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Breaking: ISF claims they have just recaptured Ramadi, and Peshmerga and US SF forces have raided ISIS base in Hawija
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This is hope against hope but I wonder at what point the rank and file realize this is not the real caliphate and we see a failure cascade. It will be interesting to see how this all ends up.
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Dec 27, 2015 17:11
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My Imaginary GF posted:I think that'd be Yemen. First it devoured Egypt's deployment, and now it continues to eat off KSA's intervention. Ummmm, so Israel is a group of religious fanatics who sleepwalked into a deserved genocide?? Mods?
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Dec 27, 2015 17:14
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THE BOMBINATRIX posted:Having not played SWTOR in a long time can you please elaborate? The Republic side stories are all largely boring, but the Jedi's are the worst of the lot. In addition, the Republic is consistently portrayed as corrupt and/or incompetent, and entirely willing to compromise morals at the drop of a hat. The Jedi largely follow their marching orders to the letter, such as not helping a group of villagers under attack by monsters because the Republic doesn't want them on a planet. The Empire stories are not only more interesting than the Republic, playing a light side Sith turns you into feeling like the only sane person in the galaxy. While the Empire is transparently the "baddies," there is little difference between them and the Republic. The story writers interestingly point out a few times that the majority of the galaxy doesn't care who "owns" the planet, they just want to be left alone. If you want greater details, ask in the SWTOR thread and goons will post about it for pages.
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Dec 27, 2015 17:17
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Dec 27, 2015 17:50
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTwbz8v0NDM Fireworks celebrating the liberation of Ramadi
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Dec 27, 2015 19:09
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Freedom Falcons have claimed responsibility for this weeks Istanbul bombing. Killed a cleaning lady, way to win western hearts and minds.
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Dec 27, 2015 19:46
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My Imaginary GF posted:I think that'd be Yemen. First it devoured Egypt's deployment, and now it continues to eat off KSA's intervention. Wait, the Israelis are a faction we're told we should sympathize with but actually turn out to be murderous thugs high on their own supply and were prevented from unlawfully establishing their own state? When did you come around on the Israelis there MIGF?
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Dec 27, 2015 20:33
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FaustianQ posted:Wait, the Israelis are a faction we're told we should sympathize with but actually turn out to be murderous thugs high on their own supply and were prevented from unlawfully establishing their own state? When did you come around on the Israelis there MIGF? When Iran killed Han Solo while Israel advanced the cause of gender equality in combat forces
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Dec 27, 2015 20:37
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Apparently MIGF thinks that allowing Iran to kill all the Jewish children will one day save the galaxy.
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Dec 27, 2015 20:39
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fool_of_sound posted:Apparently MIGF thinks that allowing Iran to kill all the Jewish children will one day save the galaxy. Why does MIGF want Iran to kill all the Israeli children, then for Israel to pack it up, cede its territory, and run away to become an isolationist on a different planet? Is he some kind of anti-semite?
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Dec 27, 2015 20:52
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https://twitter.com/EjmAlrai/status/681181905371402242quote:"Get ready Jarablus (#ISIS), we are coming." #YPG fighter writes on Tishreen Dam. Photo by @rojinakin v @dijraberi   https://twitter.com/4rj1n/status/680836424623648771 quote:After taking control of Tishrin Dam SDF operation continues w. coalition airsupport on the western side of Euphrates. #TwitterKurds quote:SDF advanced 2 km west of Tishrin Dam. Fierce ongoing clashes with ISIS. 1 SVBIED neutralized. 11 ISIS bodies in SDF possession.
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Dec 27, 2015 21:03
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sparatuvs posted:Freedom Falcons have claimed responsibility for this weeks Istanbul bombing. Killed a cleaning lady, way to win western hearts and minds. The TAK coming back after years of inactivity is a really bad sign by the way, they where always much more indiscriminate in their attacks and considered to be much more hardline than the PKK military leadership were (at least openly).
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Dec 27, 2015 21:14
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Can't say Turkey hasn't brought it on themselves.
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Dec 27, 2015 21:24
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So is it confirmed that the YPG has crossed the Euphrates? Like somewhere other than twitter?
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Dec 27, 2015 21:28
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Count Roland posted:So is it confirmed that the YPG has crossed the Euphrates? Like somewhere other than twitter? I'm pretty sure I heard Erdogan's gnashing teeth all the way here a few hours ago, so probably.
