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Thinky Whale
Aug 2, 2012

All that most maddens and torments; all that stirs up the lees of things; all truth with malice in it; all that cracks the sinews and cakes the brain; all the subtle demonisms of life and thought; all evil were visibly personified, and made practically assailable in Fry.
There are less erotic words than "knickers," but not many.

quote:

All the people of Bear City at least while they were in the city wore only the scantiest of clothing; small shorts, mini skirts and leggings.

Wait, does that mean Aristotle was wearing that too?

My favorite part is that there are more words devoted to the fact that her underwear is biodegradable than to the actual sex.

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KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Thinky Whale posted:

There are less erotic words than "knickers," but not many.

For the very best in British sex-related slang, I always come back to this: http://www.b3ta.com/questions/goodadvice/post730459

It is an utter masterpiece, and obviously :nws: as all hell.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!

Samfucius posted:

There are also some synopses of other books from the same publisher:

I thought that particular style of inept typography and graphic design was familiar.


I have read The Last Days Of Christ The Vampire! I had an old girlfriend who collected every vampire novel she could find, of any to zero literary quality (which is how I read the Wraeththu books) and she had this one. She correctly described it as one of the worst things she had ever read. If I recall correctly there's arguments with anarchists and Stalinists and eventually SPOILERS the protagonist finds Christ alive in a sub-basement of the Pentagon sustaining the whole edifice of imperialist capitalism. I might be misremembering, this was fifteen years ago, but I never plan to go check. I will say it was much better-written and proofread than the excerpt from the book you had.

The author was also one of the contributors to Factsheet Five in its last year of steady operation.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Oddly enough the whole "down in a mine for hundreds of years" thing was the original origin for Buck Rogers.

FactsAreUseless
Feb 16, 2011

Thinky Whale posted:

There are less erotic words than "knickers," but not many.
Oi, luv, yer makin' me knickers moist then.

Samfucius
Sep 8, 2010

And if you gaze long enough into a nest, the nest will gaze back into you.

Thinky Whale posted:

My favorite part is that there are more words devoted to the fact that her underwear is biodegradable than to the actual sex.

There's just so much leadup to it, and then "We hosed until it was quite dark outside."

If the rest of the book were better I might think it was a conscious choice for humor.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Samfucius posted:

There's just so much leadup to it, and then "We hosed until it was quite dark outside."

If the rest of the book were better I might think it was a conscious choice for humor.

He should've bookended it with a description of the dusk. It was quite dark, really. Like a forest pond in the shade of a looming oak. Around it, reeds and ...

GottaPayDaTrollToll
Dec 3, 2009

by Lowtax

Samfucius posted:


Oh yeah Plato also exists in the story but Aristotle has beef with him because instead of furthering society he just dresses up little kids as animals and makes them sing stupid songs.


What I really want to know is, where was Diogenes during all this? You'd think a guy who eschewed property and spit in the face of social norms would be the perfect character for a screed about anarchism that uses Greek philosophers as mouthpieces.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



GottaPayDaTrollToll posted:

What I really want to know is, where was Diogenes during all this? You'd think a guy who eschewed property and spit in the face of social norms would be the perfect character for a screed about anarchism that uses Greek philosophers as mouthpieces.

I'd put money on the name Aristotle, and possibly Plato, being the full extent of the author's knowledge of Greek philosophy.

Samfucius
Sep 8, 2010

And if you gaze long enough into a nest, the nest will gaze back into you.

My other favorite part is the super self-indulgent "Available at bookstores not run by zombies."

:rolleyes:

Samfucius
Sep 8, 2010

And if you gaze long enough into a nest, the nest will gaze back into you.

Snapchat A Titty posted:

I'd put money on the name Aristotle, and possibly Plato, being the full extent of the author's knowledge of Greek philosophy.

Bingo. Absolutely nowhere does the author make any attempt to tie the anarchist stuff into any actual Greek philosophy. He just picked a name people would respect and ran with it.

Hellequin
Feb 26, 2008

You Scream! You open your TORN, ROTTED, DECOMPOSED MOUTH AND SCREAM!

GottaPayDaTrollToll posted:

What I really want to know is, where was Diogenes during all this? You'd think a guy who eschewed property and spit in the face of social norms would be the perfect character for a screed about anarchism that uses Greek philosophers as mouthpieces.

gently caress even Epicurus (communal living, equality of the sexes, shared pleasures) would fit the role better than loving Aristotle. I suppose that the author didn't read book ten of the Politics and Aristotle's justification for natural slavery.

