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Lurking Haro posted:It seems you believe in evil skeletons. You don't?? 
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Somfin posted:Nice redtext there. I too believe creators of a Mexican wrestling game might be trying to "impart messages" of a racist nature by referencing lucha libre. Thank you beloved WASP man for taking care of us.
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Dec 26, 2015 19:42
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I think we can all agree that everyone is a little bit racist deep down.
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Not a troll per se so much as frustrating design but in Xenoblade Chronicles X you spend 30-40 hours in game before you can buy your giant kickass robot. This is what happens to every single person when they finally get their giant robot: 1. This is awesome, I bet I could beat up that giant monster 2. oh gently caress oh gently caress 3. i have to pay insurance on this thing?! And by stomping around in your giant robot, you draw the attention of the biggest and nastiest monsters around, even if you don't mean to. Several times I've been going about by business only for my robot to be almost immediately blown up by some angry giant gorilla fifty feet away I didn't even see. Non Serviam posted:I too believe creators of a Mexican wrestling game might be trying to "impart messages" of a racist nature by referencing lucha libre. Thank you beloved WASP man for taking care of us. I don't know about who you represent but it definitely seems like you need a caregiver
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Calico Heart posted:Not a troll per se so much as frustrating design but in Xenoblade Chronicles X you spend 30-40 hours in game before you can buy your giant kickass robot. This is what happens to every single person when they finally get their giant robot: You don't pay for insurance at all, you just have a set number of repairs the insurance covers until the Skell has blown up several times already, then you need to start paying. However, If you get a perfect on the B button timing, you don't use up one of the insurance tickets. If you get down to only one repair covered, give the Skell to an NPC, because they always get a perfect and you won't need to pay for it to be repaired unless it isn't out of insurance. It can end up just being cheaper to buy a new one than repair an old one. Additionally, if you are playing online, you can switch your division for a fee. The highest rated division each day gets a salvage ticket, which is a free repair. If it is cheaper to switch divisions than repair, seems smart to do so.
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Dec 26, 2015 20:56
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Non Serviam posted:I too believe creators of a Mexican wrestling game might be trying to "impart messages" of a racist nature by referencing lucha libre. Thank you beloved WASP man for taking care of us. drat dude you sure showed me, all games are created equal and nothing is racist anymore. I guess Call of Juarez: The Cartel didn't have any message to send when it featured modern-day Mexican drug lords abducting American women for sexual slavery, because if I were to read that as fueled by anti-Mexican racism as well as a complete reversal of the actual truth, that would be me being my pitiful WASPy self. There are so many games that I haven't played because I didn't want to give my money to support horrible racist shitbags, but now that there's no racism in video games I suppose there's no harm in me buying them and giving my money to their creators.
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Dec 27, 2015 02:01
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Somfin posted:drat dude you sure showed me, all games are created equal and nothing is racist anymore. None of this has anything to do with Guacamelee (or Trolls From Game Developers).
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Pneub posted:None of this has anything to do with Guacamelee (or Trolls From Game Developers). Fair call, I'll back off. Sorry for making GBS threads up the thread.
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Dec 27, 2015 02:32
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Somfin posted:Fair call, I'll back off. Sorry for making GBS threads up the thread. Oh wow, that avatar. Looks like Non Serviam got sour as gently caress over you calling him out. 
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Dec 27, 2015 02:39
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Wanamingo posted:Oh wow, that avatar. Looks like Non Serviam got sour as gently caress over you calling him out. Woah! Finally! Someone bought me an avatar! It's such a merry Christmas this year  Thank you Non Serviam!
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Dec 27, 2015 02:47
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Somfin posted:Woah! Finally! Someone bought me an avatar! He sure showed you by spending  to get you an avatar.Wait, is that avatar racist? I think we should discuss it.
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Dec 27, 2015 02:50
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Somfin posted:Woah! Finally! Someone bought me an avatar! It wasn't me. I didn't enjoy getting a bullshit one either, I wouldn't spend 10 bucks to prove a point.
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Dabir posted:So let me tell you all a story about Elite: Dangerous, the spaceship flying game that actually exists. Steam recommended this game to me and it sort of peaked my interest but I ignored it. Is the video a good example of game play?