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Dec 27, 2015 22:01
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Count Roland posted:So is it confirmed that the YPG has crossed the Euphrates? Like somewhere other than twitter? It's like, a lot of the tweets have pictures attached, the YPG/SDF obviously took Tishrin dam with the assistance of coalition airstrikes, and so when those same tweet sources say the YPG/SDF are entering the town of Tishrin with the assistance of coalition airstrikes I tend to believe them. I guess you can have this as some kind of proof: Nope, no embedding this one quote:Update #tashrin town fade5 fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Feb 9, 2016 |
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Dec 27, 2015 22:02
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Darkman Fanpage posted:Can't say Turkey hasn't brought it on themselves. Funny how no one would say 9/11 was deserved, but when muslims face terrorism folks say poo poo like this.
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Dec 27, 2015 22:08
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The tweets I'm posting also aren't just random, unsourced tweets, they're generally from the same group of twitter users (Jack Shahine, Dr. Partizan, Cahida Dêrsim/@dilkocer, A Dunon/@4rj1n, and the general #twitterkurds group among others) so by now I recognize them and they've been generally as accurate (or more accurate) than regular news sources. Just because it's from twitter doesn't mean it's inaccurate, a huge part of the Syrian Civil War is from twitter. You have to learn to know how accurate a source is and what biases they have (Peto Lucem being a pro-gov mapmaker, for example) when looking at what they're saying is happening on the ground. lilljonas posted:I'm pretty sure I heard Erdogan's gnashing teeth all the way here a few hours ago, so probably. And Erdogan knows he can't complain too loudly because the US/NATO backed him after he shot down that Russian plane. Privately I'm assuming that's why the US is now okay backing the YPG/SDF into Turkey's "safe zone", because they know Turkey isn't in a position to complain or make demands. fade5 fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Dec 27, 2015 |
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Dec 27, 2015 22:13
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Lascivious Sloth posted:Breaking: ISF claims they have just recaptured Ramadi, and Peshmerga and US SF forces have raided ISIS base in Hawija good news for once. are they still fighting holdout or is ISIS pulling out?
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Dec 27, 2015 22:15
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I know it won't happen in a day, but what happens if the kurds/rebels take Manbij? How would that affect ISIL?
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Dec 27, 2015 22:24
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uninterrupted posted:Funny how no one would say 9/11 was deserved, but when muslims face terrorism folks say poo poo like this. He was talking about the YPG crossing the Euphrates, not the loving terrorist attacks, Captain Offended.
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Dec 27, 2015 22:27
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Dapper_Swindler posted:good news for once. are they still fighting holdout or is ISIS pulling out? Allegedly the raid on Hawija was to free Peshmerga captives again, and ISF control 60% of Ramadi.
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Dec 27, 2015 22:28
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Lascivious Sloth posted:Allegedly the raid on Hawija was to free Peshmerga captives again, and ISF control 60% of Ramadi. And Ramadi is surrounded so presumably there's no pulling out for Daesh.
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Dec 27, 2015 22:31
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fade5 posted:The tweets I'm posting also aren't just random, unsourced tweets, they're generally from the same group of twitter users (Jack Shahine, Dr. Partizan, Cahida Dêrsim/@dilkocer, A Dunon/@4rj1n, and the general #twitterkurds group among others) so by now I recognize them and they've been generally as accurate (or more accurate) than regular news sources. Thank goodness for Putin's intervention in Syria, without which ISIL would not be rolling back as they currently are by mostly appropriate forces due to Turkish air support. Turkey wants to bomb YPG forces in Syria? I'm sure Russians would love to shoot themselves down some Turkish jets and bomb Turkish convoys.
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Dec 27, 2015 22:38
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Anosmoman posted:there's no pulling out for Daesh. It's an ineffective strategy anyway.
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Dec 27, 2015 22:40
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SSNeoman posted:I know it won't happen in a day, but what happens if the kurds/rebels take Manbij? How would that affect ISIL?  Here's the current control map:  One year ago, ISIL had control of Tal Abyad, which meant that their supply lines went straight from the Turkish border to Raqqa. When that was cut off in May/June by the Tal Abyad offensive, that meant ISIL's supply lines got a lot longer, since they had to go from Jarabulus through Manbij through Tishrin dam to Raqqa. Now, Tishrin dam is cut off, meaning ISIL has to go through that chokepoint between Lake Jabboul/Jabbul on the left and Lake Assad/Revolution Lake on the right, and enter Raqqa from the south across the Euphrates. (A lot of those bridges south of Raqqa have been destroyed, making this even harder.) If Manbij is taken, that makes ISIL's supply lines even longer, and put ISIL at serious risk of being choked off entirely from access to the Turkish border depending how all the other forces in the area react to the YPG/SDF taking Manbij. ISIL is slowly being choked off; you might say the plan going forward is to "degrade, and ultimately destroy" them. 
