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hangedman1984
Jul 25, 2012

cbservo posted:

God loving drat it. gently caress you, Brevin.

Hope you're happy, Kentucky.

Hey, I voted for the lukewarm democrat

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Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

hangedman1984 posted:

Hey, I voted for the lukewarm democrat

ill take a any lukewarm democrat over anyone in the modern GOP.

Combed Thunderclap
Jan 4, 2011



GalacticAcid posted:

His Tolentini has a fantastic essay up at Jezebel this morning about navigating the waters of the online outrage machine as the editor of a feminist website.

Well worth the read.

This was really interesting, thanks for sharing! As already stated in the thread, an awful lot of analysis and thinking for little apparent result in editorial policy, but any editorial policy pronouncement would like just end up being its own news story and all the analysis would get discarded in the process.

Gravel Gravy posted:

Sure it does, it's just a completely lazy interpretation of law.

"Sure it seems overboard to expel the student for keeping a pocket knife/midol in their car but zero tolerance." :geno:

This viewpoint is unbearably prevalent. My favorite response to the immigration debate is "they should just follow the law!" Spoken like someone who's never encountered an law that was unethical towards them, of course.

hangedman1984
Jul 25, 2012

Dapper_Swindler posted:

ill take a any lukewarm democrat over anyone in the modern GOP.

Well yeah. Thats why I vote democrat pretty consistently despite not being a fan of them at all, cuz at least they ain't republincans

theblackw0lf
Apr 15, 2003

"...creating a vision of the sort of society you want to have in miniature"
Interesting ideas from Bernie on how to reform the fed. Worth discussing

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/23/opinion/bernie-sanders-to-rein-in-wall-street-fix-the-fed.html?_r=0

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

SumYungGui posted:

Speaking of that


http://www.vox.com/2015/12/23/10656860/coat-hanger-abortion-pregnancy-murder

Coat hanger abortions are making a come back. Who could have possibly ever in a million years have predicted such a bizarre outcome. Just shocking really. Never could have seen it coming. Oh well I guess as long as those dirty sex havers are slutting it up with their slut ways we'll have to put in more bullshit restrictions. It's totally OK though, white women with money, you can still have your moral abortions.

Oh, it's all intentional on the GOP's part. Their message: stop having sex you sluts and brown/black/poor people, you're not breeding people who vote for us.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Almost certainly written by MMT-advocate, frequent Naked Capitalism contributor, and Sanders staff Chief Economist Stephanie Kelton.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

T. Bombastus posted:

This sentence doesn't make any sense.

It makes sense to loving weirdo legalists who think anything legal is therefore moral and just, with an acquittal/no-bill being equal to holy absolution.

Silver Nitrate
Oct 17, 2005

WHAT

greatn posted:

You can't offer to pay for something after you give it away. That's still theft. If she was working at any restaurant, gave away a meal, and then offered to pay for it after she was caught, she would still be fired.

Probably not, most restaurant managers are human beings and are okay with giving hungry kids meals. Especially if it only loving cost $1.70.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Silver Nitrate posted:

Probably not, most restaurant managers are human beings and are okay with giving hungry kids meals. Especially if it only loving cost $1.70.

It's the franchise owner who is the real shitlord (close second to the average customer) when it comes to that kind of thing.

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

You're going to try ponies and you're. Going. To. LOVE. ME!!

GalacticAcid posted:

Jia Tolentini has a fantastic essay up at Jezebel this morning about navigating the waters of the online outrage machine as the editor of a feminist website.

Well worth the read.

(Edited to fix bad typo, phone-posting)

This is a great read. Depressing and thought provoking though. Hmmm. Life is hard.

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

ドーナツダメ!
Random question: Anyone have the link to that Youtube video of a goon asking Hillary her favorite Star Wars movie?

McAlister
Nov 3, 2002

by exmarx
The below hypothetical actually happened to me.


SnakePlissken posted:

It would be kinda like searching your office server - that everybody has permissions for - for a graphic file you need to write a manual for in-house software, and you get all these nudie pics, and you realize you've inadvertently discovered your co-worker's porn stash on the company server, of all places. Are you now guilty of using the company computer for viewing porn?

The idiot didn't just have it on a shared server, he had it on a web server. In the web root. Of a national park service site ( government tie in!)

I found it when I was looking for content not linked to in order to find stuff to delete cause we were running out of space ... Due to his porn.

I was not charged for viewing porn on a government computer because the moment I realized what I was seeing I closed the browser, took that server down for emergency maintenance, then called my boss.

