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Luigi Thirty posted:Another mosque is on fire in Texas.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Another mosque is on fire in Texas. Christian terrorists spent all day radicalizing each other what do you expect. Ban Christmas it's just government funds being used to galvanize the talmudic law extremists
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Luigi Thirty posted:Another mosque is on fire in Texas. sad. its sounds like the entire building is hosed too. and the damage has spread to a near by buildings 
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Dec 26, 2015 03:33
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Luigi Thirty posted:Another mosque is on fire in Texas. War On Christmas? Historically Black Churches In The South Keep Getting Burned Down
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:War On Christmas? Historically Black Churches In The South Keep Getting Burned Down Brown people don't count. 
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computer parts posted:It's 6.5% black as of the 2010 census. Colorado Springs itself is about 6.3% black.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:Brown people don't count. More that race is never an issue in their minds and all other defining characteristics have priority. It wouldn't surprise me if it was reported that DeRay Mckesson's house was firebombed by a Stormfront moderating Klansman that's also a 1% and ][][][%er, conservatives would unabashedly spin it as a man taking a stand against government regulating zoning laws, fire codes, and that the government can never protect you all the time so buy a lot of guns. Rick_Hunter fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Dec 26, 2015 |
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Dec 26, 2015 04:02
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Luigi Thirty posted:Another mosque is on fire in Texas. One of the more terrible comment sections I've seen, which is saying something.
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Dec 26, 2015 04:06
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GalacticAcid posted:I'm off to celebrate the holiday, so long for now USPol. In all seriousness, how is this not against Twitter TOS? Threatening violence?
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Epic High Five posted:Christian terrorists spent all day radicalizing each other what do you expect. Ban Christmas it's just government funds being used to galvanize the talmudic law extremists Repeal the Edict of Milan Boon fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Dec 26, 2015 |
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Dec 26, 2015 04:15
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gradenko_2000 posted:Yeah, that's right. The conservative proponents for a Flat Tax always deflect criticisms of the scheme by promising a certain level of income that won't be taxes in consideration for cost-of-living expenses. Nobody ever calls them out on how that's already a thing that the current system of taxation does, given enough tinkering.
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Dec 26, 2015 04:49
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Bip Roberts posted:That map only shows rural areas with black people, FYI. not true, it also shows all the rural areas in america that are 99% white
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Dec 26, 2015 05:27
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:One of the more terrible comment sections I've seen, which is saying something. oh my quote:Let go of your childhood indoctrination. Muslims and their mosques are a murder club. They are a threat to America and our freedom. It's ok to speak violence against them. And it is ok to burn them out. Burning them out will solve everything. A woman's place is in the kitchen, not the battlefield. Your words are ruled by emotion and not reality. Sit back and let rough men protect you. That is your place. It's ok to burn murder clubs. like, this reads like a troll until it doesn't if you know what i mean
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Dec 26, 2015 05:36
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Here is Charles Koch bemoaning the welfare state in the US. But he is complaining about corporate welfare. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/charles-koch--we-re-creating-welfare-for-the-wealthy-160454754.html Kochhead posted:Charles Koch, the billionaire CEO of Koch Industries, says welfare is making people’s lives worse, but he’s not talking about welfare for low-income parents or the elderly. He’s aiming at a much bigger target. He’s talking about welfare for some of the most valuable companies in the world in the form of government handouts such as tax breaks and subsidies. Hey, the policies I have supported have hurt people but now I am going to pretend that I care. BUY MY BOOK!!!!
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:Here is Charles Koch bemoaning the welfare state in the US. But he is complaining about corporate welfare. It's more about raising awareness for anti-Cruz issues imo
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Dec 26, 2015 05:37
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:One of the more terrible comment sections I've seen, which is saying something. quote:Wrong Emily. Let go of your childhood indoctrination. Muslims and their mosques are a murder club. They are a threat to America and our freedom. It's ok to speak violence against them. And it is ok to burn them out. Burning them out will solve everything. A woman's place is in the kitchen, not the battlefield. Your words are ruled by emotion and not reality. Sit back and let rough men protect you. That is your place. It's ok to burn murder clubs. It's like something an evil Ruddha would post
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Pixelboy posted:In all seriousness, how is this not against Twitter TOS? Threatening violence? A threat of violence? On Twitter? What a rare event.