Shame that Hegesias of Cyrene's book Death by Starvation never survived. Cicero mentions it in a letter, it was a philosophical tract that hung around a dialogue between a man who is resolved to die by starvation and his friends; the man convinces them over the course of the dialogue that death is preferable to living because misery and pain is unavoidable. Apparently its depictions of human suffering were so overpowering that numerous people killed themselves after reading it. The Cyrenaics were an interesting school, extreme hedonists.

My submission for terrible book: I, Che Guevara: A Novel. Che Guevara wasn't killed in Bolivia but returns to Cuba when Castro signs a deal with the U.S. allowing for free elections in exchange for the lifting of embargoes. Guevara runs as a libertarian (essentially) with an anti-communist and anti-capitalist platform telling people to rule themselves, the U.S. government freaks the gently caress out but Che wins in the end. I got it as a Christmas present one year from a somewhat clueless aunt who thought it would interest me because of my politics. It's wholly awful, also apparently it was written, under pseudonym, by someone in the U.S. intelligence community, so that explains its hosed up politics. As for the prose, I can only describe it as sub Tom Clancy.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Hellequin posted:

Shame that Hegesias of Cyrene's book Death by Starvation never survived. Cicero mentions it in a letter, it was a philosophical tract that hung around a dialogue between a man who is resolved to die by starvation and his friends; the man convinces them over the course of the dialogue that death is preferable to living because misery and pain is unavoidable. Apparently its depictions of human suffering were so overpowering that numerous people killed themselves after reading it. The Cyrenaics were an interesting school, extreme hedonists.

Wow it's like some kind of mashup between Goethe's Werther and BLIT. An idea or argument so persuasive, you have to follow it and kill yourself.

See also Max Barry: Lexicon which is very entertaining.

Carthag Tuek has a new favorite as of 01:03 on Dec 13, 2015

Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


The undisputed world champion of wrestling effortposting

King Doom posted:

What is it about Sci-Fi that makes authors loose their minds? I picked up a book awhile back - Hunting Party by Elizabeth Moon.

I think it ultimately boils down to the fact that in the end, all writing is essentially a glorified form of masturbation. Some people are just worse at disguising that fact than others.

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat

Cornwind Evil posted:

I think it ultimately boils down to the fact that in the end, all writing is essentially a glorified form of masturbation. Some people are just worse at disguising that fact than others.
Nah, writing can be masturbation or it can be intercourse. It's dependent on whether the author's actually trying to communicate or is just imagining the fulfillment of their own wishes; there's absolutely a distinction. (Blatant pandering to a target audience is, I dunno, a handjob or something.)

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

Sic Semper Goon
Mar 1, 2015

Eu tu?

:zaurg:

Switchblade Switcharoo

Hellequin posted:

My submission for terrible book: I, Che Guevara: A Novel. Che Guevara wasn't killed in Bolivia but returns to Cuba when Castro signs a deal with the U.S. allowing for free elections in exchange for the lifting of embargoes. Guevara runs as a libertarian (essentially) with an anti-communist and anti-capitalist platform telling people to rule themselves, the U.S. government freaks the gently caress out but Che wins in the end. I got it as a Christmas present one year from a somewhat clueless aunt who thought it would interest me because of my politics. It's wholly awful, also apparently it was written, under pseudonym, by someone in the U.S. intelligence community, so that explains its hosed up politics. As for the prose, I can only describe it as sub Tom Clancy.

By an astonishing coincidence, I just read who made that novel about an hour before I read your post.

It was Gary Hart, former Senator for Colorado, writing under the pseudonym of John Blackthorn.

SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL
Feb 21, 2006

Holy Moly! DARKSEID IS!


Was this the YA cringefest of male protag is bullied for liking ponies (that he only got into because little sister watches it) but gets a girlfriend in the end because she's an uber-fan who appreciates his ~*~sensitivity~*~? I am basing this on the cover alone.