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snergle posted:Steam recommended this game to me and it sort of peaked my interest but I ignored it. Is the video a good example of game play? Kinda. It can be really fun, but there is a LOT of downtime and bullshit like that.
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Somfin posted:drat dude you sure showed me, all games are created equal and nothing is racist anymore.  Guacamelee thankfully does not involve any of what you're talking about. Out of all of the posts in this incomprehensibly stupid conversation this made me want to say something.
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mycot posted:
My point, which I admit might have gotten lost there, is that just because one game references another culture and manages not to be racist, doesn't mean that all games that reference other cultures aren't racist, and it's important to actively check in and make sure that what you're seeing isn't some fuckhead's white-power fantasy. It's not a bad thing to analyse media you consume. It's not 'pathetic' or 'white guilt' to not want to put money in the pockets of bad people. Guacamelee does, indeed, not have that poo poo going on in it. That doesn't mean that checking is an SJW conspiracy or whatever the hell.
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Dec 27, 2015 05:14
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snergle posted:Steam recommended this game to me and it sort of peaked my interest but I ignored it. Is the video a good example of game play? Firstly, 'piqued'. Secondly, not really. There is a good example of a delivery mission in there but it's got an hour of flying in a straight line in the middle because, again, Hutton Orbital SUCKS.
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Somfin posted:I guess Call of Juarez: The Cartel didn't have any message to send when it featured modern-day Mexican drug lords abducting American women for sexual slavery, because if I were to read that as fueled by anti-Mexican racism as well as a complete reversal of the actual truth, that would be me being my pitiful WASPy self. I forgot to mention this, so I apologize for going back. I think that the real problem comes from you seeing a depiction of a Mexican drug Lord doing horrible things and thinking it's an attack on Mexican people as a whole. You can portray cartels as gigantic human trafficking pieces of poo poo without that meaning you dislike us glorious Latin Americans, you know? So, yes, it is pathetic. Enjoy and keep it up.
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Non Serviam posted:So, yes, it is pathetic. Enjoy and keep it up. He's right, though. Call of Juarez was racist as gently caress.
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Dabir posted:Firstly, 'piqued'. Does E:D not have some spaceship version of auto run at least so you can get up and go do other poo poo?
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I mean it's not exactly Desert Bus, you don't have to make constant course corrections, so yes you could go have a sandwich or twenty while you're waiting, but you do have to manually guide yourself in at the end.
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Non Serviam posted:I forgot to mention this, so I apologize for going back. That's not what I said at all. The drug war is loving insane, and one major aspect of it is American money and guns. There is still a substantial slave market in America, and one of the sources is slaves taken by the cartels, brought north, and sold in the USA. The makers of this game decided to reverse it, turning the situation into a farce where the cartels are abducting Americans for sale in Mexico- this is entirely not how it works. The makers of this game decided to pander to American xenophobia and put in a plotline where those dirty Mexicans are stealin' our vulnerable women, rather than challenge America's self-image and show the situation as it really is. Some racist fuckhead playing that game got his worthless opinions reinforced rather than challenged. Feel free to stop scoring points against that strawman whenever you want, though. E: What the gently caress, I just realised that you believed what the game put forward. Do you not get how loving idiotic that is? Do you not challenge anything that anyone says? Jesus. Somfin has a new favorite as of 21:58 on Dec 27, 2015 |
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Dec 27, 2015 21:53
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Somfin posted:Feel free to stop scoring points against that strawman whenever you want, though. 
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Dec 27, 2015 21:55
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Somfin posted:That's not what I said at all. The drug war is loving insane, and one major aspect of it is American money and guns. There is still a substantial slave market in America, and one of the sources is slaves taken by the cartels, brought north, and sold in the USA. The makers of this game decided to reverse it, turning the situation into a farce where the cartels are abducting Americans for sale in Mexico- this is entirely not how it works. The makers of this game decided to pander to American xenophobia and put in a plotline where those dirty Mexicans are stealin' our vulnerable women, rather than challenge America's self-image and show the situation as it really is. Some racist fuckhead playing that game got his worthless opinions reinforced rather than challenged. LOL ok
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 Uh. Well. Okay. Got one, I guess. I think it's in Professor Layton and the Unwound Future. One puzzle involves looking at a wall of painted bricks and determinibng which colour was used most. Of course, it's not the colour of any of the designs, but the colour of the wall's background, which is off in a pail on the side. Easy to miss if you focus on the obvious. I do enjoy those bouts of trickery in the series.
