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jivjov posted:She was the one to drop the shields for Finn and Han, and was sitting right there when they said "we won't have much time to rescue Rey"
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March of The Resistance is pretty great and it's been stuck in my head for days. I love the gentler, more subtle soundtrack, it's just different from what I initially expected. Rey's Theme is also great, as is The Jedi Steps/Finale.
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Dec 23, 2015 07:40
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The movie is super fast-paced, there's no time for reflection or Binary Sunset character building. It's a really good story, but it doesn't feel mythical like the original trilogy did. Except for the end, where the meeting with Luke feels very biblical, and that music really sells it. Space Jesus went in exile because he felt responsible for the sins of his student, and here at last is a disciple. I assume Rey training with Luke will be a subplot in episode 8. I hope either the movie itself, or at least a novel or two, incorporate that style of storytelling.
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Dec 23, 2015 09:38
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I really can't stop thinking of this movie. It was so phenomenal. Terminator Genisys and Jurassic World both just made me cynical about nostalgic franchises making a comeback, but this movie made me look like an idiot for my cynicism. And I'm completely fine with that. Star Wars is a series entirely about the characters, and there was not a single one I disliked here. No one was obnoxious or unfunny, which was so refreshing coming from the prequels. Poe is on screen for about ten minutes, and he's a better and more memorable character than anyone from those movies. He and Finn need MUCH more screentime together in the future. In their small time together they were better bros than Anakin and Obi-Wan in the prequels, and their friendship was supposed to be a major plot point. And it was so nice to see Harrison Ford care. When was the last time that happened? The last thing I saw him in was Ender's Game, and he seemed like someone was pointing a gun at him the entire time. Even in Crystal Skull he seemed miserable. But you can tell he had fun here. Maybe the fact he would be killed off gave him a sense of freedom. He wouldn't be burdened by mandatory sequel appearances, so he got to enjoy one last ride as Han Solo. Oh, while I'm here in spoiler town, let me say that Rey pulling the lightsaber out of the snow was as awesome as it was predictable. I don't give a poo poo how much anyone saw it coming, that moment was incredible. I don't mind having to wait to see more of the story, but it pains me that I have to wait 2 years to see Rey/Finn/Poe again. They could just hang out at a Cantina for the entire movie, I don't care. I just want more of them.
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Dec 23, 2015 11:26
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Marin Karin posted:He and Finn need MUCH more screentime together in the future. In their small time together they were better bros than Anakin and Obi-Wan in the prequels, and their friendship was supposed to be a major plot point. I will be 100% satisfied of Episode 8 is mainly just a buddy cop movie starring Finn and Poe.
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Dec 23, 2015 11:28
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Marin Karin posted:And it was so nice to see Harrison Ford care. When was the last time that happened? The last thing I saw him in was Ender's Game, and he seemed like someone was pointing a gun at him the entire time. Even in Crystal Skull he seemed miserable. But you can tell he had fun here. Harrison Ford wanted Han killed off in ROTJ as he felt it was the natural end to the character's arc. I'd imagine it was his one condition to returning after Disney parked the dumptruck of money on his lawn. Harrison Ford in 'Empire of Dreams' documentary, 2004 posted:I though Han Solo should die. I thought he ought to sacrifice himself for the other two characters.... I said 'he's got no mama, he's got no papa, he's got no future, he has no story responsibilities at this point, so let's allow him to commit self-sacrifice' (Quote sourced from The Secret History of Star Wars) Edit: The man himself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coPi6fvskF4 Devol_Tettran fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Dec 23, 2015 |
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Dec 23, 2015 12:26
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Casimir Radon posted:She's already cast in the next one. Well, yes, that's the meta reason she survives. In universe though, she's shown to have plenty of time to escape
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Dec 23, 2015 12:39
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Marin Karin posted:And it was so nice to see Harrison Ford care. When was the last time that happened? The last thing I saw him in was Ender's Game, and he seemed like someone was pointing a gun at him the entire time. Even in Crystal Skull he seemed miserable. But you can tell he had fun here. He cared for 42, but the last time I remember him actually being fun was, I think, 6 Days 7 Nights. Which was in 1998. jivjov posted:Well, yes, that's the meta reason she survives. In universe though, she's shown to have plenty of time to escape You made a good point on the last page, that since she lowered the shields, she would be more aware of the need to evacuate than anyone else from the First Order. thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Dec 23, 2015 |
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Dec 23, 2015 15:57
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thrawn527 posted:You made a good point on the last page, that since she lowered the shields, she would be more aware of the need to evacuate than anyone else from the First Order. Also it's probably a good bet that even if she didn't think lowering the shields was enough, the shields combined with alarm klaxons a few minutes later was probably a good indication that she should get out of that garbage chute asap
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Dec 23, 2015 17:23
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thrawn527 posted:He cared for 42, but the last time I remember him actually being fun was, I think, 6 Days 7 Nights. Which was in 1998. Dude, how the hell could you forget Air Force One? EDIT: Oh, it came out in '97. Carry on.
