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Aesop Poprock posted:The accident made him an uggo Chicks dig scars, don't you know anything?
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Pththya-lyi posted:Chicks dig scars, don't you know anything? I do kind of wonder if the "Luke mauled by a wampa and left out in the freezing cold all night" was written to justify what's wrong with his face.
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Dec 24, 2015 18:26
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Pththya-lyi posted:And you didn't watch A New Hope since? When you single out one particular OP character from an array of OP characters, I pretty much have to wonder why you're criticizing that one character. I really did think the answer was "because she's a woman." Now I'm thinking it's "because she's new." I like her character but didn't care for some things related to her force powers. I liked Finn but didn't like him holding his own in a lightsaber battle with a jedi. I liked poe but he was the most gary stu character in the entire movie and the most ridiculously great pilot ever who did everything and killed the death star 3. I liked the film but thought it had some pretty dumb things, and that it was really poorly paced and handling of Hans death was weird. I thought Carrie fisher as Leia was awful and awkward. I enjoyed the film and I'm sorry I don't love absolutely everything about it and that upsets people badly in the thread where we make fun of dumb star wars things
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Dec 24, 2015 18:27
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Guys guys guys! While cleaning my folks place out I found the star wars encyclopedia, published in 1997. It is full of terrible EU poo poo. Post a letter and I will try to find something retarded with that letter as a header.
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Dec 24, 2015 18:29
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is that the one with the tie fighter on the cover? anyhow uhhhhh E
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Dec 24, 2015 18:30
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Otisburg posted:so much going on on them death stars. layers and layers: Now I want a whole book of Palpatine and IG-88's petty meaningless feud.  : "Uugh. Need coffee. Why isn't the button doing anythingOW IT SPLASHED ALL OVER MY HANDS!" : *Plays jizz music over the speaker system*
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Dec 24, 2015 18:33
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Pththya-lyi posted:And you didn't watch A New Hope since? When you single out one particular OP character from an array of OP characters, I pretty much have to wonder why you're criticizing that one character. I really did think the answer was "because she's a woman." Now I'm thinking it's "because she's new." Probably because Luke progressed at a much more reasonable pace. The only thing he's unnaturally skilled at out the gate is flying. He has essentially zero force ability in the first movie besides making a lucky shot, and it takes him three movies to build up to the point he can directly challenge a sith. He even gets his rear end handed to him by said sith in the second film. Rey is not just a great pilot for no reason, but a skilled a fighter and mechanic. I don't really care about that though, it's the force stuff that is over the top. On her first day of realizing she's force sensitive she outdoes a sith in a mental battle, beats that sith again in close combat, and masters Mind Trick to the degree that it's basically Mind Control with 45 seconds of practice. To my knowledge she is the only person (on screen) in Star Wars who is overtly powerful in the force without any training or experience whatsoever, and it's just kind of silly. Even when Anakin or Luke are spoken of being "strong in the force" it only manifests in abstract ways like "made a good shot" or "drove pod racer good" at first. It's not until they receive actual training and experience that they can fight well or wield overt force powers. But Rey apparently masters the spectrum of force powers on her first day as a jedi.
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Dec 24, 2015 18:35
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Also to clarify I don't "hate her character" like a lot of strawman bashers here seem to equate any criticism with. I just think she's unreasonably paced. That's all.
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Dec 24, 2015 18:38
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Jurgan posted:I do kind of wonder if the "Luke mauled by a wampa and left out in the freezing cold all night" was written to justify what's wrong with his face. I'm pretty sure that's the case. The accident was between 4 and 5
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Dec 24, 2015 18:40
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Chomp8645 posted:Probably because Luke progressed at a much more reasonable pace. The only thing he's unnaturally skilled at out the gate is flying. He has essentially zero force ability in the first movie besides making a lucky shot, and it takes him three movies to build up to the point he can directly challenge a sith. He even gets his rear end handed to him by said sith in the second film. TBF if lightsabers and other Jedi relics are Horcruxes now, it's probably reasonable to assume Rey's powers to match a trained Sith Lord in mental combat is parallel to Harry potter's baby powers outdoing Voldemort. I mean that's essentially what's happening. I won't blame them from cribbing Harry Potter. It was a great set of books and movies. Chill la Chill fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Dec 24, 2015 |
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Dec 24, 2015 18:43
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Aesop Poprock posted:
That's fine! I thought the film was unnecessarily nostalgic. I think they leaned on callbacks. I think there were a lot of problems that occur in JJ Abrams films that also occur in this film. My only point is that people who focus exclusively on Rey are arguing in bad faith.
