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chitoryu12 posted:I didn't remember the weights of all the weapons, so I looked it up and holy poo poo. The LAW is 5.5 pounds, the Carl Gustav is 19 pounds unloaded, and the AT4 is loving 14.8 pounds. The CG is barely heavier and is at least reloadable. Who carries this poo poo anyways. HMMWV, ATV, Mule, press-gang Sherpa etc. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEZVhnAvan4 Skip to 00:29 seconds.
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It'll be sweet when the age of robots comes.
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<75% of our AO in Afghanistan couldn't be covered by the same kind of mounted patrols we did in Iraq. Irrigation canals were all over and typically crossed by mud foot-bridges, tree branches (gently caress these), or jumping (and falling in, so gently caress jumping too) I carried a LAW for 2 months or so before I got a 203. We had a "2 sources of HE" requirement for any patrol loadout, not counting grenades. Apparently Talibs will stand up against SAW suppression but have a healthy fear of explosions. LAWs are cool.
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Victor Vermis posted:<75% of our AO in Afghanistan couldn't be covered by the same kind of mounted patrols we did in Iraq. Irrigation canals were all over and typically crossed by mud foot-bridges, tree branches (gently caress these), or jumping (and falling in, so gently caress jumping too) That's kind of what I was getting at ... no one on our missions would hump a CG or even an AT-4 for that matter so the weight issue was nil. That was poo poo that got wheeled in. Sometimes we'd strap a a CG round to a Kommando's back here and there but if you asked me? poo poo on that poo poo.
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Victor Vermis posted:<75% of our AO in Afghanistan couldn't be covered by the same kind of mounted patrols we did in Iraq. Irrigation canals were all over and typically crossed by mud foot-bridges, tree branches (gently caress these), or jumping (and falling in, so gently caress jumping too) Is there any particular reason why a SAW doesn't get 'em behind cover?
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We strap the CG to pack frames with the loader for each cannon usually carrying four grenades with additional carrying coming from the rest of the support squad. Don't skip cardio days, guys  at least in the wintertime we load them into pulkkas and pull them through the snow.
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pkells posted:Wait, the Carl-G was introduced in 1948?! It's taken us over 50 years to realize "Hey, this thing is pretty great, maybe we should buy a lot more of them." In all fairness it's probably gone through a lot of upgrades in its ammo so it's not really a fair comparison. The original bazooka would probably be decent with modern day munitions.
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I'm ashamed I don't know being a former 11bangbang, but is it just the advent of shaped charges that make modern ATGMs so effective against tanks? Edit: not just ATGMs, but all rocket propelled anti tank stuff.
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Mike-o posted:I'm ashamed I don't know being a former 11bangbang, but is it just the advent of shaped charges that make modern ATGMs so effective against tanks? The Kornet can make over 1000 to 1300 mm of RHA penetration with tandem HEAT missiles. A T-72B with Kontakt 5 ERA maxes out at 1180 mm RHA equivalent at the thickest point on the turret, so a Kornet will blow a T-72 to smithereens if it hits. It's actually rated at higher RHA equivalent for HEAT than APFSDS; HEAT is good, but a super fast sabot is better. At least part of this is because a lot of the armor advances we're using now (like ERA and composite armor) affect the HEAT jet even more than they affect a kinetic penetrator. One big advantage to HEAT is that range doesn't matter. It'll penetrate the same no matter how far the warhead has to fly, so you can launch a guided missile with a super fat warhead from a hidden position 2 miles away and not lose a single millimeter of penetration when it reaches the target. You can also use very low-velocity warheads like rockets that fly slow enough to be seen as they travel through the air, which is why we were able to make Bazookas effective in the first place while still being easy to carry.
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holocaust bloopers posted:Is there any particular reason why a SAW doesn't get 'em behind cover? because mud wall houses are pretty good at stopping anything 25mm and below
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZEqR63k0kU At least one of these videos (the exploding AK) isn't the Syrian rebels.
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Wild Horses posted:It'll be sweet when the age of robots comes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDZu04v7_hc
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chitoryu12 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZEqR63k0kU the one where the guy falls out of the truck is Libya, too, I think there was a brief period where the Libyan rebels seemed like cool as gently caress dudes and that maybe things would go secular there lol
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Dec 26, 2015 14:17
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They had Caro's leadership to guide them.