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Dec 23, 2015 19:35
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jivjov posted:Yeah, Williams traded in bombast for subtlety for the majority of this soundtrack and I really dig it. I could go for one "big" track akin to Duel of the Fates or the Imperial March...but overall this is an amazing score Drone posted:Also it's probably a good bet that even if she didn't think lowering the shields was enough, the shields combined with alarm klaxons a few minutes later was probably a good indication that she should get out of that garbage chute asap
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Dec 23, 2015 20:36
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So, it appears that Disney hosed up and included a line in the Disney Infinity game confirming Rey's identity. I'm sure they'll patch it out, but it's blowing up the internet as we speak. If you want to know, you can do minor googling and find it.
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Dec 24, 2015 04:37
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KurdtLives posted:Isn't Williams ill? I thought I heard in one of these Star Wars threads that he is ailing and didn't really compose that much of the movie. I've not heard that at all. Carteret posted:So, it appears that Disney hosed up and included a line in the Disney Infinity game confirming Rey's identity. I'm sure they'll patch it out, but it's blowing up the internet as we speak. If you want to know, you can do minor googling and find it. The original poster of that video retracted, claiming to have misheard the line.
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Dec 24, 2015 04:42
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I dunno, if you listen to the audio in the video I have no idea what else it could be. Edit: I guess it's one of those you hear what you are told it is things. I hear both things now and don't know what is right lol. I hope it's wrong, because it just seems too predictable if true. Carteret fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Dec 24, 2015 |
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Dec 24, 2015 04:47
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I listened to it, doesn't sound like a spoiler. They wouldn't have hosed up that bad.
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Dec 24, 2015 05:32
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It's not a spoiler. Apparently the identity of Rey hasn't actually been decided yet, and its up to the sequel writers to decide.
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Dec 24, 2015 05:57
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Arcsquad12 posted:It's not a spoiler. Apparently the identity of Rey hasn't actually been decided yet, and its up to the sequel writers to decide. Now that I don't believe at all. There's an outline and a plan for the whole trilogy, and the bare details were more than likely finalized before Episode VII ever was written.
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Dec 24, 2015 05:59
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Carteret posted:I dunno, if you listen to the audio in the video I have no idea what else it could be. I read a comment on one of the videos that said he's saying "Curses!" after taking damage from something.
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Dec 24, 2015 06:12
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My uncle works at disney and said Rey is Lando's daughter.
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Arcsquad12 posted:It's not a spoiler. Apparently the identity of Rey hasn't actually been decided yet, and its up to the sequel writers to decide. I am sure only the broad strokes are outlined but I feel something like that has got to be worked out by now.
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Dec 24, 2015 07:55
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Reading 'Aftermath' because I'm a garbage man that loves tie-in bullshit and I have to say I'm glad that the author ditched the old-EU habit of making up Star Wars-y sounding equivalents to real world phrases.
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Dec 24, 2015 15:40
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So I went into a cave from late October until I was able to see The Force Awakens yesterday. The books I missed are Twilight Company, The Perfect Weapon, four Tales From A Galaxy Far Far Away shorts, and Before the Awakening, right? Plus the inevitable reference book and novelization for the movie.
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Dec 24, 2015 16:24
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KurdtLives posted:I am sure only the broad strokes are outlined but I feel something like that has got to be worked out by now. If everyone predicts their big twist it's possible they will reconsider the plot point. That's the upside of TFA not committing to much.
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Dec 24, 2015 17:19
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jivjov posted:Now that I don't believe at all. There's an outline and a plan for the whole trilogy, and the bare details were more than likely finalized before Episode VII ever was written. Given how down to the wire the writing on the movie went, and how Poe was originally supposed to die in that Tie crash, I could definitely believe they're flying by the seat of their pants.
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feedmegin posted:Given how down to the wire the writing on the movie went, and how Poe was originally supposed to die in that Tie crash, I could definitely believe they're flying by the seat of their pants. It's good to be able to adjust based on how things actually translate on screen but if you aren't careful you can really write yourself into a corner [but that's probably more a danger on a tv series].
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Constant Hamprince posted:Reading 'Aftermath' because I'm a garbage man that loves tie-in bullshit and I have to say I'm glad that the author ditched the old-EU habit of making up Star Wars-y sounding equivalents to real world phrases. I'm listening to the audiobook now. I'm glad too that the Star Wars-y phrase equivalents are gone, but there are still more than a few examples of saying something tastes like a gleepglorp fruit mixed with alien wildberries or whatever.