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Dec 24, 2015 18:46
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Trevor Hale posted:That's fine! I thought the film was unnecessarily nostalgic. I think they leaned on callbacks. I think there were a lot of problems that occur in JJ Abrams films that also occur in this film. My only point is that people who focus exclusively on Rey are arguing in bad faith. Are there people who are exclusively focusing on Rey? If she's even a negative for the film she's very low on the on the list. I'd put "can't go five minutes without a pointless callback" and "are you making GBS threads me they just built another loving death star" as far, far worse than a couple drops of mary sue.
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Dec 24, 2015 18:49
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Chomp8645 posted:Are there people who are exclusively focusing on Rey? If she's even a negative for the film she's very low on the on the list. I'd put "can't go five minutes without a pointless callback" and "are you making GBS threads me they just built another loving death star" as far, far worse than a couple drops of mary sue. Yes.
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Dec 24, 2015 18:53
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Well ok I will take your word for it.
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Dec 24, 2015 18:55
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are these people making GBS threads on rey the same people who start crying if their husbando The Batman is not "written properly" as being better at everything and smarter than and more handsome than anyone. he's not star wars but I loving hate Batman fans at this point
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Dec 24, 2015 18:57
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Trevor Hale posted:
Because we're not 5 years old anymore? Some nuance can be good. It's not a bad movie, it just seems to be a remix of the original while not doing it as well.
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Dec 24, 2015 19:16
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effectual posted:Because we're not 5 years old anymore? Some nuance can be good. It's not a bad movie, it just seems to be a remix of the original while not doing it as well. So you'd agree that the same problems exist in the Original Trilogy?
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Dec 24, 2015 19:32
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Otisburg posted:so much going on on them death stars. layers and layers: every time i watched rotj i think of this bullshit and it ruins the whole movie for me like, lando flies into the core and i think "GEE I BET IG-88 IS PROBABLY UPLOADING HIMSELF RIGHT HERE" and i loving die inside because of the EU
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Dec 24, 2015 19:37
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Does Bea Arthur's character have a detailed backstory including what high school she graduated in?
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Dec 24, 2015 19:41
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is kylo ren really a sith
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Dec 24, 2015 19:42
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The answer is of course.quote:By the year 43.5 ABY, Ackmena had joined Freedom Flight, an organization dedicated to freeing slaves throughout the galaxy. That's great. 
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Dec 24, 2015 19:42
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Fojar38 posted:is kylo ren really a sith "Sith" and "Dark Jedi" are interchangeable terms for the most part. There is an actual Sith species but they only feature in the Old Republic setting (and even then are minor), and are totally gone by the time of the prequels even.
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Dec 24, 2015 19:44
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i thought sith was more specific than dark jedi in that there is a sith culture
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Dec 24, 2015 19:45
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Fojar38 posted:i thought sith was more specific than dark jedi in that there is a sith culture "There are Dark Jedi. And then there are Sith." -Star Wars Freep and your racist Uncle Own
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Dec 24, 2015 19:52
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That's our word. Nobody gave you no "S-word pass."
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is that dumb rule of 2 thing still around does snoke have a darth title and if he does shouldnt ren have a lord title im gay and eat mountains of poo poo
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Dec 24, 2015 20:05
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Fojar38 posted:is that dumb rule of 2 thing still around "ren" is apparently his title, or some sort of adopted surname, since he is called out as the "master of the knights of ren." do the mountains of poo poo you eat cry? http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mount_Sorrow
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Dec 24, 2015 20:06
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William Bear posted:Now I want a whole book of Palpatine and IG-88's petty meaningless feud. Where's that robot chicken sketch where the Emperor shows up at the death star but his luggage is missing and his throne is right under a vent? IG-88 did that, I bet.
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Dec 24, 2015 20:09
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Fojar38 posted:is that dumb rule of 2 thing still around God drat rule of 2 is the dumbest poo poo ever considering the Sith had an empire then some jackass says, "Lets just have two guys no flaws with that plan!".
