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ayn rand hand job posted:Did anyone ever get the comped Arkham games I already owned all the previous games I had a lot of fun with the entire series which was why I preordered this. Thank gently caress I did it from GMG for $40. Also I'm one of the super lucky guys that has the game run fine on my system.
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ayn rand hand job posted:Did anyone ever get the comped Arkham games Yup, back on the day they were supposed to. The only one I didn't have was Blackgate, but it showed up in the game list and I have the option to download it if I want to. (I don't.)
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Dec 22, 2015 23:08
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redbackground posted:Yup, back on the day they were supposed to. The only one I didn't have was Blackgate, but it showed up in the game list and I have the option to download it if I want to. (I don't.) oh so no gift copies in the case that you were a loyal fan and had bought the games before thanks rocksteady
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ayn rand hand job posted:oh so no gift copies in the case that you were a loyal fan and had bought the games before
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Dec 23, 2015 00:04
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redbackground posted:Oh, I must have misunderstood the initial question. No, gift/second copies of the games are not provided. Wow, that's some serious babyback bullshit.
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Dec 23, 2015 00:16
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redbackground posted:Yup, back on the day they were supposed to. The only one I didn't have was Blackgate, but it showed up in the game list and I have the option to download it if I want to. (I don't.) Wait, I didn't get anything. What the gently caress.
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So if I buy all the non-batmobile DLC that I don't own (since I bought a new copy on Day 1).... my total comes to 34 bucks. The $40 price tag is such a rip. But goddamn, I am tempted for 34 bucks... someone talk me out of this.
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Dec 23, 2015 00:38
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Narcissus1916 posted:So if I buy all the non-batmobile DLC that I don't own (since I bought a new copy on Day 1).... my total comes to 34 bucks. It'll get a lot cheaper sooner than later.
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Dec 23, 2015 00:50
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Yeah, that's what is keeping me holding off. I'm waiting for a sale on ps4, and it just came on sale for Xbone users. I have to imagine we can't be too far behind.
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Dec 23, 2015 00:58
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Mogomra posted:Wait, I didn't get anything. What the gently caress.
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This is still the best Batman game out there. Asylum was better for its time but AK has added a lot of cool things to the combat, it looks good (assuming it agrees with your PC) and it has more challenge maps that you could possibly want.
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jneer posted:This is still the best Batman game out there. Asylum was better for its time but AK has added a lot of cool things to the combat, it looks good (assuming it agrees with your PC) and it has more challenge maps that you could possibly want. Bcause when I think of Batman I think of seemingly neverending hordes of tank drones.
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Dec 23, 2015 01:29
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jneer posted:This is still the best Batman game out there. Asylum was better for its time but AK has added a lot of cool things to the combat, it looks good (assuming it agrees with your PC) and it has more challenge maps that you could possibly want. Even if AK had 1/3 the tank battles that it currently does, I think it'd still only take 3rd place for me, with Origins taking the top spot and City at 2.
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Dec 23, 2015 01:36
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AK has mechanically the best combat but I can't see myself ever replaying the campaign which is not something I can say about any other game in the series.
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Just finished the Season of Infamy and got 100% of the Steam Achievements. So I guess I can uninstall it. I guess I have no right to complain that the game hosed my dog and ran over my father, as it ran for me from the start. But as someone who foolishly bought the season pass and then had to wait until they sorted out the whole PC debacle to get the content, I think my final verdict is that the game is just... bland. It's visually AMAZING, but the plot and gameplay are just lacking. The DLCs highlight the issue all to well, as they feel really more like visual tests rather than interesting gameplay components. Somewhere in all of this was a great game, but I feel like it's just too mired in unnecessary poo poo like tank battles to really come through. I'd rather replay City or even Origins than this again. Edit: ImpAtom posted:AK has mechanically the best combat but I can't see myself ever replaying the campaign which is not something I can say about any other game in the series. Yes, this is how I feel. The combat really only stands out in the challenge maps too, as there really aren't enough interesting or varied fights embedded within the campaign to appreciate the mechanics.
