B dollars each year. Despite legal protections, it can take years to recover wages. I suspect that if an employee had a video of a restaurant owner saying, "I am stealing your wages, because I am greedy and evil," directly to an employee, and this video were submitted into evidence in a lawsuit, it would still take a great deal of time, effort, and frustration for the employee to receive those wages. So while yes, calling the local labor relations authority is the first step, I believe your post gives short shrift to workers in the service industry. At least they're used to it.
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Here's the thing, once a boss starts out-and-out loving you, you need to find another job pronto. Whether or not you're going to do something to piss them off, or risk getting fired, or whatever, that is a big red flag to start filling out applications at McDonalds because if they can get away with it they're going to keep doing it. Once you're at your other job, then you can report and try to maybe get back some of that money or whatever. Only an idiot, or someone truly and utterly desperate would try suing an employer that they're still currently working for. Most people just start keeping the evidence and wait to do something about it until they've found themselves a poverty parachute.
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Ok so now grammers is buying computer. Once upon a time Microsoft released Internet Security Essentials, and it was so good that it killed off any need for home users to purchase third party security software, and now this is built into the os from win8 onwards. Now this sales guy at the department store tells her this sucks and she should buy Norton. Also Wikipedia says this started out good but soon hit a decline and hit rock bottom in 2013 with 0 in goodness score as awarded by the serious business committee. So is he full of poo poo, or should she to buy AV/FW software, in which case which? AVG? (ugh)
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Karate Bastard posted:Ok so now grammers is buying computer. Keep MSE, disable java, set chrome or firefox as the default browser and install an adblocker. If you must buy an AV, ESET is ok, and keeps the hd scanning and "hey, look at me! I'm working!" pop-ups to a minimum. He's kind of right, in that MSE has become less effective as it became more ubiquitous, but I wouldn't trust anything he says beyond that, simply because Norton is just terrible. Sadly, whatever the leading antivirus programs are at any given time doesn't make much of a difference since they still suck at detecting new iterations of viruses, and they are of little to no use in protecting against users clicking malicious links, installing adware-laden coupon apps and downloading emails with pdf.exe files in them. Also all the antivirus benchmarks out there are next to useless, since they test with a battery of known viruses. So AV companies have all the time in the world to make a product that will excel at the benchmarks, nevermind it's usefulness in the real world. There's a pretty interesting thread here in a/t by an AV programmer, in case you're interested in reading more.
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Karate Bastard posted:Ok so now grammers is buying computer. Do not buy antivirus software unless you are actually setting up a massive computer system for a company and you'll have a server tasked with handling it. The sales guy is full of poo poo, and the scores that MSE/Windows Defender from 8 onwards do poorly on are scores that have nothing to do with real world usage. They're tests based on dumping a pre-known selection of constructed malware on the machine which only loosely resemble stuff going around. Consider installing the HOSTS file from here for her: http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm It'll block a lot of sketchy ad domains in any browser or app, so even if she uses a different browser from whatever you set up for her, a decent amount of infection sources will be defeated. fishmech fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Dec 22, 2015 |
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Super! Thanks for rapid responses.
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Karate Bastard posted:So is he full of poo poo, or should she to buy AV/FW software, in which case which? AVG? (ugh) So no, don't use AVG.
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I just saw a clip of Bergdahl coming out of his court martial, and noticed he had quite a few hash marks. I thought maybe the Army's service stripes work differently than the Marines', so I checked Wikipedia, and they're for every three years. So why does it look like Begdahl has at least five stripes?
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Haha yeah I'm also pretty sore from pwning myself hard using AVG (in combination with temporary gross user incompetence, to be honest). That particular instance was way way uglier than that though.Fruits of the sea posted:There's a pretty interesting thread here in a/t by an AV programmer, in case you're interested in reading more. Currently phoneposting. Could I trouble you for a link? e: vvvvvv thanks a bunch! Karate Bastard fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Dec 22, 2015 |
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Karate Bastard posted:Haha yeah I'm also pretty sore from pwning myself hard using AVG (in combination with temporary gross user incompetence, to be honest). That particular instance was way way uglier than that though. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3731439&pagenumber=1&perpage=40 Confirming its interesting thread status. Posting has slowed in it but I still follow it and the first few pages are filled with cool information.
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Captain Bravo posted:It's not an assumption, actually. Tips are calculated, and if the employee doesn't get enough in tips to cover the discrepancy between their wages and minimum wage, the employer is legally required to pay them up to the minimum wage. Quiet, you. I was trying to avoid giving him any more excuses to not tip.
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Hummingbirds posted:Thanks, I'll see if I can try to find specific info. I called the county clerk and she said no one gets called to report in the two weeks before Xmas. That means the deferred summons I got was just to gently caress with me for asking for a deferral 
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Is the SAclopedia pronounced "essay-clopedia" or "sack-lopedia"?
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Is it ever wrong to use a past tense to describe what a piece of writing is about? For instance, if you're writing a report that references an earlier one: "My earlier report found that...." instead of "My earlier report finds that..." Would the first one be acceptable?
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Powered Descent posted:Is the SAclopedia pronounced "essay-clopedia" or "sack-lopedia"? Since it looks like a single word, I say sacklopedia.
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Mister Kingdom posted:Since it looks like a single word, I say sacklopedia. That is also what I say in my head, but I always assumed it was supposed to be es-ay-clopedia because that sounds like encyclopedia.
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I say ess-ay-paedia because I'm alt.
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Why would you ever need to say that out loud?
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E: double post
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NESguerilla posted:Why would you ever need to say that out loud? God forbid it would ever come up in an irl conversation. See also FYAD or YOSPOS. Unfortunately a lot of technical abbreviations/acronyms come up if you work a nerd job. And you get to learn how your higher-ups say URL or iOS or whatever. Blech
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syscall girl posted:God forbid it would ever come up in an irl conversation. See also FYAD or YOSPOS. I hope some people say Earl for URL.
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OctoberBlues posted:I hope some people say Earl for URL. That's uh, my boss actually. I try not to cringe, visibly. "Just curl your toes and smile syscall girl"
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