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Its stance on continuity has nothing to do with sales. The fact it's Star Wars is what drives it's sales. Which is why they wanted it back so badly.
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CharlestheHammer posted:Its stance on continuity has nothing to do with sales. The fact it's Star Wars is what drives it's sales. Which is why they wanted it back so badly. I do think part of the spell is the fact it's Canon. Then you know how much a fan you are as well as the ability to spout useless info at friend and family.
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Dec 21, 2015 09:28
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Good, I'm not the only one who thinks Dark Empire sucks. The story is a mess and completely shits all over the ending of ROTJ and the artwork and designs are ugly as hell.
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Dec 21, 2015 15:20
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Gammatron 64 posted:Good, I'm not the only one who thinks Dark Empire sucks. The story is a mess and completely shits all over the ending of ROTJ and the artwork and designs are ugly as hell. Is there a debate about Dark Empire sucking? It's not just fact?
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Dec 21, 2015 16:14
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BizarroAzrael posted:Is there a debate about Dark Empire sucking? It's not just fact? Dark Empire is basically the best example of the EUs biggest problem.
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Dec 21, 2015 16:58
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CharlestheHammer posted:Dark Empire is basically the best example of the EUs biggest problem. Superweapon proliferation? Or rehashing established enemies?
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Dec 21, 2015 17:33
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BizarroAzrael posted:Superweapon proliferation? Or rehashing established enemies? Yes. They got better at it, but now we get to start the cycle anew. Yay. CharlestheHammer fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Dec 21, 2015 |
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Dec 21, 2015 17:37
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I wonder if they're going to publish any comics set in the new era soon or if they're going to keep it in the OT until episode 8 is released. I'd love to read a Kylo Ren miniseries but you know if there are any twists in that backstory then they won't be wasted on the comics.
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Dec 21, 2015 20:44
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MrFlibble posted:I wonder if they're going to publish any comics set in the new era soon or if they're going to keep it in the OT until episode 8 is released. I'd love to read a Kylo Ren miniseries but you know if there are any twists in that backstory then they won't be wasted on the comics. Last time Marvel did that they ended up publishing an annual in between IV and V which included a story from the Clone Wars relating an adventure shared by Obi-Wan and his two apprentices: Luke's unnamed father and Darth Vader.  Any parts of Kylo Ren's backstory that aren't covered in the movies will probably be in novels rather than comics. I would like to think they will at least be better than Legacy of the Force. Granted, those books were pretty terrible, so it wouldn't be that much of an achievement.
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Dec 21, 2015 22:30
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This difference now is that LucasFilm has a person to review every proposed story idea. He probably doesn't know exactly what's coming up, but I bet he has ideas of the broad strokes.
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Dec 22, 2015 00:47
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Wheat Loaf posted:Last time Marvel did that they ended up publishing an annual in between IV and V which included a story from the Clone Wars relating an adventure shared by Obi-Wan and his two apprentices: Luke's unnamed father and Darth Vader. Obi Wan is less lovely because he actually thought that Luke was Anakin's son and not Vader's.
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Dec 22, 2015 01:19
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Endless Mike posted:This difference now is that LucasFilm has a person to review every proposed story idea. He probably doesn't know exactly what's coming up, but I bet he has ideas of the broad strokes. They had that before - it's actually the same person (Leland Chee) and their team.
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Dec 22, 2015 01:43
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Well hopefully they do a better job this time and avoid stupid stuff like authors bickering about pet characters.
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Dec 22, 2015 01:46
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Wheat Loaf posted:They had that before - it's actually the same person (Leland Chee) and their team. Not when Marvel was publishing comics between episodes IV and V.
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Dec 22, 2015 02:21
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BizarroAzrael posted:Is there a debate about Dark Empire sucking? It's not just fact? Dude when we did the Let's Read the Star Wars EU thread 5 years ago, I chose to lay into Dark Empire and its sequels. And holy gently caress did people get upset for a bit until I got to DE2, which is pretty universally reviled. Here's two choice comments about it. quote:Besides the art, which is highly stylized, I don't really see where your critique of Dark Empire is based. If you play the cynic card, every popular fiction work will look kind of stupid. It tells a good story, introduces new locations and characters, and (in my opinion) has a really nice art style, something far more ambitious than you would see in a SW comic today. Oh well, to each his own. quote:gently caress all of you loving bitches if you don't like Dark Empire!!!!!!! Granted many EU things are terrible but this really doesn't belong in the company of these other turds and the critique of it is very thin I'd say. The art is an acquired taste, but it certaily isn't terrible. Yeah, I railed on the art quite a bit. Why? Because everyone ended up with a Bruce Campbell-esque chin, and, well, let's examine this picture of Leia:  Or how about this one of Chewie?  I believe I described it as "It's like Chewie got annoyed at Han, peeled off his face, and started wearing it like a mask!"
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Dec 22, 2015 08:31
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soooo. where's a good place to get started with the new comics, as a new reader?
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Dec 22, 2015 08:52
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TFRazorsaw posted:soooo. Star Wars #1, and also Darth Vader #1
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Dec 22, 2015 08:55
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TFRazorsaw posted:soooo. The Trade Paperbacks have Issues 1-6 collected. It's as good a start as any, really. Star Wars and Vader are good. Shattered Empire is a short 4 episode run that has some TFA tidbits in it if you look hard enough.