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If the worst thing you can say about it is that it added tank battles, which didn't work for some people, but you don't disagree that the combat and predator encounters are better than ever then it's really a matter of opinion. I can look past the tank battles and see that the core gameplay has improved, which is all I really care about.
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jneer posted:If the worst thing you can say about it is that it added tank battles, which didn't work for some people, but you don't disagree that the combat and predator encounters are better than ever then it's really a matter of opinion. I can look past the tank battles and see that the core gameplay has improved, which is all I really care about. I happily played through the other Arkham games multiple times. But when I think about replaying Arkham Knight I think of the neat graphics and combat additions and the fun joker writing. Then I remember those tank battles and... gently caress that
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Yeah that's fair. It should probably be noted that this is the longest Batman campaign by a long shot, too. It takes me about 6 hours to finish AA, while AK takes 20+ hours, so it really comes down to how much appetite you have for the series. One playthrough of AK is equivalent to running through the rest of the series combined.
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Dec 23, 2015 02:01
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Xeremides posted:Even if AK had 1/3 the tank battles that it currently does, I think it'd still only take 3rd place for me, with Origins taking the top spot and City at 2. Agreed, Origins is the only one you can play as Red Son Batman and so is clearly the best Batman game.
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jneer posted:If the worst thing you can say about it is that it added tank battles, which didn't work for some people, but you don't disagree that the combat and predator encounters are better than ever then it's really a matter of opinion. I can look past the tank battles and see that the core gameplay has improved, which is all I really care about. For me, it's not just the tank battles. The whole plot and pacing of the game just feels... off. I can't really explain it exactly, but the tank battles are just the most easily identifiable symptom of it. I guess I'd add in the lack of any really proper (non-tank) boss fights, or even a proper end boss at all. The game ends with an extended interactive cutscene playing out inside of Batman's mind. Which is cool - but as Batman I want a fight where I can finally subdue the big baddie. There's no Scarecrow fight. There's no real Joker fight. The best fight we get in the base game is Riddler. The game adds a ton of new features with lots of potential - and yes that would include even the Battank - but it just seems like it fails to use any of them to their potential. It mires about in an awkward plot about Jason Todd which has nothing really to do with Scarecrow's goal which has nothing really to do with the Joker-blood plot. It's a visually stunning masterpiece with no real substance behind it, and I think the wasted potential is what bothers me the most. It COULD have been a great game.
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Well that's weird. After i finished the Mr Freeze mission and the city is covered in snow all the stuttering issues i was having have completely stopped. It must have been some weird rain/texture issue maybe unless the snow turns off other stuff. If you get the 'season' of infamy I recommend doing the following order: Mad Hatter, Crok, Freeze, League of Assassins. Hatter is mildly interesting, but Crock has tons of atmosphere while both Freeze and the League of Assassins have a nice sense of finality to them. Though if you speak to one of the prisoners after completing them Batman says that they were funded by an organisation whos name i cant remember. Possible hook into the sequel that's never coming?
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jneer posted:If the worst thing you can say about it is that it added tank battles, which didn't work for some people, but you don't disagree that the combat and predator encounters are better than ever then it's really a matter of opinion. I can look past the tank battles and see that the core gameplay has improved, which is all I really care about. That isn't the worst thing I can say about it. The core gameplay is better but the level design is much worse. The bigger Gotham is a much blander place and the spread-out area doesn't actually work to its favor. The smaller confined areas in the previous games worked better and the 'dungeons' were more plentiful and more interesting while in Knight I only really remember the movie studio and Stagg's airship. The tank battles are also not really ignorable because they take up more of the game than any one one single thing.
