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Speaking of cool model replacements, Quake 1.5 got released the other day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60wQD1u4VZg
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The Kins posted:Speaking of cool model replacements, Quake 1.5 got released the other day. The real technical marvel of that video is the fake DOS prompt that didn't throw a fit at trying to process "Quake 1.5" as a command 
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Dec 27, 2015 12:49
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Rupert Buttermilk posted:The real technical marvel of that video is the fake DOS prompt that didn't throw a fit at trying to process "Quake 1.5" as a command 
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Dec 27, 2015 12:54
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I'm surprised there isn't a million gun replacement mods for Quake with ripped models like with Doom and sprites. Q3 guns wouldn't look out of place for example. poo poo's so simple compared to some other games.
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Dec 27, 2015 13:25
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As much as I love this screenshot, even I, a mac user in the year of our lord 2015 (and almost 2016  ) shudder at the thought of pre-internet jiggering to get anything worthwhile running on OS 9 or earlier. I'm an Intel guy, and make no apologies. Only switched in 2006. I do feel bad that I missed out on the greyscale rainbow icons, though  (Edit: or the Macventure series)
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Dec 27, 2015 13:26
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The Kins posted:Speaking of cool model replacements, Quake 1.5 got released the other day. That Super Nailgun, Lightning Gun, and Grenade Launcher are sexy as hell.
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Dec 27, 2015 17:59
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closeted republican posted:Daikatana 1.3 has received a huge update that redoes the online protocol to make it smoother and to add things like map voting, spectator mode, and HTTP map voting. It also has lots of bug fixes and improvements, like much better Superfly and Mikiko pathing and map fixes, that have been worked on since the last 1.3 release. ...people make Daikatana fanpatches??? 
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Dec 27, 2015 22:53
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loga mira posted:I'm surprised there isn't a million gun replacement mods for Quake with ripped models like with Doom and sprites. Q3 guns wouldn't look out of place for example. poo poo's so simple compared to some other games. Quake's MDL format is a special form of terrible when it has to deal with things that have too much of... well, anything really. Polygons, verts, complex motion, you name it. MD2 is a bit more stable, but you can very easily hit it's limits too. it wasn't until MD3 that they stored information in actual integers and things STAYED PUT. Long story short, most people just make things explicitly for these formats. Quake 3 is kinda super dead modding wise so even though you COULD do that, nobody cares. Maybe if someone back-ported MD3 to Quake 1 and 2, you could get things going a bit easier. Diabetes Forecast fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Dec 27, 2015 |
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Dec 27, 2015 23:03
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Lemon Curdistan posted:...people make Daikatana fanpatches??? This should be the new thread title, mods, as it so perfectly and succinctly describes PC gaming 
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Dec 28, 2015 01:46
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I'm still waiting on Daikatana trading cards.
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Dec 28, 2015 01:56
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ChickenHeart posted:I'm still waiting on Daikatana trading cards. I have Quake 2 action figures, including the mutant shark thingie, that seems almost as weird. Ok not quite as weird.
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Dec 28, 2015 01:59
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The Source model format is derived from Goldsrc which is derived from Quake and its an abortion to try to do anything with with everything hacked into it over the years.
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Dec 28, 2015 02:02
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Heavy Metal posted:I have Quake 2 action figures, including the mutant shark thingie, that seems almost as weird. Ok not quite as weird. I'm also still waiting for wave 2 of that line 
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Dec 28, 2015 02:05
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I assume the Daikatana 1.3 guys are the ones that got the source code from Romero? Personally, I wish someone would cobble something together for SiN, I just want to play that in real widescreen with workable computers. Because I keep on trying to play it and it feels just a little bit off to me and I'm not sure if that's the game itself or if it's some weird technical thing. Also I'd like the reload function and the interact function to get split up, that weirds me out every time I play.
