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gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

norp posted:

Is it a holiday area? Because principal homes mean you live there most of the time, someone with a house they rent out most of the year doesn't get poo poo

I find it hard to feel for people who have lost a holiday home when I can't even afford a normal one.

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Wrestlepig
Feb 25, 2011

my mum says im cool

Toilet Rascal
Most of the population of these areas are retirees, not robber barons.

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS
If they're baby boomers they're more or less the same thing

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop
Well in this thread I suppose the previous posts actually do count as well wishes and expressions of seasonal cheer.

I'm sincerely glad nobodyb has been killed. :ohdear: Bushfires are scary.

Dude McAwesome
Sep 30, 2004

Still better than a Ponytar

gay picnic defence posted:

I find it hard to feel for people who have lost a holiday home when I can't even afford a normal one.

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

squat my posts

dr_rat posted:

So thats should help a bit to rebuild the community hopefully.

Prefer they gave 32k to people who have never had a home.

To everyone else that's what insurance is for. Yes, its is a regret purchase but gently caress you if you don't have it.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

quote:

The advertising agency behind the controversial "Stoner Sloth" anti-marijuana videos, which cost taxpayers half a million dollars, has hit back at criticism, saying the campaign's message is completely lost on adults.

After a week of relentless ridicule, Saatchi & Saatchi (S&S) has stepped out in defence of the NSW government's latest anti-drugs initiative, which it created.

The global creative firm described the $500,000 budget as a "moderate spend in advertising terms" which has generated a "significant return on investment and involvement" for its client.

S&S also took a swipe at those fuelling a social media backlash, arguing the concept was never intended to be viewed through their eyes.

"The videos we created were designed as part of a preventative campaign specifically for teens; the audience is not for adults or long-term cannabis users," said a spokesman.

"Two different creative approaches were pre-tested by independent researchers among the teenage target audience, which verified the potential efficacy for this campaign."

Launched last week under the slogan "you're worse on weed", the campaign warns teens of the dangers of regular marijuana use by portraying those who smoke it as grumbling, disconnected "stoner sloths".

It has since generated 4 million views on Facebook and YouTube as well as a further 30,000 Facebook likes.

Meanwhile, international news agencies from the BBC to Time magazine,have reported on the campaign. It also sparked some 25 parody videos that have been viewed almost 100,000 times.

"The videos have truly gone viral," said the S&S spokesman who added: "The unexpected global media attention is now providing a platform for parents and teenagers all over the world to have 'the conversation' about cannabis in an engaging way."

Another creative agency behind the project, UM, which oversaw media buy, strategy and social media, is also interpreting the "strong viewership and engagement" as a success.

"While it's early days, our research shows the majority of negative comments are not from our target audience, which is teenagers," said a UM spokesperson.

Fairfax Media sought comment from neutral experts in the advertising industry.

"The problem is that whenever a campaign is sent up and greeted with howls of derisive laughter, you've got a major problem," said award-winning advertising writer Jane Caro, who added the target audience would be "completely aware" that the sloth concept had been rubbished.

She pointed to the infamous Roads and Traffic Authority 'Little Pinkie' adverts – which belittled men who speed – as a campaign geared towards young people that "genuinely worked"

"It worked because it took risks. It was a little bit rude," she said. "Whereas this feels parental. It is trying to be safe. You can see how inoffensive it is trying to be. And the problem with being inoffensive is, it becomes lame."

But marketing and advertising consultant Toby Ralph, who has worked on numerous large health education campaigns, believes the "mudslide of criticism" has been largely unjustified.

"My opinion, for what it is worth, is that it is a good campaign. All this is doing is saying that some heavy weed smokers can become boring as bats---, and I think it does it well."

Matt Noffs, meanwhile, whose Noffs Foundation specialises in drug treatment for youngsters, described the mockery as "fair feedback" from a wider community who viewed the videos as a "waste of money".

"For less than the cost of this campaign, we run street universities that help hundreds of kids off drugs," he said, adding: "The biggest issue I have with this campaign is that it stigmatises children with drug issues."

Truly it is the case this campaign speaks to teenagers.

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

Graic Gabtar posted:

Prefer they gave 32k to people who have never had a home.

To everyone else that's what insurance is for. Yes, its is a regret purchase but gently caress you if you don't have it.

I'm surprised it's not mandatory. Maybe local governments should take out a policy to cover everyone and add the cost to rates or something.

Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.
My sisters uncles mums ex bf's best mate was once in (place where thing happened).

I'm an idiot who can only contextualise bad things via a personal connection.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

quote:

Our campaign was 'totes magoates' relvent and edgy with the cool kids!
________________________________________/
That really cool and in touch middle aged advertising exec from the Gruen report or some poo poo.

Birb Katter
Sep 18, 2010

BOATS STOPPED
CARBON TAX AXED
TURNBULL AS PM
LIBERALS WILL BE RE-ELECTED IN A LANDSLIDE

Lid posted:

Truly it is the case this campaign speaks to teenagers.

They missed a perfect opportunity to say 'amazeballz'

open24hours
Jan 7, 2001

It's, like, totally far out and groovy.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

Does insurance cover bushfires?

Seems like a given but I know that after 2011 a lot of insurance companies will no longer insure if your house for flood if you're anywhere near a potential floodzone.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

freebooter posted:

Does insurance cover bushfires?
Depends on the policy/state

http://www.propertyobserver.com.au/forward-planning/investment-strategy/property-news-and-insights/23365-fire-safety-levys.html

In NSW you pay a levy (on your insurance policy) that supposedly goes towards paying for emergency services. The insurance commpanies make you pay through the nose if you try and insure a property in a known bushfire area. Which discorages people paying for insurance at all.......

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-24/australian-leaders-wish-voters-a-happy-holiday-period/7052758

In his Xmas message Malformed Turdball attempted to cash in on some of that 25 Billion a year boondoggle called defence expenditure by wishing our troops overseas some Xmas goodwill. Personally I find that if I am experiencing feelings of goodwill to others I don't choose to send them to Middle Eastern hell holes or to overfly sensative parts of the South China Sea :shrug:

Little sickens me more than politicians ruthlessly exploiting the men and women of the defence forces in this way (And one of these things is exploiting vulnerable assylum seekers by putting them in prison camps for shallow political gain)..

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

Cartoon posted:

________________________________________/
That really cool and in touch middle aged advertising exec from the Gruen report or some poo poo.

rekt

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Cartoon posted:

________________________________________/
That really cool and in touch middle aged advertising exec from the Gruen report or some poo poo.

http://mumbrella.com.au/i-wish-id-made-the-stoner-sloth-campaign-336871

norp
Jan 20, 2004

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

let's invade New Zealand, they have oil
Even the coalition voters don't want to kill penalty rates. What the hell do these clowns think they are doing?

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/coalition-voters-reject-cut-in-sunday-penalty-rates-20151224-gluncn.html

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Wow. 20% want them abolished in tones seat????

Pred1ct
Feb 20, 2004
Burninating

quote:

Meanwhile, international news agencies from the BBC to Time magazine,have reported on the campaign. It also sparked some 25 parody videos that have been viewed almost 100,000 times.

"The videos have truly gone viral," said the S&S spokesman who added: "The unexpected global media attention is now providing a platform for parents and teenagers all over the world to have 'the conversation' about cannabis in an engaging way."

Actually, these videos and memes parodying our campaign are good. I find it funny that you think we are being mocked, what with all this media exposure which we are receiving, all of which is good by the way.

Seagull
Oct 9, 2012

give me a chip
it's actually really funny to me that you think we're mad about being meme: it's good actually

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

wow we just came back from the ad company gym and it looks like all you nerds are making memes about how our ad campaign is bad? the campaign is good, actually, and we're all laughing at you here at the ad company. our extremely hot wives will laugh too when we go home and tell them. peace out, losers

Nibbles!
Jun 26, 2008

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

make australia great again as well please
They should have recorded the audio like those ultrasonic ringtones so only teenagers could hear it and adults couldn't criticise.

Graic Gabtar
Dec 19, 2014

squat my posts

norp posted:

Even the coalition voters don't want to kill penalty rates. What the hell do these clowns think they are doing?

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/coalition-voters-reject-cut-in-sunday-penalty-rates-20151224-gluncn.html

"Dead, buried and cremated"

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
That doesn't matter that much without data on how strongly they care about it(whether it would contribute to changing their vote)

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.
Queensland continues its war on the environment to the tune of 200,000 litres of sulphuric acid: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/queensland-freight-train-carrying-sulphuric-acid-derailed-20151227-glvet3.html

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Premier, how many jobs will these acid trains create and why create acid trains, your unholiness?

