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vuohi
Nov 22, 2004
The Geocities Webring of Finnish Furry Vore Artists would like to voice their concern about the hostility towards art and culture in our present day political climate.

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Rappaport
Oct 2, 2013

Please don't sign your posts, thank you

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!

vuohi posted:

*every single Finnish feature film in the past 30 years except stuff made by brothers Kaurismäki, Donner, v Bagh and Härö gets erased out of existence*
*absolutely nothing of value was lost*

I have no idea whT this Kosonen incident was but it took almost all year for someone to post something I agree with ITT tin 2015.

DanTheFryingPan
Jan 28, 2006
Poster "vuohi" thinks Mika Kaurismäki makes good movies. Makes you think what else he gets wrong.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe
The only Finnish film in the past 30 years that's worth a drat is Leningrad Cowboys Go America. Y'all know this to be true.

No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

This inkling is your FRIEND
She fights for LOVE

Cerebral Bore posted:

The only Finnish film in the past 30 years that's worth a drat is Leningrad Cowboys Go America. Y'all know this to be true.

Actually, Frank, I prefer Calamari Union.

Rappaport
Oct 2, 2013

vuohi
Nov 22, 2004

DanTheFryingPan posted:

Poster "vuohi" thinks Mika Kaurismäki makes good movies. Makes you think what else he gets wrong.

Look me straight into my... username, and tell me that this isn't great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WWcAVpocnc

SnowblindFatal
Jan 7, 2011

DanTheFryingPan posted:

Poster "vuohi" thinks Mika Kaurismäki makes good movies. Makes you think what else he gets wrong.

A person who hasn't seen Arvottomat

Cerebral Bore posted:

The only Finnish film in the past 30 years that's worth a drat is Leningrad Cowboys Go America. Y'all know this to be true.

A person who has seen only one of Aki's movies.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Cerebral Bore posted:

The only Finnish film in the past 30 years that's worth a drat is Leningrad Cowboys Go America. Y'all know this to be true.

No, you rear end. Raakel Liekin Mun leffa. :colbert:

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope
I was shocked at how good Iron sky actually was. Also to a lesser extent Rare Exports

SnowblindFatal
Jan 7, 2011

Wheany posted:

I was shocked at how good Iron sky actually was. Also to a lesser extent Rare Exports

Iron Sky suffered heavily from a "designed by committee" syndrome imo. The movie didn't have a real edge. Star Wreck was superior.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!

Nenonen posted:

No, you rear end. Raakel Liekin Mun leffa. :colbert:

Why not the seminal "99% runkkukamaa" while we're at it?

Rappaport
Oct 2, 2013

SnowblindFatal posted:

Iron Sky suffered heavily from a "designed by committee" syndrome imo. The movie didn't have a real edge. Star Wreck was superior.

Agreed about the syndrome; the film has a lot of good individual moments, but the over-all product is a jumble.

DanTheFryingPan
Jan 28, 2006

vuohi posted:

Look me straight into my... username, and tell me that this isn't great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WWcAVpocnc

31 years ago, owned.

e: Past glories don't excuse current terrible films.

DanTheFryingPan fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Dec 28, 2015

No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

This inkling is your FRIEND
She fights for LOVE

Jerry Cotton posted:

Why not the seminal "99% runkkukamaa" while we're at it?

You ever wonder why you never hear people talk about Finnish porn?

That's because it's horrid poo poo.

vuohi
Nov 22, 2004

DanTheFryingPan posted:

31 years ago, owned.

e: Past glories don't excuse current terrible films.

I admit that you are technically right.

I also haven't seen all of Mika's films. Or Aki's.

No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

This inkling is your FRIEND
She fights for LOVE
Teuvo Tulio did some nice movies. Like Sensuela. :v:

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!

Rexroom posted:

You ever wonder why you never hear people talk about Finnish porn?

That's because it's horrid poo poo.

Why would the porn be any better than the not-porn :shrug:

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!
I saw "Muijani vietiin joten tapatan joukkueeni" at a cinema and was so dismayed I haven't watched any new Finnish movie since.

E: Do they all still have either Franzen or any number of Vintiös in the lead roles?

Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax

Fish of hemp posted:

Worst:

All the violence related to asylumseekers.

Are you worried and think "worst" because of the few polttopulloguys, or these cases which keep popping up every week (ok those might been tourists, but I doubt...), or because of our police force being overwhelmed by the folks flooding over ruattin border in more ways than just that... like for example by behaving like poo poo when finally here and creating hundreds of extra hälytystehvät, or just all of that in general?

Personally, I find all of it "worst", it just seems from where I am sitting the newcomers are really winning the draw when it comes to actually physically hurting someone, including native locals and each other.

Ligur fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Dec 30, 2015

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010
Probation
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Persus still rape more than immigrants.

Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax
Interesting.

Here is what I think is a pretty good post about the current asylum circus from a certainly non-TF non-racist woman who, despite all of that, makes a lot of the same arguments horrible monsters like me have made and even has bothered to stay tuned with the realities involved.

It would be interesting to see what counter-arguments apart from "gently caress YOU!!!12" those D&D posters who hold on to the idea what we're doing right now "is right/only option" like a last straw, could make against her text (in my case it's just "ur raciste" or "i hope yuo die of CANCAR!"), or what arguments commenters on the site will make trying to shoot down what she wrote.