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Dec 22, 2015 08:57
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Endless Mike posted:Not when Marvel was publishing comics between episodes IV and V. Right, fair enough. I thought you meant "the old EU in general".
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Dec 22, 2015 10:04
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Whee I have finally seen the movie so I can come out of my deep dark hole and catch up, I'm only what, two months behind? Ugh... the comics aren't going to be so bad, but tracking down all the book releases I missed while carefully avoiding Star Wars-related sites is going to be fun.
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Dec 24, 2015 15:17
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There's not that many, and none are particularly good, I understand. (Because they are Star Wars books.)
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Dec 24, 2015 15:35
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The best Star Wars supplementary material has always been the comics.* Like, all the way back in 1978, the Marvel comics were better than Splinter of the Mind's Eye. *Some of the games are also very good.
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Dec 24, 2015 15:45
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You're forgetting the visual dictionary type books, those probably rank above the comics still
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Dec 24, 2015 15:53
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Keiya posted:You're forgetting the visual dictionary type books, those probably rank above the comics still TFA one explains why Kylo Ren's Lightsaber has those vents on it,its actually a very ancient lightsaber from before they were perfected.
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Dec 24, 2015 16:29
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Keiya posted:You're forgetting the visual dictionary type books, those probably rank above the comics still I mean in terms of media that tell original stories outside the movies, the comics are consistently the best compared with the novels or whatever else. "Supplementary" was the wrong word to choose. The old Essential Guide books were my favourites there, especially the New/Essential Chronologies, where the authors were basically given free reign over how to portray the ancient galaxy. They explored the whole concept introduced in KOTOR that the Hutts were the dominant power in the galaxy before the Republic was established, and invented all these cool ideas like the Pius Dea Crusades, which were a period 12,000 years before ANH where a human supremacist religious cult seized control of the Republic and spent the next millennium mounting anti-alien campaigns against the non-human alien species in the Outer Rim. The original Essential Guide line (Characters, Vehicles & Vessels, Weapons & Technology, Alien Species, Droids, Planets & Moons, and the Chronology) were great because they had this earnestness about them and treated the setting as though they were writing an honest-to-goodness academic history book. Granted, that's probably part of the reason why Star Wars fans (i.e. Wookieepedia) have this reputation for being joyless grognards, but it's loads of fun when you're 12. Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Dec 24, 2015 |
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Dec 24, 2015 17:02
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Endless Mike posted:There's not that many, and none are particularly good, I understand. (Because they are Star Wars books.) I've heard that the new novel Lost Stars is pretty good. I've seen some reviews call it one of the the best Star Wars novels ever written. (not that that's a very high bar to clear, but still.)
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Dec 25, 2015 03:34
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I wonder if that evil cyborg Mon Calamari's lightsaber is purple for a reason. Also, Leia is getting a ton to do in Vader Down, you get a good idea of why she was so respected in the OT.
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Dec 25, 2015 03:44
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zoux posted:I wonder if that evil cyborg Mon Calamari's lightsaber is purple for a reason.
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twistedmentat posted:TFA one explains why Kylo Ren's Lightsaber has those vents on it,its actually a very ancient lightsaber from before they were perfected. Is Snoke a holocron? Probably not, but stupider things have happened.
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Dec 25, 2015 19:24
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Has Marvel announced anything in and around TFA yet? Where's my Poe Dameron ongoing?
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Dec 25, 2015 21:47
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I could go for a Rogue Squadron successor series about Poe and Wedge bro-ing it up.
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Dec 25, 2015 22:51
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People who diss the Rogue Squadron series because it's not X-wing are monsters who have taken human form to deceive us.
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Dec 26, 2015 02:29
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Lurdiak posted:People who diss the Rogue Squadron series because it's not X-wing are monsters who have taken human form to deceive us. The Rogue Squadron series ends on a bit of a whimper but that's more due to Stackpole writing himself into a corner, both within the series itself and the larger "canon" of the time.
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Dec 26, 2015 03:34
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Oh I thought we were talking about the video games.
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Dec 26, 2015 04:00
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Lurdiak posted:Oh I thought we were talking about the video games.
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Dec 26, 2015 04:27
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They're different things though. X-wing/TIE fighter is a arcade flight sim, while the Rogue Squadron games are just arcade shooters. I have a feeling that Marvel is going to hold back doing any major comics set in the TFA era, because there's way too much important info that's unknown and there is no way they're going to say that Snoke was Tarkin's butler or some other revelation in the comics.
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Dec 26, 2015 07:36
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There's no reason they can't have GREATEST PILOT EVER Poe Dameron flying missions and blowing things up though. (Am I the only one who got a bit annoyed by how often the movie had to tell us Poe is the greatest pilot in the Resistance?)
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Dec 26, 2015 07:48
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Yes. Just made me feel good for Poe.
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Dec 26, 2015 07:55
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Yeah I have nothing but good feelings about Poe. Did you know he's the Resistance's greatest pilot?
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:Yeah I have nothing but good feelings about Poe. And he's the Captain of my heart.
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