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l33t b4c0n posted:For me, it's not just the tank battles. The whole plot and pacing of the game just feels... off. I can't really explain it exactly, but the tank battles are just the most easily identifiable symptom of it. I guess I'd add in the lack of any really proper (non-tank) boss fights, or even a proper end boss at all. The game ends with an extended interactive cutscene playing out inside of Batman's mind. Which is cool - but as Batman I want a fight where I can finally subdue the big baddie. There's no Scarecrow fight. There's no real Joker fight. The best fight we get in the base game is Riddler. this. their arnt enough fist fights, the stealth sections suck now because they are way too big. the tank is meh and the city feels lifeless even when its crawling with goons. the story is a mixed bag. their are no good substories and the side missions sucked. I wanted two-face and penguin to actually try to kill you like the trailers said. the sidemissions are either way to short or way to long and all of them are repetitive as poo poo. honestly its my biggest disappointment of 2015.
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ImpAtom posted:That isn't the worst thing I can say about it. This is exactly what i hoped the season of infamy was going to fix. A series DLC spread out over months that added more and more interiors to the city. What we got kinda does that but it's basically just a couple of rooms in a mission sequence that only takes about 20 minutes to half an hour to do (x2).
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Kin posted:Though if you speak to one of the prisoners after completing them Batman says that they were funded by an organisation whos name i cant remember. Possible hook into the sequel that's never coming? Quorom. Something related to Flash, I think.
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To be fair, I think the Season of Infamy missions were actually really good, and I imagine going back and playing through the campaign again from start to finish with those new missions embedded would give them a much different feel. But to release them at the very end, when nobody really has the intention of playing the campaign again, doesn't really do any good. It's too little, too late for a game that pissed away any potential it had.
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ImpAtom posted:That isn't the worst thing I can say about it. Nah, its basically movie studios and the airships. Th department store I guess is one, except its basically in three segments, the first of which is a godawful escort the Batmobile segment, the second is the excavator fight, the third is the Arkham Knight predator fight, which drags on and ruins one of the better moments that the game is sorely lacking in. jneer posted:If the worst thing you can say about it is that it added tank battles, which didn't work for some people, but you don't disagree that the combat and predator encounters are better than ever then it's really a matter of opinion. I can look past the tank battles and see that the core gameplay has improved, which is all I really care about. Mechanically the combat was alright, but the enemy types just utterly suck. Origins had weaker mechanics, but the enemy variety was much better than "Here's a dude with X. Here's a bigger dude with X". There were very few good predator segments in the game, so it was a step back for me. The story is absolute trash, and I can't believe that it made me appreciate Origins even more.
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I actually think Arkham's Knight is handled well... until that climactic fight. The bit where Batman keeps flashing back to Jason Todd's torture is haunting and the series at its best. And the cat and mouse games between them are quite fun. And then the game just shits the bed with an awful, awful boss fight that features the supposed Heir to Batman... hanging on a gargoyle. Again and again.
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Narcissus1916 posted:I actually think Arkham's Knight is handled well... until that climactic fight. The bit where Batman keeps flashing back to Jason Todd's torture is haunting and the series at its best. And the cat and mouse games between them are quite fun. I really enjoyed that high-octane battle against Deathstroke where the number 2 biggest physical threat in the game decides to hamstring himself and encase himself in a steel death trap. I'm honestly surprised Barbara wasn't chilling in a wheelchair tank by the end of the game.
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Xeremides posted:I really enjoyed that high-octane battle against Deathstroke where the number 2 biggest physical threat in the game decides to hamstring himself and encase himself in a steel death trap. It's been long enough to not worry about spoilers, right? Deathstroke is actually terrified of Batman. It's in his collectible file- he accepted the offer to come train the militia in the hope of ending the nightmares. "Contingency wasn't his style, he was better than that. But Scarecrow knew just how to sell it. He promised the soldier an end to those nightmares, the fear that made his hands tremble. "Revenge - that is what you seek. And I can give it to you." edit: woof, lotta secrets and easter eggs in this DLC. I'm gonna be busy once I actually have a rig that can play this game! Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 09:11 on Dec 23, 2015 |
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I really wish there were more not tank boss fights, and they really messed up by not making the Arkham Knight a three-part fight. First Car vs. Car, with swapping between hunting him down as he flees for his base and fighting him and his drones. Then Predator vs. Predator as you move further into the base, he and you both hiding in shadows whilst his men search for you, the goal is to take out the men without being spotted by the Knight and then getting him when he calls in reinforcements. Finally a knock-down drag out fist against fist scene, which ends with a unique take-down animation which shatters the Knights helmet, allowing you to see Jason Todd underneath.