When I think of terrible books I will always think of Dresden Files. There are certainly a lot more terrible books out there, but no other book in recent memory made me want to toss it into a wall after the first few chapters (and I only refrained from doing so because it belonged to a friend). All the "but the writing gets better" or "Harry is supposed to be chauvinist" or "but animated fossil T-Rex" excuses in the world a good series make, and my understanding is there's really no character development, either. No wonder a bunch of goons swear by them.

dirksteadfast
Oct 10, 2010
Every once in a while I consider writing romance-parody novels, but then I see some of the stuff that's out there and wonder if even half the readers would understand it's a joke. (Managed to piss off an entire online community of self-published writers for daring to imply that, regardless of actual content, romance novels are seen as low quality erotica by many people)

For content, Xenocide by OSC has been mentioned before...multiple times...but it bears repeating. I won't defend Ender's Game as some sort of masterpiece, but it was at least fun and a little escapist for an awkward dork in advanced courses in high school (realizing years later that it's problematic to continue to identify with Ender). But you can only take so many passages of a character literally following cracks in a floorboard before you have to give up on a book.

Dr Jankenstein
Aug 6, 2009

Hold the newsreader's nose squarely, waiter, or friendly milk will countermand my trousers.
So the guy behind the infamous Wild Animus (which holds the distinction of "the only book everyone in jail started but nobody finished") has written more! Another fully interactive experience complete with app!
http://www.thehopeweseek.com

... How long until he goes bankrupt thanks to trying to live his dream?

Gertrude Perkins
May 1, 2010

Gun Snake

dont talk to gun snake

Drops: human teeth

AA is for Quitters posted:

So the guy behind the infamous Wild Animus (which holds the distinction of "the only book everyone in jail started but nobody finished") has written more! Another fully interactive experience complete with app!
http://www.thehopeweseek.com

... How long until he goes bankrupt thanks to trying to live his dream?

Holy poo poo, this is the same guy?! My university's theatre and film dept had a HUGE box full of copies of this book and accompanying CD!

Hellequin
Feb 26, 2008

You Scream! You open your TORN, ROTTED, DECOMPOSED MOUTH AND SCREAM!

Sic Semper Goon posted:

By an astonishing coincidence, I just read who made that novel about an hour before I read your post.

It was Gary Hart, former Senator for Colorado, writing under the pseudonym of John Blackthorn.

He was one of the "Atari Democrats", this explains so much.

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦

AA is for Quitters posted:

So the guy behind the infamous Wild Animus (which holds the distinction of "the only book everyone in jail started but nobody finished") has written more! Another fully interactive experience complete with app!
http://www.thehopeweseek.com

... How long until he goes bankrupt thanks to trying to live his dream?

I got a copy of this when I went to a music festival and someone was handing them out. By far the most prominently discarded thing - they weren't trash so nobody wanted to just throw them away, so you would find several copies sitting on fence posts or floating around in the mud

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



https://gumroad.com/l/GirlCorrupted posted:

A Girl Corrupted by the Internet is the Summoned Hero?!

"My family name is Yugano. My given name is Yuuki. I have no redeeming qualities." So begins this light novel of a girl corrupted by the Internet, and then summoned to another world. She's jaded from having already read many stories like that - but will that prepare her for what awaits in this world? Of course not! But she's going to plunge ahead anyway, and not slow down for anything!

Eliezer Yudkowsky is the author of Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality and Rationality: From AI to Zombies (formerly the Less Wrong Sequences). He is a decision theorist specializing in self-reference and reflection, a fact which unstoppably infects his writing no matter how frivolous.

Yudkowsky thought about trying to publish this book anonymously, as an alleged translation of a Japanese light novel whose original nobody would ever be able to find. He gave up when he realized he couldn't possibly stop people from knowing that it was him.

Sample chapters 1-4 may be found at: http://www.yudkowsky.net/other/fiction/girl-intercorrupted/



quote:

Table of Contents

Prologue: A virgin maiden is already corrupted?!
The chance of success is—?!
The key to power is—!?
The rebellion has already lost?!
I’m going to be sacrificed?!
Is this my story’s shocking twist?!
The true key to power is—?!
Do even I dare?!
Am I going to wimp out?!
Do you really think you can?!
The meaning of probability is—
You did it because—?!
The final bargain!
©2016 by Eliezer Yudkowsky.

quote:

Foreword

This is my attempt at translating a light novel from Japan, only the original source material doesn’t exist.

The light novel is a Japanese custom which aims at easy reading. I think of it as an art form in which only the story’s bones remain.

If you want to read a translation of a Japanese light novel, I liked “Evil God Average” (Jashin Average) as translated by the Fifth Holy Sheeprabbit. That might help you to appreciate this story, since it conveys the genre to which this story belongs.