In the follow up investigation created time stamps revealed he'd been doing this for over a year at least. He was charged with misusing government property, lost his job, etc. his laptop was similarly contaminated ... And also full of Indian trust data so we were in a really awkward place where deleting stuff off it could lead to accusations of hiding data related to that lawsuit but not deleting stuff on it meant it would be full of porn when the lawyers started poking at it. Yay being an intern and not having to make those decisions.

saintonan
Dec 7, 2009

Fields of glory shine eternal

Combed Thunderclap posted:

This viewpoint is unbearably prevalent. My favorite response to the immigration debate is "they should just follow the law!" Spoken like someone who's never encountered an law that was unethical towards them, of course.

You mean like abortion laws, or same sex marriage license laws?

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Combed Thunderclap posted:

This was really interesting, thanks for sharing! As already stated in the thread, an awful lot of analysis and thinking for little apparent result in editorial policy, but any editorial policy pronouncement would like just end up being its own news story and all the analysis would get discarded in the process.


This viewpoint is unbearably prevalent. My favorite response to the immigration debate is "they should just follow the law!" Spoken like someone who's never encountered an law that was unethical towards them, of course.

They should obey the law. If they don't like our laws, do like any other foreign interest: hire lobbyists to persuade Congress towards your view.

Illegal immigrants should play by the same rules you and I do, and not be given a special priviledge due to their criminality.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

My Imaginary GF posted:

They should obey the law. If they don't like our laws, do like any other foreign interest: hire lobbyists to persuade Congress towards your view.

Illegal immigrants should play by the same rules you and I do, and not be given a special priviledge due to their criminality.

Someone sounds mad that most of the effective ways to change controversial policy won't employ many lobbyists for lots of easily billed hours.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

FAUXTON posted:

It makes sense to loving weirdo legalists who think anything legal is therefore moral and just

It's nice to know that Qin legalism is still alive and well in today's conservatives.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Raskolnikov38 posted:

It's nice to know that Qin legalism is still alive and well in today's conservatives.

Qin didn't enact laws through a structured process which allowed for bloodless succession and changeover of power and positions.

America has a process, which illegal immigrants do not wish to participate in. If you wish to change American law, organize a well-funded structure, get elected, and change the law.

Tatsuta Age
Apr 21, 2005

so good at being in trouble


AlternateNu posted:

Random question: Anyone have the link to that Youtube video of a goon asking Hillary her favorite Star Wars movie?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czSq6HKwMr0

Dante Logos
Dec 31, 2010

My Imaginary GF posted:

Qin didn't enact laws through a structured process which allowed for bloodless succession and changeover of power and positions.

America has a process, which illegal immigrants do not wish to participate in. If you wish to change American law, organize a well-funded structure, get elected, and change the law.

Well, they are already doing that. Just because they broke the law doesn't mean that they are going to hang their head, say sorry and go back from where they came from. They still have to be charged and officially deported. We haven't become so lawless yet that we are going to round them up, brand them and put them in camps.

Of course, if you want them out so badly, then increase funding and revenue to get the job done. Or severely punish businesses who break the law. Neither of which will happen.

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Dante Logos posted:

Well, they are already doing that. Just because they broke the law doesn't mean that they are going to hang their head, say sorry and go back from where they came from. They still have to be charged and officially deported. We haven't become so lawless yet that we are going to round them up, brand them and put them in camps.

Of course, if you want them out so badly, then increase funding and revenue to get the job done. Or severely punish businesses who break the law. Neither of which will happen.

Unlike all others in the race, both would occur in a Trump administration.

atelier morgan
Mar 11, 2003

super-scientific, ultra-gay

Lipstick Apathy

Raskolnikov38 posted:

It's nice to know that Qin legalism is still alive and well in today's conservatives.

alive and well IN THIS VERY INTERNET FORUM

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
Gregg Abbot of Texas has an awful, nasty idea:

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/johnwright/texas_gov_greg_abbott_banishes_bill_of_rights_display_from_state_capitol

quote:

The display (above), a sort of secular nativity scene sponsored by the Wisconsin-based Freedom From Religion Foundation, showed the founding fathers and the Statue of Liberty looking down at the Bill of Rights in a manger. The group's “Bill of Rights Nativity and Winter Solstice Display" sat in the basement of the Capitol — also home to several Christmas trees as well as a traditional nativity scene — and until Tuesday went largely unnoticed by the general public.

"First, far from promoting morals and the general welfare, the exhibit deliberately mocks Christians and Christianity," Abbott wrote in a letter to the State Preservation Board, which approved the display. "The Biblical scene of the newly born Jesus Christ lying in a manger in Bethlehem lies at the very heart of the Christian faith. Subjecting an image held sacred by millions of Texans to the Foundation’s tasteless sarcasm does nothing to promote morals and the general welfare."

