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I really don't like how the raids are split into floors. It's dumb and annoying.
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Mordiceius posted:I really don't like how the raids are split into floors. It's dumb and annoying. Excuse me but you're just playing the game wrong. The setup is perfect. Yoship can do no wrong!
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Dec 22, 2015 21:04
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Mordiceius posted:Out of curiosity - what would you guys like to see other than a generic answer of "more content"? I'd like to see 3 dungeons in every new EXDR. Having only Fractal and Neverreap to do last patch was mind numbing and I'm already tired of only having Arboretum and Pharhard this time around. I'm just one person, I know, but I have no interest in LoV and would rather that time had been spent on an extra dungeon. primaltrash fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Dec 22, 2015 |
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Dec 22, 2015 21:05
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Mordiceius posted:Like I've said, we got slightly less gameplay content in 3.1 than 2.1, but it's not like it was SUPER MAXIMUM SIGNIFICANTLY less. I remember these same "There's nothing to do" complaints back in 2.1. Again, I'm not trying to make excuses for the state of the game, because I agree, I wish there was more to do in the game. I'm just playing devil's advocate to hopefully add some perspective. I think the big problem is that when 2.1 added all that stuff, it was new content. Until 2.1 we didn't have any extreme primals to fight, we didn't have any bardmodes, and we didn't have a 24-man raid. In a way, 3.0 things away from us that we already had by making them irrelevant, which is the way of themepark MMOs, but the things we lost didn't get replaced for half a year, and then some of the new things weren't as much better as the old things as one might have hoped. I'm sure Knights of the Round EX is great, I haven't had a chance to try it yet, but Void Ark is just sort of... there. The gear is ugly and not very useful. Once a week you can upgrade something to i210, but it's not as good as what you might get from diadem and you can't upgrade your weapon because then nobody would give a poo poo about relic. Then we have dev time going into things like Lord of Verminion (which would be a fun little distraction if the rest of the game had stuff to do) and Diadem (which ended up being a lovely facade of what I thought it was going to be), and the dev team acting like they're out of touch all the sudden. Personally, I'd like to see some (compared to now) bold job balance changes in each patch and some content that's a little more than "don't stand in the orange circles, dps harder" at all levels of gameplay. Mordiceius posted:I really don't like how the raids are split into floors. It's dumb and annoying. I actually agree with this. It works for some things, but it also reminds me that the closest FFXIV will ever get to Karazhan or Ulduar (the best content WoW ever managed to have) are the 24-mans and they're too much of a clusterfuck to ever be as rad as Karazhan and Ulduar.
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Dec 22, 2015 21:09
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Checked a few pages back and didn't see it but new players should check out the current Humble Bundle. This week is a Squeenix bundle and if you pay more than the average price ($3.99 last I checked) one of the unlocks is the base FFXIV with the free month. Not too bad for $4 bucks plus you get Just Cause 2 which is loving amazing and Front Mission Evolved which is a passable 3rd-person shooter.
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Dec 22, 2015 22:04
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Holyshoot posted:When you pace your raid content releases as slow as wow but with a third of the bosses I'm not surprised. I, too, remember when Final Fantasy XIV went more than a year without any new raid content.
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Dec 22, 2015 22:07
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Empress Theonora posted:I, too, remember when Final Fantasy XIV went more than a year without any new raid content. I do too, it was called the time between 1 and 2.0 
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Dec 22, 2015 22:19
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Mordiceius posted:Out of curiosity - what would you guys like to see other than a generic answer of "more content"? I've mentioned it before, but a focus on increasing the dynamism of current content to require more on-the-fly thinking as opposed to rote memorization. Left 4 Dead and its ilk are what I'm thinking of, specifically: PVE-focused, but with randomized encounters that test your group's ability to adapt. I'd also like to see them increase the interactivity of combat, but that'd require a lot more risk/reward management than the game currently has, and I doubt they'd want to potentially chase people away with a change like that. Klades posted:Personally, I'd like to see some (compared to now) bold job balance changes in each patch and some content that's a little more than "don't stand in the orange circles, dps harder" at all levels of gameplay. To expand on the above combat point a little: the issue is that the current combat system is set up in such a way to actively discourage anything except "Simon Says" gameplay of varying complexity. This is by-and-large a consequence of two things:
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Dec 22, 2015 22:24
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I think it would be cool if they put in something akin to a horde mode. Waves of enemies, bosses interspersed, see how long you can hold out. Doesn't have to be completely random, as many aren't. But have levels of difficulty. Could even do it base defense style where there are walls/turrets that could be manned. Could be fun.