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Dec 24, 2015 18:57
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"Star Warsy" phrases are a very strong seasoning. If you don't have any it doesn't taste right, but if you have too much it sends people running to throw up.
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yronic heroism posted:If everyone predicts their big twist it's possible they will reconsider the plot point. That's the upside of TFA not committing to much. Didn't make JJ reconsider Khan.
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Dec 24, 2015 19:08
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Keiya posted:"Star Warsy" phrases are a very strong seasoning. If you don't have any it doesn't taste right, but if you have too much it sends people running to throw up. Literally the worst thing about reading the Legacy comics. Everything is karking this, sleemo that.
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Dec 24, 2015 19:36
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All right you fat, ugly fierfeks, come and get me! Republic Commando did it best. (game not books, thought books 1 and 2 are good)
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Finally got to see the movie last night and just caught up with the thread. (I poked my head into the thread in CineD but  I think I'll post here.)As a break from serious discussion of plot and cinematic craft, here's the Easter eggs I spotted: R2-KT makes a cameo at the Resistance base when they come home from the big battle.  Pretty sure I heard the Wilhelm scream in the TIE Fighter hangar sequence. Finn's number (2187) is the same as Princess Leia's cell number in A New Hope. One thing I didn't spot was the number 1138. Any others?
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Powered Descent posted:R2-KT makes a cameo at the Resistance base when they come home from the big battle. She's in an earlier shot also, really briefly in the background when our heroes first arrive there earlier in the movie. Powered Descent posted:
Haha, that's great. I can't believe that I didn't catch that. My Star Wars nerd cred!
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Powered Descent posted:Finally got to see the movie last night and just caught up with the thread. (I poked my head into the thread in CineD but Daniel Craig plays the mind controlled Stormtrooper, and his callsign is JB-007. Ewan McGregor has a couple lines during Rey's vision, saying "Rey, these are the first steps". Simon Pegg plays Unkar Platt the scrap trader. On Starkiller base, you can hear Stormtroopers saying "we think they may be splitting up, they may be on levels five and six now, sir." A bajillion flags, including the Mandalorian Sigil and Sebulba's pod racer colors are visible above Maz's bar. Also, unspoilered, but I think I saw the A113 reference in Aurebesh. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Dec 25, 2015 |
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Has anyone managed to CSI up some pictures of the New Republic warships that get blown up by Starkiller Base?
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Powered Descent posted:Finally got to see the movie last night and just caught up with the thread. (I poked my head into the thread in CineD but Either Rey or Finn (can't remember) on the Millennium Falcon is looking for something, finds the saber training remote from ANH, and tosses it aside.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Daniel Craig plays the mind controlled Stormtrooper, and his callsign is JB-007. Ewan McGregor has a couple lines during Rey's vision, saying "Rey, these are the first steps". Simon Pegg plays Unkar Platt the scrap trader. On Starkiller base, you can hear Stormtroopers saying "we think they may be splitting up, they may be on levels five and six now, sir."
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Went back and watched my Laserdisc VHS copy of A New Hope. While I do appreciate having this cut, I'm gonna sound heretical and say that I kinda like the Special Edition from '97 better. Of the updated versions, this one is the least bad, I think, even with the bad Jabba CGI and Greedo shooting first. For one thing, unlike the 2004 version, it doesn't completely gut the fanfare during the Trench Run, and it doesn't have the "poo poo I stepped on a Lego" Obi Wan scream from the Blu-Ray edition. What it does have is a fun nod to Shadows of the Empire, Luke's reunion with Biggs, and some loving great CGI for the Trench Run that replaces some of the dodgier looking segments. I'm willing to put up with bad changes to get to the stuff I like. 2004 version would be better if it hadn't ruined the music during the final fight.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Daniel Craig plays the mind controlled Stormtrooper, and his callsign is JB-007. Ewan McGregor has a couple lines during Rey's vision, saying "Rey, these are the first steps". Simon Pegg plays Unkar Platt the scrap trader. On Starkiller base, you can hear Stormtroopers saying "we think they may be splitting up, they may be on levels five and six now, sir." There were also stormtroopers gossiping about the new "TC-17s" (a la the T-16s the two stormtroopers Obi-Wan distracted were chatting about) in the hangar when Rey was sneaking around. Lemniscate Blue posted:
That was Finn, when he was trying to treat Chewbacca.
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When Finn activates the Dejarik table on the Falcon I was sure they'd done it with CGI this time around. Turns out I was wrong: http://makingstarwars.net/2015/12/short-doc-on-tippett-studios-recreating-the-holochess-sequence-for-star-wars-the-force-awakens/
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Arcsquad12 posted:Greedo shooting first. Sorry, but this is unforgivable. The glaring CGI Jabba and all that stuff? Fine, sure. I can cope. Greedo, though? That is a hill I am prepared to die on.
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