Abbott's letter, which led to the swift removal of the display, isn't terribly surprising. After all, Texas purports to prohibit atheists from running for public office, and the state's Republican agriculture commissioner recently threatened to slap anyone who told him "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas." But the governor seems to have a particular penchant for hypocrisy when it comes to religious freedom.

So, Drawing Mohammed and mocking other religious icons: Okay

Christianity? Now hold on there...

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

UberJew posted:

alive and well IN THIS VERY INTERNET FORUM

i propose we sentence dissidents and intellectuals to death by a thousand shitposts

Junkyard Poodle
May 6, 2011



That is not a good idea for reform, but the critique of former bankers in the fed is valid. Even the premise of cheap money favoring the poor/small firms vs the rich/ large firms is silly.

Junkyard Poodle fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Dec 23, 2015

Talmonis
Jun 24, 2012
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

Because Texas posted:

The state's Republican agriculture commissioner recently threatened to slap anyone who told him "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas."

I feel like this could be comedy gold if he chooses to assault the wrong person. A headline about "Republican Politician has poo poo pushed in by angry retail worker" would bring a smile to my black hearted face.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

AlternateNu posted:

Random question: Anyone have the link to that Youtube video of a goon asking Hillary her favorite Star Wars movie?

Our man in Iowa, forums poster Mr. Hootington.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


quote:

"The Biblical scene of the newly born Jesus Christ lying in a manger in Bethlehem lies at the very heart of the Christian faith. Subjecting an image held sacred by millions of Texans to the Foundation’s tasteless sarcasm does nothing to promote morals and the general welfare."

Man PC really has gone mad. Christians need their safe spaces and blankets otherwise they have their feeling hurt. :ohdear:

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

GalacticAcid posted:

Jia Tolentini has a fantastic essay up at Jezebel this morning about navigating the waters of the online outrage machine as the editor of a feminist website.

Well worth the read.

(Edited to fix bad typo, phone-posting)

That's a very on-point article and one of the reasons women's media is so frustrating.

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde

DemeaninDemon posted:

For one, gently caress Pocatello. It's a hellish pit out near the desert full of Mormons.
They used to have the very best rugby tournament, the Portneuf Classic. Also Center Street Clubhouse, Charley's (the only gay bar around for like 100 miles) and the loving Holidome where I once got drunk with the band Toto.

Of course, I don't have to live there...

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Radish posted:

Man PC really has gone mad. Christians need their safe spaces and blankets otherwise they have their feeling hurt. :ohdear:

What I find so aggravating is that Christmas isn't at the heart of Christianity. The central image of Christianity is the loving Crucifixion and Resurrection.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Joementum posted:

Almost certainly written by MMT-advocate, frequent Naked Capitalism contributor, and Sanders staff Chief Economist Stephanie Kelton.

Good

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

baw
Nov 5, 2008

RESIDENT: LAISSEZ FAIR-SNEZHNEVSKY INSTITUTE FOR FORENSIC PSYCHIATRY

Did he do one for persecuted Muslims on Eid

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



The supervisor was an idiot. In these cases you pull them aside privately and chastise them for not going through the established route to ensure this kid isn't going hungry, and explain to them that I they did right in an inefficient manner, that you agree with their sentiment but here is how we make sure kids are taken care of

What you do not do, and I stress DO NOT DO, to people who are feeding hungry children at Christmas time, is impersonally poo poo can them by mail

Sad that a lot of people will agree with this, because in America property worth even less than 2bux is far more revered and valued than any human life

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

funny thing is none of the conservatives give to fucks about middle eastern christians getting persecuted and or butchered.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

Dapper_Swindler posted:

funny thing is none of the conservatives give to fucks about middle eastern christians getting persecuted and or butchered.

The only christian persecution that matters is how horrible we treat christians in the US by not letting them impose every single belief(that they were told to have, and probably didn't even come from the actual bible) on the entire population.

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

Dapper_Swindler posted:

agreed. it doesnt help anyone and it ends up pushing many/alot of people away. you can't outrage as core part of your ideals and then use for every situation. its not going mean poo poo after a while and people are going to see you as a thin skinned prude/rear end in a top hat. but when something actually hosed up and offensive and you cry outrage, no one is going to believe you. it doesnt help that most of these people want to pretend to be "cultural critics" so they poison the criticism well too. they misconstrue criticism for offence. its why i have started to give up on internet/college left/feminism. hopefully people can turn it around.

PC gone mad

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Dapper_Swindler posted:

funny thing is none of the conservatives give to fucks about middle eastern christians getting persecuted and or butchered.

Oh yes they do and they blame Obama for it.

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Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

I've given up on leftism because everyone is too outraged about things that don't affect me all the time. Rand Paul 2016

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