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Dec 22, 2015 22:28
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Honestly, I think my main content wish (and I'm still extremely pleased with HW overall, and it specifically improved on a lot of stuff I thought was lacking in 2.0, like the leveling experience and zone design) is if there were still three expert roulette dungeons. In between patches I don't play all that much FF14 and that's fine, but what I do like to do is run dungeons so more dungeons would be nice. The 3.1 expert dungeons are better than the 3.0 ones, though, and since I'm finally making an effort to level alts I'm seeing a lot of dungeons I haven't run to death already on the leveling roulette and the level 50 roulette.
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Dec 22, 2015 22:35
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Heavensward has been 10% good (story) and 90% dumb
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Dec 22, 2015 22:38
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Yeah, I really would like to go back to the 3 dungeon Expert setup from ARR. Having only 2 dungeons for Roulette is really lame and 3 was the sweet spot to give things variety.
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Dec 22, 2015 22:44
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ilifinicus posted:Heavensward has been 10% good (story) and 90% dumb 100% agree. Loved the story missions and I am highly likely to resub for 2.2 or the next exp for them. But FF14 has kind of awful end game and little reason to stay subbed if it is not your only game or your main social gateway.
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Dec 22, 2015 22:49
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Empress Theonora posted:I, too, remember when Final Fantasy XIV went more than a year without any new raid content. I guess WoW doesn't release raids except for their last content patch of each expansion according to you? January 2006 - TBC with 3 different raids. May 2006 - Black Temple March 2007 - Sunwell added November 2008 - WOTLK released with 3 raids April 2009 - Ulduar Added August 2009 - TOC added December 2009 - ICC added December 2010 - cata released with 3 raids June 2011 - Firelands added November 2011 - Dragon Soul added September 2012 - MOP released with 3 raids March 2013 - Throne of thunder added September 2013 - SoO added So looking at that list they release their second raid around the 6 month mark after the initial expansion raids. So if new alex isn't out by January they are past when WoW typically releases their raids with a third of the bosses. So my point still stands.
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Dec 22, 2015 23:50
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It's getting OF-ish but I think they really need to reconsider how they structure raiding and the rest of end game as a consequence of this. A lot of these complaints aren't new, it's just that before they played off their strengths and the good things made people happy enough to ignore the bad. Last 2 patches what they once did well they have managed to gently caress up in some way.
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Dec 22, 2015 23:54
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I don't mind the two dungeon expert roulette because I only run a couple of those a week at most. 50/60/trial are more important towards my relic than expert and I'm doing more than enough poo poo besides expert roulette that gives esoterics that I don't need it. If someone is only running expert, then yeah, that would really suck. But there really is good reason to do a lot of other things too and then you're not stuck with too much monotony. Also I threw together a group pretty quickly mid day today and we did a lot of newbie carrying through first coil and it was a ton of loving fun. We got a fuckton of poetics for our troubles and a few people got to see a bunch or all of coil. There are so many really fun fights and it's not at all hard doing it unsynced.
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Dec 22, 2015 23:58
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Anyone interested in a relic dungeon marathon in a couple hours?
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Mordiceius posted:Out of curiosity - what would you guys like to see other than a generic answer of "more content"? -Back to the 3 expert dungeons for each new patch. -A bit more challenge in the 24 man dungeon. Gimmicky fights are a lot more fun than tank and spanks. -More difficulty levels for primals. I think what they did with Ifrit/Titan/Garuda with normal/hard/extreme is the way to go, but I'd also love it if they added level 60 versions of old primal fights. -A bit more focus on lower level content. Maybe have a thing where a random roulette each day gets a bonus to the tokens/money/exp it hands out. -Some reason to do FATEs other than leveling/grand company tokens/relics.
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Dec 23, 2015 00:01
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I would also be happy to see an additional middle difficulty in Alex, and more loving around potential in Vark. I'm heartbroken that the latter isn't as entertaining as CT, and I want a more challenging time than normal Alex but haven't the time or inclination to be dedicated to Savage.
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Dec 23, 2015 00:07
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Mordiceius posted:I really don't like how the raids are split into floors. It's dumb and annoying. Not seeing a problem.
