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Neeksy
Mar 29, 2007

Hej min vän, hur står det till?

Corzaa posted:

Can you give Virgil's serum to Strong?

Virgil's serum only works on one specific strain of the FEV, and on the terminals in the lab, they posit that finding a cure is even harder when combined with the fact that wastelanders have been exposed to radiation. Essentially it's lucky it worked on Virgil, and he says it will take him 10 more years to develop it any further.

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Doctor Butts
May 21, 2002

McKilligan posted:

So the Legendaries are finally going my way -

Got an Instigating Combat Rifle, upchambered to .308 with a silencer. Lovely way to start a fight. Has quickly become my favorite thing.

I got a Fat Man that does 25% bonus damage.

Emong
May 31, 2011

perpair to be annihilated


Zephyrine posted:



Help!

Edit: If this was New Vegas I would have had the option

(lie) side with the railroad.

Imagine that "side with railroad" says accept quest and "side with minutemen" says don't accept quest right now. That's all those are.

E: Oh whoops this is a different thing. I imagine it's the same situation though

8one6
May 20, 2012

When in doubt, err on the side of Awesome!

Desdemona basically doesn't like any of your other friends.

Gobblecoque
Sep 6, 2011
Sometimes it really annoys me how you rarely get any actual choices in the quests. I just finished the "Building a Better Crop" quest and I'm pretty sure there was no alternative there to helping the institute, and it seems that the best outcome is you convince an innocent guy he's crazy while leaving a synth impostor in place.

The game just gets so dumb once you penetrate the institute. "hey you guys are kinda fuckin' assholes and I don't want poo poo to do with you" "alright that's cool but you're gonna do these missions for us real quick thanks"

Edit: They probably should have just programmed the game to CTD as soon as you meet Father

Gobblecoque fucked around with this message at 16:48 on Dec 24, 2015

Literal Nazi Furry
Jan 27, 2008

Swastika - Helvetica - Ikea
Last night I dreamt of Adolf searching for Anne.
I lay on my back
standing alone in the corner watching the girls dance.

I'm on crystal meth.
I piss in my pants.

Gobblecoque posted:

gently caress. Well guess it's time to send Strong to some backwater settlement I'm never going back to because I'm not giving up power armor for some retard super mutant.

strong likes it when you kill things. you don't need to even remotely worry about pissing him off too much because you can just kill some stuff and he'll begin to love you again

Houdini
Sep 13, 2007


Official terrible game purchaser of the SomethingAwful forums.
Is there a bug with the Graygarden robots becoming hostile? I didn't have any power armour and Codsworth was with me. I approached them from the house nearby and they all came storming over. I couldn't even outrun them, so had to kill them. Codsworth got mad at me even though he did most of the fighting. :v: Do they ever respawn or anything? I didn't even get the chance to speak to them about the quest so can't ally and use their workbench.

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus

Houdini posted:

Is there a bug with the Graygarden robots becoming hostile? I didn't have any power armour and Codsworth was with me. I approached them from the house nearby and they all came storming over. I couldn't even outrun them, so had to kill them. Codsworth got mad at me even though he did most of the fighting. :v: Do they ever respawn or anything? I didn't even get the chance to speak to them about the quest so can't ally and use their workbench.

If you purge the place of all life you will unlock the work bench.

Tyshalob
Apr 10, 2008

om nom nom i eat ur town




I was building a three story dorm and put in a lot of lights. Now in the dorm entire sections have this weird glitch in the matrix visual corruption. Anybody else experience this?

MarshyMcFly
Aug 16, 2012

Am I crazy? Or just lucky?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luOip62gvlo

MarshyMcFly fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Dec 24, 2015

Speedball
Apr 15, 2008


You can kill a super mutant suicider with melee if your strike never touches the bomb and he doesn't get a chance to spike it into the ground, yeah. You using Pain Train to stun him probabbly helped too.

Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 10 years!)

Zephyrine posted:



Help!

Edit: If this was New Vegas I would have had the option

(lie) side with the railroad.