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Dec 28, 2015 02:14
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loga mira posted:Same, Quake's guns "feel" much better to me than Doom's but the models are mostly made of primitives, just boxes stuck together, and the animations are super simple. Maybe they ran out of time because monsters' models are much more complex and their animations still hold up imo. Quake's guns are much faster though so the animations can't be frame perfect, and I'm editing the sounds as well. It should be considered a crime against nature to include a double-barreled shotgun in a game without proper reloading animations or a satisfying accompanying clip-clop-clip audio.
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Dec 28, 2015 02:15
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ChickenHeart posted:I'm also still waiting for wave 2 of that line Hell yeah, hey never say never, I'm waiting for Half-Life 3. Here's a pic of that sweet shark toy: 
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Dec 28, 2015 02:16
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catlord posted:Also I'd like the reload function and the interact function to get split up, that weirds me out every time I play. Are you able to bind it to different keys? That should be enough.
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Dec 28, 2015 02:35
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Colon Semicolon posted:Quake's MDL format is a special form of terrible when it has to deal with things that have too much of... well, anything really. I kinda like how it has everything sewn up in one file, but that has more drawbacks overall of course. Cream-of-Plenty posted:It should be considered a crime against nature to include a double-barreled shotgun in a game without proper reloading animations or a satisfying accompanying clip-clop-clip audio. Haven't tackled the ssg yet but Quake's is considerably faster shooting than Doom's so the full reload may be a problem. Progress.  Doom for reference. 
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Dec 28, 2015 02:48
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catlord posted:I assume the Daikatana 1.3 guys are the ones that got the source code from Romero? Yep. They've actually done a good job with improving it. Being able to play it in widescreen and having the ability to disable companions makes the game feel a lot more smooth and enjoyable. If you want to play with partners, the pathing has been significantly improved so that they're actually useful instead of a perpetual hindrance. quote:The Source model format is derived from Goldsrc which is derived from Quake and its an abortion to try to do anything with with everything hacked into it over the years. The "Source is not derived from Quake 1" line you see once and a while is ridiculous once you play around with Source for a while. The model format can be traced back to Quake 1, the map format is quite similar to Quake 1's (at least back when HL2 first launched), and even the workflow is an almost 1:1 copy of how to make mods for Quake 1.
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Dec 28, 2015 02:50
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Mak0rz posted:Are you able to bind it to different keys? That should be enough. No, the use key just also reloads. closeted republican posted:Yep. They've actually done a good job with improving it. Being able to play it in widescreen and having the ability to disable companions makes the game feel a lot more smooth and enjoyable. If you want to play with partners, the pathing has been significantly improved so that they're actually useful instead of a perpetual hindrance. Yeah, I've heard that. At some point I'll grab Daikatana and playing without sidekicks will certainly be a blessing. catlord fucked around with this message at 03:17 on Dec 28, 2015 |
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Dec 28, 2015 03:01
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Anyone else having problems with the latest version of Beautiful Doom? I keep getting the following script error on startup: BDoom_60.pk3:bdoom_monsters.wad:BM_POSS line 18: Call to unknown function 'CheckClass'
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Dec 28, 2015 06:32
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When in doubt, update to the latest devbuild of GZDoom
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Dec 28, 2015 06:39
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catlord posted:No, the use key just also reloads. There's no time like the present when the game is 75% off right now.
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Dec 28, 2015 06:47
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No. Don't let John Romero make you his bitch. It's 2015. We know better.
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The Kins posted:When in doubt, update to the latest devbuild of GZDoom My lovely graphic card doesn't support OpenGL 3.0.
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Dec 28, 2015 06:51
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Luigi Thirty posted:No. Don't let John Romero make you his bitch. It's 2015. We know better. But, it's only a $1.75! Surely it's not as bad as it's reputation...... 
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Dec 28, 2015 06:53
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catlord posted:No, the use key just also reloads. What I mean is that some games from that era allowed you to bind the same command to multiple keys. I realize that use/reload are the same key, but if hitting E for Use and R for Reload is habitual, just bind the command to both keys and use them as normal. CDN $1.94 is a ripoff. I saw it for $0.49 at an EB Games once 
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Wamdoodle posted:But, it's only a $1.75! Surely it's not as bad as it's reputation......