For those of you who haven’t read any light novels before:

A remarkable portion of light novels are about people being transported from one world to another. Japan has easier ideas about copyright, so their literary system more often contains many works on the same theme.

That theme began with heroes from our world being transported to another world to fight the Demon Lord.

Now there are light novels about the Demon Lord dying, being reincarnated in our world as a high-schooler, and then being transported to another world as one of the adversarial side characters in a romantic video game. Or the hero is a man from our world, reincarnated as an elven girl, who has already become an absurdly powerful adventurer, but now works incognito as a receptionist. I’m not joking.

Light novels also have a unique writing style I’m trying to imitate, including this easy style of author’s notes. I don’t think I do it well (laughs). Maybe I’ll improve?

This story was supposed to be completely silly. Please keep that in mind. I failed at that by the end of the second chapter, but still, that’s the origin.

The main character doesn’t always agree with the author about decision theory. It’d be silly to think we’d agree about things that are less objective.

I have nothing else to say about this story for now, so you may as well read it.

— Eliezer Yudkowsky, Nov 2015

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!
aka Pounded In The Butt By My Own Girl with Red Tidday Up and White Tidday Down Corrupted by the Internet who is the Summoned Hero?! by Roko's Tinglisk

this is an underage girl who is supposedly saying this posted:

Though I am a little worried. I’ve never gone more than a day or two without giving myself release. Even when I tried to deny myself for perverted reasons, my willpower failed. I hope that I can clear up this Wicked Emperor matter in a month, and not go insane with repressed desires before then.

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat
ugh ugh get it away

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

Yudkowsky is living, breathing proof of why we need bullies in our schools.

On an unrelated note I bought a copy of Seven Deadly Wonders for a dollar and gave it to my fiancé. I am excited to hear her thoughts on Grizzled Badass McRobotarm's adventures with Awesome Pet Hawk and Precocious Magic Girl.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!
red tidday UP white tidday DOWN review:

i have read it. (did not pay for it.)

* it is self consciously a pastiche of a trash genre, and that's fine y'know. it has no pretensions to quality
* i observably have no literary standards and read worse fanfic
* as a story it's reasonably constructed
* (the intro is fatuous)
* contains no actual porn
* i laughed out loud once
* will probably not read it a second time
* is not worth 99c
* but is not actually an offence against all human dignity
* just some of it

Admiral Bosch
Apr 19, 2007
Who is Admiral Aken Bosch, and what is that old scoundrel up to?
I'm going gonna hunt through 25 pages just to see if someone else posted this obscure piece of poo poo, but a buddy of mine had this sitting on his toilet tank for the longest time(I assume to baffle his houseguests).

quote:

"This Book is based on the turning point for Earth into a new era of space travel and the beginning of the Age of Aquarius. The story focuses on one Man by the Name of David Braymer and his adventures from High school teacher to 1st Science Officer on board the Lunar Base 1 Mobile Base Station and his encounters with Alien Life forms through out our universe and the space Battle of all battles David experiences. I hope you enjoy the many adventures of David Braymer and his conquest in space and our journey into the Age of Aquarius."

It was really, really bad.

http://www.amazon.com/Moon-People-Dale-M-Courtney/dp/1436372135

TheKennedys
Sep 23, 2006

By my hand, I will take you from this godforsaken internet
I dunno if I'm the odd one out here, but I watched the first six episodes of The Magicians on SyFy, then picked up the ebook - the book seems so incredibly slow and dull compared to the show. It's one of those books that's described as "sublime" in reviews but I just couldn't get into it. The show took some serious creative liberties to the point it's barely even the same story, but I feel like the show version would have made a much better book. Maybe I'm just jaded on urban fantasy at this point.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Once you get through the school stuff (which is only a part of the first book) the pace picks up quite a bit.

grittyreboot
Oct 2, 2012

Speaking of The Magicians, there's a part in the book where their teacher turns the students into weird ferret creatures and has them gently caress each other. The purpose of which is to make them feel so awkward around one another that they devote themselves entirely to their studies.

Really I hated the whole aspect of a bunch of pretentious nerds doing horrible things to one another . I get that it's the point, but it doesn't mean that it's particularly engaging to me.

Whiz Palace
Dec 8, 2013
Is that not also the bog-standard "fantasy author bends story to include his hosed-up fetish" thing, or does it not scan that way?

Klaus88
Jan 23, 2011

Violence has its own economy, therefore be thoughtful and precise in your investment

Whiz Palace posted:

Is that not also the bog-standard "fantasy author bends story to include his hosed-up fetish" thing, or does it not scan that way?