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Dec 23, 2015 01:13
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Not enough base pop for my liking.
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Dec 23, 2015 01:26
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Not having to deal with reclearing trash every time we reset a raid more than makes up for boring circular arenas to me.
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Dec 23, 2015 01:44
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Kagon posted:Not having to deal with reclearing trash every time we reset a raid more than makes up for boring circular arenas to me. Plus having the one pull of trash serves as a nice reminder of the pointless bullshit you're missing.
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Dec 23, 2015 02:06
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Mordiceius posted:Any district or what not you're aiming for? I'm going to be camping out in Mist to get a medium house. If you're just relinquishing the plot why don't you give it away? Or at least tell someone at what time you're relinquishing it so that some random nobody doesn't grab it?
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Dec 23, 2015 03:17
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If it happens automatically he gets a bunch of gil, right?
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Dec 23, 2015 03:19
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picked up the base game in the humble bundle. finished installing, told it to connect to Primal and now i'm just sitting staring at the loading screen serioulsy poo poo's been loading for like five minutes
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Dec 23, 2015 03:32
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nuru posted:If it happens automatically he gets a bunch of gil, right? He could still sell it for however much he's getting if that's the case.
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Dec 23, 2015 03:32
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goddammit ffxiv i wanna play an anime with anime weapons and stab things with them connect already
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Dec 23, 2015 03:38
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Fister Roboto posted:He could still sell it for however much he's getting if that's the case. That's a much harder proposition. I'll receive 24m from the reclamation. If I wanted to sell it, the person would be willing to pay 54m (24m to me and 30m for the plot). No one is going to do that with reclamation happening soon. The best I can do is just let goons know it's coming up soon so someone can claim it if they want.
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Dec 23, 2015 03:38
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Literally The Worst posted:goddammit ffxiv i wanna play an anime with anime weapons and stab things with them connect already 100% chance the server is full currently and you won't be able to create a character anyway.
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Dec 23, 2015 03:39
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Mordiceius posted:100% chance the server is full currently and you won't be able to create a character anyway. rip do you still have to log in at 8 AM to make a dude
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Dec 23, 2015 03:42
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Literally The Worst posted:rip Yep. I honestly just made it on a low-pop server and then transferred, but I can understand not wanting to spend $15.
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Dec 23, 2015 03:46
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vOv posted:Yep. yeah i mean i bought the humble bundle because it was five bucks to try it out, i dont want to invest too much if i don't like it but its not even bringing up a thing where i can pick a server so moot point
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Literally The Worst posted:yeah i mean i bought the humble bundle because it was five bucks to try it out, i dont want to invest too much if i don't like it That's definitely not normal, even during peak hours. Try restarting/resetting your router/all the usual computer voodoo?
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vOv posted:That's definitely not normal, even during peak hours. Try restarting/resetting your router/all the usual computer voodoo? only thing i haven't tried yet is restarting the computer and reinstalling ffxiv. not surprised that the router didn't fix it, my desktop is wired. dunno what the poo poo is going on with this stupid game
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Dec 23, 2015 03:56
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Holyshoot posted:I guess WoW doesn't release raids except for their last content patch of each expansion according to you? My point was that WoW releases patches fairly quickly after an expansion hits and then dies for a year+ in between expansions. Siege of Orgrimmar came out in September 2013, and then WoW had absolutely no content at all until November 2014. Highmaul was opened in December 2014 and Blackrock Foundry opened in February 2015. 6.1 didn't have any raids whatsoever in it, so the next raid content didn't come until June 2015, when 6.2 brought Hellfire Citadel. And then there was nothing, and will be nothing until Legion comes out some time before September 2016 (!).
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Dec 23, 2015 04:06
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Literally The Worst posted:only thing i haven't tried yet is restarting the computer and reinstalling ffxiv. not surprised that the router didn't fix it, my desktop is wired. just restarted the pc, still nothing. i'm officially out of ideas.
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Dec 23, 2015 04:10
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Are you using a VPN (Battleping, etc) that expired?
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Dec 23, 2015 04:18
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KaneTW posted:Are you using a VPN (Battleping, etc) that expired? i'm functionally computer illiterate, i'm not doing anything except hooking my computer to the router with a piece of cat5 and clicking launch
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Can you connect to any of the other data centers, or is it just primal giving you trouble? If you can't connect to any of them, it might be your firewall.
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