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Took the name of the town literally and thought an acid train crashed into a waterway, making it way worse. :v:

Also lmao at releasing the report on Australia's carbon increase on christmas eve.

Meat Miracle
Oct 24, 2010
Update: The discovery of a toxic, corrosive sludge in the train carriages led to the mistaken assumption it was a freight train, now confirmed to be a Queensland commuter train.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop
Behold my proposition for an anti hemp video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJW67QN24SA

Make the cheque for 1/2 a mil out to Cartoon.

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay

Cartoon posted:

Behold my proposition for an anti hemp video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJW67QN24SA

Make the cheque for 1/2 a mil out to Cartoon.

expected friendlyjordies tbh

BOAT SHOWBOAT
Oct 11, 2007

who do you carry the torch for, my young man?
http://m.smh.com.au/national/pancake-parlour-employees-win-penalty-rates-for-late-nights-weekends-20150921-gjrwmn.html

This dude is me (tldr; work for Pancake Parlour, they were on an old WorkChoices era contract with no penalty rates and I took them to Fair Work to force them to update it across the whole franchise). The article and the quote make it seem like they rolled over a lot easier than they did, they challenged it at every step and it was a lot of work. It will be really disappointing if this goes through and we lose what we worked for.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop

BOAT SHOWBOAT posted:

http://m.smh.com.au/national/pancake-parlour-employees-win-penalty-rates-for-late-nights-weekends-20150921-gjrwmn.html

This dude is me (tldr; work for Pancake Parlour, they were on an old WorkChoices era contract with no penalty rates and I took them to Fair Work to force them to update it across the whole franchise). The article and the quote make it seem like they rolled over a lot easier than they did, they challenged it at every step and it was a lot of work. It will be really disappointing if this goes through and we lose what we worked for.

quote:

Employer group Restaurant and Catering Australia said the existing penalty rates regime was causing business closures and suppressing productivity.
Never miss an opportunity to beat the drum no matter how broken.

Nautilus42
Jan 14, 2008
Unrelated sea creature
Isn't pancake parlour a scientologist front?

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Productivity is anti-australian.

Frogfingers
Oct 10, 2012
Pancake Parlour is the only thing keeping Scientology Australia afloat so exploiting people is pretty old hat for them.

BOAT SHOWBOAT
Oct 11, 2007

who do you carry the torch for, my young man?

Frogfingers posted:

Pancake Parlour is the only thing keeping Scientology Australia afloat so exploiting people is pretty old hat for them.

It runs a lot deeper than just the fact their old ECA/contract was meant to have expired (following the Fair Work hearing we are now on the Industry Award), even the contract they were running wasn't being fulfilled to a tee. It actually had a provision for penalty rates on weekends, with the caveat being that it was only paid when the staff member didn't "request" a weekend shift. Except, upon being hired we were given a sheet which we were told to sign under the heading "Roster Requests" that they could use as evidence that we "requested" the shift. So, they could point to their contract and say they paid penalty rates while having a loophole to never in fact need to do so.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Lmao at them threatening with "no more free staff lunch"

The peasants will starve I say. Starve if they get proper pay!

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

BOAT SHOWBOAT posted:

http://m.smh.com.au/national/pancake-parlour-employees-win-penalty-rates-for-late-nights-weekends-20150921-gjrwmn.html

This dude is me (tldr; work for Pancake Parlour, they were on an old WorkChoices era contract with no penalty rates and I took them to Fair Work to force them to update it across the whole franchise). The article and the quote make it seem like they rolled over a lot easier than they did, they challenged it at every step and it was a lot of work. It will be really disappointing if this goes through and we lose what we worked for.

you a good dude

BCR
Jan 23, 2011

BOAT SHOWBOAT posted:

It runs a lot deeper than just the fact their old ECA/contract was meant to have expired (following the Fair Work hearing we are now on the Industry Award), even the contract they were running wasn't being fulfilled to a tee. It actually had a provision for penalty rates on weekends, with the caveat being that it was only paid when the staff member didn't "request" a weekend shift. Except, upon being hired we were given a sheet which we were told to sign under the heading "Roster Requests" that they could use as evidence that we "requested" the shift. So, they could point to their contract and say they paid penalty rates while having a loophole to never in fact need to do so.

Good on ya for fighting the shitheads.

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iajanus
Aug 17, 2004

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Nicely done!

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