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Aliquid posted:It's more about raising awareness for anti-Cruz issues imo Who're the Kochs backing now?
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zoux posted:Who're the Kochs backing now? Hillary Clinton.
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botany posted:How is the other half of that post related to Malthusianism? Anything that pertains to justifying or advocating neo-feudalism in the context of capitalism is pretty loving Malthusian. Stereotype posted:I know people are already asking about the second Krugman related weirdness in your posts, but in the first part: why do you think that people are reassured by "tolerable" poverty statistics? Do you think that those volunteering for and giving money to charities support those institutions because capitalism is just inherently flawed and the only possible way of solving poverty is through extra-governmental goodwill of average citizens? Charities are by default immoral because they further institutionalize poverty by floating the cost of it instead of fundamentally undermining the system therein that creates it. This is entirely why charities in western Africa failed spectacularly. Stereotype posted:Personally I think that it is far more likely that no one has any idea what a "manageable" percentage of poverty is (5%? 20%? These are just math numbers), and only really care when they see poverty negatively affecting someone they are personally connected to. I don't understand why you responded to me either, you didn't really address my thesis of "statistics are inherently unrelatable even though they are much more accurate in describing reality" I think everyone at this point has a family member that is experiencing poverty at this moment, given the economic situation in the US. And people are very capable rationalizing the horrendous poo poo they do than relating to other people. Statistics just so happens to be one of the ways we do it. It's way easier than personally relating to the people you're trying so hard to oppress.
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But do we like said family member? Quite a few libertarians of my acquaintance base their faith in a Just World on the fact that a relative they don't like is struggling more than they are. That I am doing better than my lazy rear end sibling is proof that the system works at least partly right. Crab bucket, etc. Hell, when I spot someone IRL ranting about lazy millennial they usually have a kid who truly is an entitled/lazy brat and they are projecting their anger/frustration with their own offspring onto the cohort at large. "Because my child didn't take the college I paid for seriously and dropped out - wasting the money I paid for tuition! - I conclude that the problems of all of his generation are due to poor work ethic! " Personal experience trumping statistics.
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People here keep saying the GOP is going to tear itself apart via all the insane people that have taken over, but it feels like when it's actually time to vote, they're just going to keep winning every time, except for presidential elections, and I'm not even totally sure about that anymore. If Hillary wins it's not like she'll be able to do anything but nominate Supreme Court justices and create executive orders. The GOP will still have Congress and the only thing Hillary can do about that is veto eight years worth of bullshit. Is there any hope? I know that redistricting happens in 2020, but how do we know the GOP won't just come out on top again when that happens?
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It's not just executive orders, it's also having plausibly competent people running the government and its departments. FEMA and the Iraq reconstruction are only the two most blatant incidents of corruption/patronage/idiocy from the Bush Administration. The GOP is dysfunctional as a party, which is why they rely so heavily on demonization. I guess that leaves us with Republicans voting because of the Democrat's corruptocommunism, and the Democrats voting because the Republicans are a bunch of corrupt charlatans. Huh, the truth must be in the middle. P.S. Krugman didn't just 'happen' to become a celebrity, he became one precisely because he spoke out forcefully for liberalism.... especially rare right after 9/11.
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Dead Cosmonaut posted:Anything that pertains to justifying or advocating neo-feudalism in the context of capitalism is pretty loving Malthusian.  Krugman isn't advocating for neo-feudalism, and neither did Malthus. He was, however, largely in agreement with your opinion on charity. What do you actually think Malthusianism is? Could you just shortly outline what you mean by that term? It might make this discussion easier.
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Shageletic posted:Supply side theorists, austerity pushers, disciplines of the University of Chicago style neo-liberalist economics, etc. I wouldn't call supply-side "widely accepted", unless we're talking about people who aren't economists here.