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God help me, I'm considering the Season Pass because it's on sale.
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Chasiubao posted:God help me, I'm considering the Season Pass because it's on sale. Don't. Just buy the DLC you want. It will almost certainly be cheaper.
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Mogomra posted:I liked the story and the gameplay. Yep, AO and AK are the only games in the series where Batman has an arc. In AO, Batman goes from angsty loner to realising that he needs to work with Gordon for the good of the city. In AK, the villain plays on Batman's fear of losing loved ones but through repeated examples of his sidekicks' competence (Robin in Panessa Studios, Nightwing and Penguin, Gordon and Scarecrow) Batman realises that he can pass on the mantle to the next generation with the confidence that they'll do as good a job as he did. City, on the other hand, is a mess story-wise. The villain is Hugo Strange. Now it's the Joker. Then it's Ras, then it's the Joker and then it's Ras again. The game actually has you beat up the mastermind of the whole plot early on, only to discover that if Batman had slapped some handcuffs on him the first time he would have saved himself a whole lot of trouble down the line. jneer fucked around with this message at 11:50 on Dec 23, 2015 |
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Arkham Knight is the best game in the franchise and the Batmobile is good. Tank battles are bland but not outright bad.
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I would love to talk about Season of Infamy, but I only today learned about the Nightwing DLC glitch. So gently caress me, I guess. This game is still very good, yet still disappointing. Knight is definitely not the best in the franchise and the tank poo poo sucks. It just sucks. I can't think of a single time I was ever looking forward to a tank section or clamoring for more of them or rushing to the AR tank missions to get more of it. I got WAY more than I ever wanted. And honestly if it weren't in the game at all, I can't imagine I would've ever thought "Man, I wish the Batmobile turned into a tank." It's just stupid. Contrast that with the combat and predator (which I gotta say, I hate the predator maps and challenges this time around) where I actually was excited for every next beat. Dual Predator and Combat? Holy poo poo, I want a full game of that goodness. The game made a lot of fun choices too. It's just not City and if I compare how many times I played through them, this is under Asylum. Only edging out Origins cause it hasn't crashed and I haven't fell through the floor a few times. SonicRulez fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Dec 23, 2015 |
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SonicRulez posted:I would love to talk about Season of Infamy, but I only today learned about the Nightwing DLC glitch. So gently caress me, I guess. Not only were the tank bits unfun and way too numerous, but they had to contrive and contort to a ridiculous degree to even have them. If they were manned tanks instead of "drones", Batman would be poo poo out of luck and would have to EMP them and peel them open to fight the militia inside, which already sounds more fun than what we got. The Knight's plan and everything he said barely made any sense... Dual predator with Robin in the movie studio was the highest point of genuine Batmany fun in the whole series for me, though.
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i actually enjoy some of the tank battles except for the cloudburst which sucks balls. combat and predator options were given so many new toys, options, and poo poo. Loved stuff like voice recognition fakeouts and especially liked how predator sections reacted to your oft-used strategies by moving only in pairs, x'ing out voice mod if you used it too much, etc. The DLC and PC release are absolute garbage but this was still my fave of the series. That being said the final riddler race for catwoman's segment made me rage harder than any game in years and I thought the lack of actual bosses was a tremendous disappointment. poo poo, I can't even remember any boss battles at all, now that I think about it. You'd think they'd learn from Origins. especially when it came to drawing in new and unique villain battles (deathstroke, copperhead, deadshot, firefly) but instead you get virtually nothing. You don't even fight Man-Bat. Even Arkham City had better bosses. Even though this was one of my lower faves of the year I have to admit Rocksteady hosed up their reputation royal and the DLC they put out is laughable. I can't imagine being optimistic about what they're doing for the future. We're talking about a company who eschewed QA testing just so they could keep the identity of Arkham Knight a secret (lol)
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