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Dec 27, 2015 22:47
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Dusty Baker 2 posted:It's an ineffective strategy anyway. true. where would they pull out too. My guess is either surrender or fight to the last man.
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Dec 27, 2015 23:07
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SSNeoman posted:I know it won't happen in a day, but what happens if the kurds/rebels take Manbij? How would that affect ISIL? I already see Kurdish nationalists claiming Manbij is majority Kurd. Which I'm sure it will be when they're done with it. ass struggle fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Dec 28, 2015 |
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Dec 27, 2015 23:12
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uninterrupted posted:Funny how no one would say 9/11 was deserved, but when muslims face terrorism folks say poo poo like this. This is a much more clear cut case of begging for blowback.
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Dec 27, 2015 23:25
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mlmp08 posted:Why does MIGF want Iran to kill all the Israeli children, then for Israel to pack it up, cede its territory, and run away to become an isolationist on a different planet? Is he some kind of anti-semite? In short he's trying to be all Tywin Lannister/Machiavellian and poo poo, (and I wouldn't have known better than to concur 5 years ago) but is failing epically on many levels.
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Dec 27, 2015 23:26
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Grouchio posted:He probably thinks it would shut up all the men in the Arab world butt-hurt about their atrocities against Palestine, and in driving them out would also significantly lessen the US as a focus for their hate (supporting Israel and all). And that without such conflict (brought upon by, you know, genocide) that such Islamist sentiments against the west so everyone can go sing 'kumbaya'. Except that, you know, the Middle East is already drying up (in terms of food, water and oil) in resources, that, couped with an exploding population of disgruntled young zealots, is already going to launch the Middle East into a socio-ecological death spiral anyways, no matter what we do. how long does the middle east have. 100 years? 50 years?
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Dec 27, 2015 23:28
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Of course TAK reactivating to carry out attacks isn't a good thing as it only allows Turkey to justify its repression of Kurds.
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Dec 27, 2015 23:29
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Dapper_Swindler posted:how long does the middle east have. 100 years? 50 years?
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Dec 27, 2015 23:30
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Dapper_Swindler posted:true. where would they pull out too. My guess is either surrender or fight to the last man. Everyone always thinks they'll be able to time it perfectly, too, but it never happens quite like that.
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Dec 27, 2015 23:41
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How can people support these petty vandals? Assad and ISIS may be objectively worse but I don't see how Syria can be rebuilt by people who commit misdemeanors.
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Dec 27, 2015 23:48
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My Imaginary GF posted:Thank goodness for Putin's intervention in Syria, without which ISIL would not be rolling back as they currently are by mostly appropriate forces due to Turkish air support. The Kurds have been beating up Daesh since Kobane so it's really just the push across the Euphrates that is new. Well that and more Syrian civilians getting blowed up. But yeah, Turkey antagonizing Russia worked out great. One more country has been alienated from Russia and Erdogan is kept from loving with the Kurds. It's always risky when a couple of regional powers start waving their tiny dicks around but sometimes everything just works out.
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Dec 27, 2015 23:50
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Anosmoman posted:The Kurds have been beating up Daesh since Kobane so it's really just the push across the Euphrates that is new. Well that and more Syrian civilians getting blowed up.
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Dec 27, 2015 23:53
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My Imaginary GF posted:Thank goodness for Putin's intervention in Syria, without which ISIL would not be rolling back as they currently are by mostly appropriate forces due to Turkish air support. Yup Russia's bombing sure is helping the kurds, despite not helping the kurds and instead bombing rebels fighting ISIS in a completely different part of Syria.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:true. where would they pull out too. My guess is either surrender or fight to the last man. one of the drawbacks of relying on foreign fighters is that they're far less concerned about losing ground in (their eyes, anyway) some podunk desert provincial town than local fighters are. The locals rightfully fear retribution towards their families/property and have an emotional connection to the land they're fighting for; foreigners have their fanaticism and little else. I'd be interested to see the ratio of foreign/local ISIS fighters that've been captured.
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