I'm more surprised by sci-fi that doesn't overload on the fetish stuff then not at this point.

James Corey. You are incredibly not creepy and that makes you special in a field of creeps. :allears:

GottaPayDaTrollToll
Dec 3, 2009

by Lowtax
I'd like to nominate the works of T.L. Winslow (TLW), "the World's Greatest Genius" (tm), which he has been kind enough to host and share freely with the rest of us. I especially recommend "Isn't Jack In Jail? Heavy Lesbianism". It's written from the perspective of a 25th century woman trying to explain to a cryogenically frozen 21st century woman how men were made extinct in a 500 year campaign of lesbian supremacy, jumping around from century to century with no real overarching plot. It's as bizarre, conspiratorial, and pornographic as you'd expect (if not more so) and one of the longer substories is called "Space Cunnilingus". It's hard to really get across how strange it is without doing a full Let's Read, but here are a couple choice lines:

quote:

The project is the creation of larger and larger orbiting racemix colonies, to lead eventually to whole orbiting cities of racemix dickless citizens.

quote:

This was a dick evacuation. We were witnessing the quiet exit of the last dicks from our island.

Punished Chuck
Dec 27, 2010

Klaus88 posted:

I'm more surprised by sci-fi that doesn't overload on the fetish stuff then not at this point.

James Corey. You are incredibly not creepy and that makes you special in a field of creeps. :allears:

It probably helps that James Corey is a pen name used for the collaboration of two authors. Like a fetish check-and-balance system.

Postal Parcel
Aug 2, 2013
There's a book I once "read"(previewed on Amazon, so it's an Amazon book) a long while ago, about some space adventurer or whatever. While that may not be the most descriptive summary about the book, the important part is how the story was written. It's very...simplistic. The sentences are very short, lack flavor, and feel like they were written by someone without the ability to put real emotion in their lines. An example passage might be something like:
"Franklin was an astronaut. He worked in a space ship. He was station in Space Station 5..."

It's not as if it seemed the author was an ESL, but it still read really weird, which added to the humor of what seemed like it was supposed to be a serious scifi book.

e:
Those loving chapter names.
If you're going to make loving chapter names like that, stick with it until the end! Don't just half rear end and go from "Do you really think you can?!" to "The meaning of probability is—". And stick with one version of interrobang man

Postal Parcel has a new favorite as of 00:21 on Mar 1, 2016

Poor Miserable Gurgi
Dec 29, 2006

He's a wisecracker!

TheKennedys posted:

I dunno if I'm the odd one out here, but I watched the first six episodes of The Magicians on SyFy, then picked up the ebook - the book seems so incredibly slow and dull compared to the show. It's one of those books that's described as "sublime" in reviews but I just couldn't get into it. The show took some serious creative liberties to the point it's barely even the same story, but I feel like the show version would have made a much better book. Maybe I'm just jaded on urban fantasy at this point.

I thought the setting and magic was interesting in the book for a while, and that carried it longer than it should have. I don't really like "lovely people do lovely things" stories, but it felt like almost a satire on Harry Potter and monomyth stories where the main character realizes he's not that special and he fucks up his life and relationships with his own inferiority complex. That seemed interesting, until I started to get the feeling Lev Grossman was as petty and vindictive as his characters.

Then the end fucks up any point the book may have had by having a bunch of forgotten characters show up out of nowhere to tell the main character, who has earned nothing and deserves nothing, that he actually is amazing and needs to come be a badass magical king with them. I honestly expected it to be a loving dream sequence, it felt so hollow and tacked on just to open up for sequels.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Whiz Palace posted:

Is that not also the bog-standard "fantasy author bends story to include his hosed-up fetish" thing, or does it not scan that way?

its supremely not sexy at all

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Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.
On vacation, I picked up a copy of Untold Story by Monica Ali. I am grateful that it was picked from a free book bin. Here is the plot:

Princess Diana faked her own death by jumping off her rich boyfriend's yacht while he was sleeping and swimming to meet her old personal assistant, who helped her emigrate to America. (The car crash that actually killed Princess Diana is referenced, but it wasn't fatal in the book.) The she starts a new life in a small town and works at a dog shelter.

Holy poo poo, what a stupid loving book. It was so stupid I gave it to my parents and they both read it because they also found it stupid. It was amazing.

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