Yeah, that's not an actual commitment, I chose "side with the railroad" and there were no consequences with my Brotherhood relationship, it's just a really stupid presentation of dialog options, but that's a big part of the Fallout 4 experience anyway. The upshot is you can lie, you just don't have the Fallout I/II dialog distinction between honesty and subterfuge.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
The downside of lying is that the game does not consider you to have lied- it automatically treats everything you say wrt the major faction decisions as the truth without even considering your current alignment/quests. There's no way to infiltrate one side in the name of the other. Which sucks hard.

khy
Aug 15, 2005

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus
What's wrong with WRVR radio? I walked in the door and a man named cooped opened fire on me. After killing him a woman charged me from the other room.

Gobblecoque
Sep 6, 2011
"It will work because it must" goddamn I hate Desdemona, why don't you give me some more arrows that indicate directions gently caress

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

CJacobs posted:

The downside of lying is that the game does not consider you to have lied- it automatically treats everything you say wrt the major faction decisions as the truth without even considering your current alignment/quests. There's no way to infiltrate one side in the name of the other. Which sucks hard.

Sure there is. But only for the railroad infiltrating the institute

RC Cola
Aug 1, 2011

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain
Which ending is the least bad? From a playing afterwards perspective. Is it worthwhile to rule the institute

Deformed Church
May 12, 2012

5'5", IQ 81


RC Cola posted:

Which ending is the least bad? From a playing afterwards perspective. Is it worthwhile to rule the institute

As far as I can tell it does basically nothing. You get those weird support grenades and stuff and maybe a discount in your faction shop, I can't remember, but it doesn't actually seem to give you anything else to do. Doing the thing in the spoiler doesn't actually give you a choice, it's basically just a dumb title to say "I finished the faction missions."

If you want spoilers going with the institute makes you destroy the brotherhood airship, and vice versa, so anything that might have been in them is largely inaccessible, but apart from that it does nothing. There's no actual leadership choices or anything you can make though, which is really one of the most disappointing things. I'm the leader of an organisation that doesn't actually do anything and I have no option to change that.

Gobblecoque
Sep 6, 2011
Wow, the post-Kellog main quest is bad. Like holy poo poo, it manages to be bad in every possible way, I'm kinda stunned actually. I guess they wanted to change up the usual formula of "hey hero, there's a big bad Enclave/Dragons/Dagoth Ur, go kill it because you're the chosen one" but I dunno I guess Bethesda lacked the imagination, competence, or time to make any of it work.

Buckets
Apr 10, 2009

...THE CHILD...
I'm still not convinced the Kid in the Fridge side quest isn't some kind of joke by the writers to mock the player.

You can't write something THAT stupid by accident.

Buckets fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Dec 24, 2015

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus
Daisy: Take care of Maccready. He's one of the good ones.


Really Daisy? Have you travelled with him? Not 15 minutes ago I ran into this confused old lady. I pistol whipped her repeatedly and then shot her in the head and Maccready loved that. The things I've had to do to keep that man happy...

Pwnstar
Dec 9, 2007

Who wants some waffles?

Buckets posted:

I'm still not convinced the Kid in the Fridge side quest isn't some kind of joke by the writers to mock the player.

You can't write something THAT stupid by accident.

You'd think that but there's a second quest in the game with a very similar premise that is supposed to be very serious with emotional catharsis so its not like the kid in the fridge is a wacky easter egg quest.

Haskell9
Sep 23, 2008

post it live
The Great Twist
I guess I'll tell both threads. The fix for the nudity problem I complained about is reinstalling. poo poo works great now yo.

Freaking Crumbum
Apr 17, 2003

Too fuck to drunk


Buckets posted:

I'm still not convinced the Kid in the Fridge side quest isn't some kind of joke by the writers to mock the player.

You can't write something THAT stupid by accident.

if it had just been a regular kid, and his family was trapped in a town overrun by raiders, at least that would be plausible. it's still a lovely escort quest, but it'd make sense in the context of the story.

also, i like how bethesda went so far as to realize "wow everyone hates escort quests" but their solution wasn't to exclude them from the game, they just decided "hey let's just give all escorted NPCs plot armor! that way the whole things feels DOUBLE useless for the player"!

Buckets
Apr 10, 2009

...THE CHILD...
Maybe I just missed the chance to ask, can Bullet explain WHY he wants the kid, or how he knew he suddenly existed. Like, did he know the kid was in the fridge and was saving him or something? Did I accidentally steal this guys lunch or what? Did he see me open the fridge and get all 'I was going to eat that mummy!' I don't know man, it was just so loving dumb...