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Castor Poe posted:My lovely graphic card doesn't support OpenGL 3.0. http://devbuilds.drdteam.org/zdoom/ ZDoom isn't as flashy as GZDoom, but it doesn't require OpenGL at all.
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TerminusEst13 posted:http://devbuilds.drdteam.org/zdoom/ Also, Graf Zahl found someone to maintain the 1.8 branch so it may be possible to bug people to get dev builds of it.
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loga mira posted:I'm surprised there isn't a million gun replacement mods for Quake with ripped models like with Doom and sprites. Q3 guns wouldn't look out of place for example. poo poo's so simple compared to some other games. Quake I Arena mod did exactly this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNlnjuwD2gU Also, super ambitious mod Your Path Of Destruction tried to remake Doom into Quake engine, with gems like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLWEjvTgOOQ The mod itself is interesting, but very buggy (weapon models tend to disappear after quickload), but it gave those wonderful 3D models used in Doomsday engine.
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Speaking of porting assets from one game to the other, I loved Generations a lot when it came out but it's no wonder that it got Foxed in short order. Edit: Oddly enough, Fileplanet still has it to download even though id killed it on top of Fileplanet being long defunct. It's worth checking out as a curiosity; as far as single player content goes it has the duel with the Cyberdemon in the Tower of Babel as well as most of the first episode of Quake. You can also check out a bunch of Doom and Doom II maps recreated for deathmatch with changes to make them flow better or have more weapons. There were Wolfenstein 3D maps but they were in a patch that I'm not sure exists anywhere now. BattleMaster fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Dec 28, 2015 |
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Dec 28, 2015 15:00
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BattleMaster posted:Speaking of porting assets from one game to the other,
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The Kins posted:It's a pity the SOG mod for Quake 2 was so terrible. I forgot that was a thing; I never bothered with it because it seemed pointless to redo it with off-brand characters and no real connections to the original games, even if that was a fix for the legal issues. However, I'm on a Quake 2 nostalgia kick so in between tinkering with the gamex86.dll code and replaying the original game and expansions I'll go check it out. I managed to find a download for it but it's a shame that Quake 2 stuff was so poorly archived.
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short public service announcement remember trailblazer, the gameplay mod for doom? it's going to get an update, someday! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNbpeH31h-k also, this video popped on my tumblr feed and I think it's one of the most interesting upcoming zdoom (and later, gloome) projects - memoirs of magic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIA-2GQdQM8
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laserghost posted:short public service announcement This looks fun as hell, especially if I have Elvis to groove to, playing in the background. Come to think of it, I would have to say all Doom gameplay would be more fun with that song playing the whole time through.
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Dec 28, 2015 15:41
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The Kins posted:Speaking of cool model replacements, Quake 1.5 got released the other day. I dunno I think these gun models look like serious butt
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Dec 28, 2015 16:46
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Has anybody else playing Arcane Dimensions managed to find all the tomes on ad_swampy? I want to love the map, poo poo's huge and really impressive but god drat is that an obnoxious prop hunt
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Dec 28, 2015 16:47
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Zaphod42 posted:I dunno I think these gun models look like serious butt Yeah, definitely a mixed bag. Actually I only liked the nailgun and grenade launcher, super shotgun looks like the author tried to imitate Q2 ssg, but it doesn't really work. I liked the details like battery pack on lightning gun, and the whole thing shows a lot of work done, but it doesn't really click for me. But my mate, who bought the whole Quake series on Steam sale few days ago loved it, so maybe it's for people who didn't grow with blocky shotgun and rocket launcher that looks like a construction tube with holes. Rest of us can always use the "fixed" weapons pack from primevil. Also I only could make the Q1.5 pack work in darkplaces, qspasm immediately closes before it loads any map.
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