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Dec 24, 2015 21:04
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An idiot just made up the 2 thing because we only saw 2 sith in the OT so obviously that's how it always is, instead of jedis just being rare and sith being even rarer, especially since Vader murdered most of the jedi.
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Dec 24, 2015 21:09
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Trevor Hale posted:But on aggregate, I'd imagine it's coming from the same people who had a twinge of anger when they saw John Boyega was a main character. If you make fun of my precious star wars you are likely a racist is the best argument of 2016
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Dec 24, 2015 21:24
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Fojar38 posted:is that dumb rule of 2 thing still around I don't think so. Even Lucas didn't follow that, considering there's a point where there's at least three Darths, because Count Dooku was already pulling poo poo with the Trade Federation and had likely taken his Sith name from Sheev at the same time Darth Maul was supposedly Sheev's apprentice. effectual posted:An idiot just made up the 2 thing because we only saw 2 sith in the OT so obviously that's how it always is, instead of jedis just being rare and sith being even rarer, especially since Vader murdered most of the jedi. That idiot is Yoda. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7SjW0vFCiI It was later codified into the Rule of Two. But, yeah, that's something that could actually be laid at the feet of Lucas (and, like I said, they completely abandon it in the second film). It's a bit of dialogue that could have been written much better, like "There's two types of Sith: a master and an apprentice" and just left it at that instead of dealing in absolutes. Young Freud fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Dec 24, 2015 |
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Dec 24, 2015 21:34
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Trevor Hale posted:Rey couldn't do anything until Ren hosed around in her head. Almost as if THE FORCE AWAKENS. She was a competent survivor who lived on her own for years, and then had someone gently caress with her brain which made THE FORCE AWAKEN and then she becomes a competent survivor who can do other poo poo.
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:is that the one with the tie fighter on the cover? Alirght let's see here EbaThe Name of Jaina Solo's Wookiee Doll [cs] Ebsuk, Zubindi A Kubaz, he was the late chef of Beldorion the Hutt on Nam Chorios. He used enzymes and hormones to transform common insects into gourmet meals and he was famous for mutating them into whole new lifeforms for the dining pleasure of Beldorion. In fact, Kubaz chefs are famous throughout the galaxy for injecting insect life froms with growth enzymes and gene-splicing them in a quest for newer and more perfect designer foods. But Ebsuk's efforts were his downfall. He altered a droch that - before anyone knew- became intelligent enough to enslave him. The droch, Dyzm, fed off of Ebsuk until he became powerful enough to enslave even Beldorion [POT] Tl:dr, Space Ant-eater GMO's bugs to make them tastier, but made on into a lovely villain that enslaves people.
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Dr. Lariat posted:If you make fun of my precious star wars you are likely a racist is the best argument of 2016 Absolutely not what I'm saying as the movie is super flawed. The way in which some people are choosing to talk about it is definitely racist and misogynistic.
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Dec 24, 2015 22:19
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Trevor Hale posted:Star Wars is genre pulp to its core. That someone is too competent is the dumbest goddamn excuse. Luke and Obi-Wan walk into a bar and just happen to find the BEST smuggler in the galaxy? Why are you so good at smuggling, Han?
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Dec 24, 2015 23:00
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Trevor Hale posted:Absolutely not what I'm saying as the movie is super flawed. The way in which some people are choosing to talk about it is definitely racist and misogynistic. The closest we get is when Finn thinks he needs to "save" Rey when he first sees her, and that's more of due to gender preconceptions than anything Rey does as a character.
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It's not the holidays if people aren't arguing dumb minutia over a Star Wars movie... the holidays are truly back... Darth Mom is best Darth b t w 
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You guys realize that Star Wars is the spiritual successor to Flash "being a Polo Jockey/Jets QB lets me do anything" Gordon? Mary Sue-ness is loving par for the course.
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I love how like clockwork every few pages someone bursts into the thread "UM ACTUALLY DID YOU KNOW STAR WARS WAS BASED DIRECTLY ON FLASH GORDON AND/OR KUROSAWA??? FURTHERMORE..." as if anyone at all gives a poo poo.
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