Buckets fucked around with this message at 06:28 on Dec 25, 2015

Gobblecoque
Sep 6, 2011

Buckets posted:

I'm still not convinced the Kid in the Fridge side quest isn't some kind of joke by the writers to mock the player.

You can't write something THAT stupid by accident.

I'm convinced that most of the quests in this game were jokes written to mock the player.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

Gobblecoque posted:

I'm convinced that most of the quests in this game were jokes written to mock the player.

It must be great to be a Bethesda writer and be so lovely at your job that people will convince themselves that what you wrote was a joke.

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus
I've been playing this game every day since it came out. Just ran into the Atom Cats. I am smitten.

Are you from the Atom Cats?
Fem-survivor: Meow


Buckets posted:

Maybe I just missed the chance to ask, can Bullet explain WHY he wants the kid, or how he knew he suddenly existed. Like, did he know the kid was in the fridge and was saving him or something? Did I accidentally steal this guys lunch or what? Did he see me open the fridge and get all 'I was going to eat that mummy!' I don't know man, it was just so loving dumb...

Bullet confronted me when I was escorting the kid and offered to buy him. I said no and so he ran away.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 45 hours!

King Vidiot posted:

It must be great to be a Bethesda writer and be so lovely at your job that people will convince themselves that what you wrote was a joke.

You realize that at this point this can be said about basically every person actually developing Bethesda games, right?

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

HATE NEWSPAPERS is so good it had to have been intentional

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

Buckets posted:

Maybe I just missed the chance to ask, can Bullet explain WHY he wants the kid, or how he knew he suddenly existed. Like, did he know the kid was in the fridge and was saving him or something? Did I accidentally steal this guys lunch or what? Did he see me open the fridge and get all 'I was going to eat that mummy!' I don't know man, it was just so loving dumb...

He says it's something like "ghouls don't tire as easily or age or something something... more durable, work them harder, etc". He knows the kid exists because the kid is right there next to you. Like, I know Bullet is conveniently scripted to appear there, but that quest is dumb for plenty of other reasons besides Bullet.

I like that Bullet's plan at the end involves being out in the open, alone, to threaten and coerce the family to give up the kid, giving you the opportunity to utterly kill the poo poo out of him. And then and only then does his backup team come out to avenge his death or whatever. Why couldn't he have set them up around the house and surrounded it first? If you have strength in numbers you don't go toe-to-toe with a wasteland merc and hide away your backup until after you're dead.

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus
Garrus said he had junk that would make me jive. :swoon:

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

T.G. Xarbala posted:

HATE NEWSPAPERS is so good it had to have been intentional

Or the bit where you find a Chinese ghoul and yell at him "You destroyed my country! Die!"

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
Speaking of Kid in a Fridge, how did the kid know you had a gun to shoot off the door, why is shooting it off his first thought?

Ra Ra Rasputin fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Dec 25, 2015

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

Because of Kid in a Fridge, how did the kid know you had a gun to shoot off the door, why is shooting it off his first thought?

...also wait a minute, Bullet was walking along that same road and he's some kind of mercenary/trader so that's probably his usual route. Why did he not just shoot the lock off sometime between 200 years ago and the moment you shoot the lock off? Why did nobody else ever hear that kid constantly yelling from behind a fridge door and do something about it? How did that kid spend 200 years locked in there without going crazy or turning feral, or just dying from his body shutting down or whatever? Also I thought ghouls actually did age, they just aged really really slowly.

gently caress that entire quest. Just gently caress it.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
not interested in discussing how realistic things are in an alternate universe post-apoc game w/ talking mutants and ghouls

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002

2house2fly posted:

not interested in discussing how realistic things are in an alternate universe post-apoc game w/ talking mutants and ghouls

A wizard did it

Magmarashi
May 20, 2009





Nitrox posted:

A wizard Radiation/FEV did it

That about covers it

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Bob NewSCART
Feb 1, 2012

Outstanding afternoon. "I've often said there's nothing better for the inside of a man than the outside of a horse."

Radiation is magic, Retards

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