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VikingSkull posted:there was a brief period where the Libyan rebels seemed like cool as gently caress dudes and that maybe things would go secular there Sad how naive this sounds now.
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chitoryu12 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZEqR63k0kU 2:50 is Newton's Third Law in action
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chowdown is a gear queer???
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Miloshe posted:Who carries this poo poo anyways. HMMWV, ATV, Mule, press-gang Sherpa etc. INTENSE HEAVY FIREFIGHT where the marines are secure enough that the sergeant literally makes sure everyone can get some, god bless the military industrial complex im not sure if im being ironic or not right now
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buttcoinbrony posted:INTENSE HEAVY FIREFIGHT Here's an actual heavy firefight video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh3Tq477dhw
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chitoryu12 posted:Here's an actual heavy firefight video: This is one of those things where I have no idea if that's heavy contact or not, but I'm certain it's the same kinda thing my grandfather called my cousin a pussy for talking about at a reunion a few years before he died. We get it pops, they used a lot of arty in Korea.
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God drat do I love me some Famas. It just looks so dangerous.
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VikingSkull posted:We get it pops, they used a lot of arty in Korea. I guess until American soldiers once again regularly face a serious threat from the air or indirect fire we shouldn't add the word "intense" to any firefight description. Caveat: urban combat probably still counts because that poo poo sounds terrifying
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Just look at all the cities in Syria that look like brown rubble right now they're on some Stalingrad poo poo
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Scratch Monkey posted:I guess until American soldiers once again regularly face a serious threat from the air or indirect fire we shouldn't add the word "intense" to any firefight description. Caveat: urban combat probably still counts because that poo poo sounds terrifying intense describes any time we take enemy fire after 6 hours of jdams
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Dec 27, 2015 07:44
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go3 posted:intense describes any time we take enemy fire after 6 hours of jdams
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Also road IEDs sucked and where I walked in the east of afghan the tripwire/boobytrap poo poo wasn't really in play, but the guys who had to walk in the South...man that poo poo would suck and I could see it easily following you home.
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Beastie posted:God drat do I love me some Famas. It just looks so dangerous. It's a huge piece of poo poo to load or manipulate in any kind of hurry. It shoots nice, moves well, but atrocious to gently caress with.
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Zeris posted:Also road IEDs sucked and where I walked in the east of afghan the tripwire/boobytrap poo poo wasn't really in play, but the guys who had to walk in the South...man that poo poo would suck and I could see it easily following you home. A documentary I worked on was about guys in sperwan ghar dealing with pressure plate ieds like that. All you can really do is move slow in single file and hope your gpr is working. Slim Pickens fucked around with this message at 10:13 on Dec 27, 2015 |
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buttcoinbrony posted:INTENSE HEAVY FIREFIGHT Clearing Bala Murghab was a pretty intense endeavor. Ain't no one ever givin' a gently caress about RC West.
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any time someone is shooting at you is pretty intense actually. maybe not as intense as storming omaha beach but it isnt a loving walk in the park either
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Miloshe posted:Clearing Bala Murghab was a pretty intense endeavor. Ain't no one ever givin' a gently caress about RC West. RC-W more like RC-what?
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Zeris posted:RC-W more like RC-what? You think it's easy watching Italian men tweeze their eyebrows in tailored cammies while you barter for a pallet of juice-box wine!? gently caress the Italians. Except for the liquor store in Herat. But really, gently caress those pieces of poo poo, thankfully they only rolled in 4 or 5 times.
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:any time someone is shooting at you is pretty intense actually. maybe not as intense as storming omaha beach but it isnt a loving walk in the park either this post was incomplete without a picture and/or gif of Walt Kowalski
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iyaayas01 posted:this post was incomplete without a picture and/or gif of Walt Kowalski 
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Kung Fu Fist gently caress posted:any time someone is shooting at you is pretty intense actually. maybe not as intense as storming omaha beach but it isnt a loving walk in the park either I've been in shady areas of Newburgh, close enough for me. The fact that some goat herder might be watching me through the sights of a Mosin would terrify me.
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Many years ago got shot at while I was traipsing through dense bush while pig hunting. Sporadic SKS fire in your general direction from parties unknown is not the greatest time I've ever had, let alone having someone get a bead on you with the intent to put a bullet in your gulliver you can keep that poo poo thankyou. Any way you'd think illegal weed farmers would be more chill but nope.
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