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the actual best troll is pretending that SJWs don't exist
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Guys let me tell you about the irreparable mental damage I suffered when I was 4 hours old or w/e.
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:the actual best troll is pretending that SJWs don't exist There's a skeleton inside us all
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Actual content: So I got Saints Row 4 Gat Out of Hell for PS4 and one of the missions is a Christmas mission where you team up with Santa to save Christmas from an evil killer Santa. Evil Santa has taken over and barricaded the workshop and you have to bust in and save Mrs. Claus. The front doors are barred by candy canes and you are given a choice to either lick through the giant candy canes or go to the stables. To entirely lick through the candy canes demands about 10 minutes of mashing triangle, complete with awkward licking noises and funny messages from the developers. Turns out the door's locked and you have to go to the stables anyway.
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:Actual content: So I got Saints Row 4 Gat Out of Hell for PS4 and one of the missions is a Christmas mission where you team up with Santa to save Christmas from an evil killer Santa. Evil Santa has taken over and barricaded the workshop and you have to bust in and save Mrs. Claus. The front doors are barred by candy canes and you are given a choice to either lick through the giant candy canes or go to the stables. To entirely lick through the candy canes demands about 10 minutes of mashing triangle, complete with awkward licking noises and funny messages from the developers. That is fantastic. Do the candy canes blink from phase to phase or do they smoothly animate to an eaten state?
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Somfin posted:That is fantastic. Do the candy canes blink from phase to phase or do they smoothly animate to an eaten state? They appear solid until you lick them through, at which point they vanish. The only way to tell how far along you are is a progress bar that fills up at a rate of about 3 pixels per triangle press.
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Somfin posted:That is fantastic. Do the candy canes blink from phase to phase or do they smoothly animate to an eaten state? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZKxEhcstYA  The least common achievement in that game is one that only 1.3% of players have gotten. If we assume that every single one of those people used an achievement unlocker to get it, then it still means that a minimum of 2.4% of the people who played Saints Row 4 actually bothered to go through the entire eight minutes of listening to that one noise.
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I've always wanted to play through that but I've ended up on family trips during this time of year, which leaves me coming home at a time when it's no longer seasonally appropriate. :/
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Somfin posted:
No, I try not to take video games as sources for my geopolitical knowledge. You should do the same. But, please go ahead explaining how progressive and smart you are, you are doing a great job so far and I'd hate to see you stop now. Edit. Actual content. The biggest troll on metal Gear V was realizing the mutilplayer fob part has a pay to win element via purchasing coins. Another mean troll, spend lots of money on your buddy then see your buddy go. We all know which buddy.
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Wanamingo posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZKxEhcstYA Speaking of trolly achievements, Gunpoint has a fantastic one that can only be gained by people playing the game wrong. Gunpoint is a stealthy hacky game, and it has a system where you can tackle a guard by jumping on them with one button press, and then punch them unconscious with another one. You can keep pressing the punch button after the one punch needed, which will cause your character to continue to attack the downed guard. Messages from the dev pop up, at first assuming you've got it wrong, then informing you that there's no achievement for punching guards, then gradually becoming more and more disturbed. The dev begins to plead with you to stop, at one point asking if you'll stop for an achievement. There is an achievement for not stopping at that point. After this, the dev starts to go meta- the end stage is the developer posting a message "That is among the worst reasons to punch someone in the face ___ times" that updates with every hit.
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Please stop arguing about Call of Juarez and post more content. I apologize for not taking my own advice and including some content with this post but I am not really well-versed in trolls from game developers. 
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LITERALLY A BIRD posted:Please stop arguing about Call of Juarez and post more content. I got you, fam.
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My anger at this game shot to 11 when I realized those dicks respawned. And they just had to rub it in with that music.
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