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The Larch posted:I wouldn't call supply-side "widely accepted", unless we're talking about people who aren't economists here. Arthur Laffer is the most influential economist in the last 40 years. Krugman's visibility in the public eye isn't due to his relationship with other economists per se, but due to his writings lambasting politicians for listening to economists that he thinks are in the wrong.
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GalacticAcid posted:I'm off to celebrate the holiday, so long for now USPol. dude's a straight up neonazi. he's even got adolf hitler quotes in his twitter stream
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Shageletic posted:Arthur Laffer is the most influential economist in the last 40 years. God drat that's depressing. I can draw poo poo on napkins too.
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:Here is Charles Koch bemoaning the welfare state in the US. But he is complaining about corporate welfare. maybe he thinks that he doesnt need "training wheels" anymore. maybe he thinks that if they removed all the corporate welfare, his company could just gobble up the struggling competitors.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:maybe he thinks that he doesnt need "training wheels" anymore. maybe he thinks that if they removed all the corporate welfare, his company could just gobble up the struggling competitors. Its globalist accelerationism - he's certain that if all taxes and subsidies were eliminated overnight the Koch Corporate Empire would be a world power for at least 100 years.
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:Here is Charles Koch bemoaning the welfare state in the US. But he is complaining about corporate welfare. You know, Iv always wondered what it would be like to be in the position of one of these guys destroying the fabric of American democracy with unlimited amounts of money then to wake up one day and realize I'm actually loving the country. Would be loving horrifying to be honest.
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Or the thought that one day, the history books will call you one of the second generation of Robber Barons. Maybe Koch is actually having a revelatory moment? Hahahahahahaha no
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A CNN security guard's Iraq vet son was having a breakdown at home and had a gun. He rushed home and attempted to de-escalate the situation, and witnesses say he got him to put the gun on the hood of a car. Then cops showed up and shot him and have 50 different stories about what happened. http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/hero-security-guard-diffuses-hostage-situation-only-to-be-fatally-shot-by-late-arriving-cops/ Merry Christmas. gently caress everything.
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stinkles1112 posted:Or the thought that one day, the history books will call you one of the second generation of Robber Barons. Yeah no. Given the way his objections are being phrased, I'd say it's way more likely that the Kochs are just true believers and honestly think that there's some inherent value to a "free market." Besides, there's already so much upward redistribution even without literal government handouts to corporations that it's not like anything he's saying represents a serious threat to the wealthy or to business interests in general.
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:Here is Charles Koch bemoaning the welfare state in the US. But he is complaining about corporate welfare. as far as i know the Koch's have a pretty heavy libertarian bent to them so they probably do actually support dismantling corporate welfare (in addition to all welfare)
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Luigi Thirty posted:A CNN security guard's Iraq vet son was having a breakdown at home and had a gun. He rushed home and attempted to de-escalate the situation, and witnesses say he got him to put the gun on the hood of a car. Here's a fun game! See if you can guess, from this simple outline of the story, what was the race of this young man? 
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mandatory lesbian posted:as far as i know the Koch's have a pretty heavy libertarian bent to them so they probably do actually support dismantling corporate welfare (in addition to all welfare) It is the same logic as indebted service in the British Empire. Someone living completely under their employer's control isn't a slave - they signed a contract. They should kiss the rings of their job creator. The Kochs are part of a larger global bent toward feudalism / anarchocapitalism - aligned with the wealthy families of Europe, the oligarchs of Russia, etc.
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mdemone posted:Here's a fun game! See if you can guess, from this simple outline of the story, what was the race of this young man? The young man wasn't the one who was shot. The upstanding private peace officer navy veteran hostage negotiator father was. Which just makes your point twice as true but yeah.
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McDowell posted:The Kochs are part of a larger global bent toward feudalism / anarchocapitalism - aligned with the wealthy families of Europe, the oligarchs of Russia, etc. The lizardmen *nods sagely*
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