Which again reminds me: why on Earth is it so important to some portion of the population to think trickling adventrous young men from the crisis-areas surrounding Europe is the only option we have, or why it actually helps with anything (it solves no problems over there; at the same time it creates rather large problems here) and why they insist on yelling every other attempt at a solution is that of a hitler or just impossible because of some treaty they magic up or whatever is the easiest route to take that day.

Oldsmobile
Jun 13, 2006

Ligur posted:

Interesting.

Here is what I think is a pretty good post about the current asylum circus from a certainly non-TF non-racist woman who, despite all of that, makes a lot of the same arguments horrible monsters like me have made and even has bothered to stay tuned with the realities involved.

It would be interesting to see what counter-arguments apart from "gently caress YOU!!!12" those D&D posters who hold on to the idea what we're doing right now "is right/only option" like a last straw, could make against her text (in my case it's just "ur raciste" or "i hope yuo die of CANCAR!"), or what arguments commenters on the site will make trying to shoot down what she wrote.

Which again reminds me: why on Earth is it so important to some portion of the population to think trickling adventrous young men from the crisis-areas surrounding Europe is the only option we have, or why it actually helps with anything (it solves no problems over there; at the same time it creates rather large problems here) and why they insist on yelling every other attempt at a solution is that of a hitler or just impossible because of some treaty they magic up or whatever is the easiest route to take that day.

Oh look, liberal racism.

Fish of hemp
Apr 1, 2011

A friendly little mouse!

quote:

Sillä rahalla, minkä nyt satsaamme turvapaikkaralliin, voisimme auttaa kukaties miljoonaa pakolaisleirillä olevaa.

Well hell I'm all for it. How much more kehitysapu do you think we should give, Ligur?

Or since you are so good at kicking rear end, maybe we should get ourselves to Syria to show those illiterate goat herders how a real Man does war.

Also tell me the best and the worst in 2015.

Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax

Oldsmobile posted:

Oh look, liberal racism.

Heh how fun D&D joke. Snarky, edgy and smug!

Or if you actually think that post is "racist" I don't know what to say, you will probably need to start viewing everything I say or link (or everything someone else says or links similar) through some other lens than a fearsomely raging punaviher emmä vittu ees tiedä. Siinä ei ollut mistään rotuopista sanaakaan, vain siitä, että joidenkin ajatukset tuntuu pyörivän vähän liikaa sellaisen ympärillä mikä ei ole kehittävä tai hyvä asia.

Fish of hemp posted:

Well hell I'm all for it. How much more kehitysapu do you think we should give, Ligur?

Yeah it is a good idea, I've posted about it before, so have various researches I've quoted (and other posters here). Start with funneling all the money we use running on the local asylum circus to kehitsapu for a start. The reason Sweden has trashed many of it's foreign aid programs because they can't afford it because they have to pay insane amounts of money for the processing and upkeep of all the people people who come from - or through - Denmark and Germany. Isn't this common knowledge?

If Sweden, Norway and Denmark would do the same with the right contractors you could build whole cities for asylum seekers near the EU borders. (Of course, said places would probably turn into the same thing the people there originally escaped from if the populations for each were not strictly divided into sunnis, shias, kurqs, you get my drift.)

I hope your view isn't that we should wreck what social services, or the military, or upkeep on infrastructure, any of the things joka olis valden homma hoitaa etc so we can invest it on kehitysapu though. (A joke: the solution is probably "raise taxes from the rich to pay for kehitysapu".) Unlike some people here want to think, our coffers and ability to loan are not bottomless. We should maybe fix our own poo poo with our own tax money first and foremost.

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Or since you are so good at kicking rear end, maybe we should get ourselves to Syria to show those illiterate goat herders how a real Man does war.

Teh edgy D&D poster. Didn't you notice I wasn't even trying to gently caress with or insult you, just asked a question? What the gently caress was the point of this reply to begin with?

quote:

Also tell me the best and the worst in 2015.

Why the gently caress should I since you failed to reply to mine and it was a very, very simple question, but that said, I can't think of anything good or best about 2015...




Jesus gently caress tää paikka, jopa tää ketju vaikka onkin laadukas vs suurin osa muista koska usein hauska, on melkoinen fail jos haluaa "keskustella".

Ligur fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Dec 28, 2015

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

I remember when everyone pat themselves on the back when the previous government increased the annual refugee quota (the only legal mechanism for bringing vulnerable people like children and women to Finland from refugee camps) by 300 to 1050 for 2015, although there was some worry whether there'd be settlement places for them since providing them is voluntary for municipalities.

It's down to 750 for 2016, natch.

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug

Ligur posted:

Heh how fun D&D joke. Snarky, edgy and smug!

Or if you actually think that post is "racist" I don't know what to say, you will probably need to start viewing everything I say or link (or everything someone else says or links similar) through some other lens than a fearsomely raging punaviher emmä vittu ees tiedä. Siinä ei ollut mistään rotuopista sanaakaan, vain siitä, että joidenkin ajatukset tuntuu pyörivän vähän liikaa sellaisen ympärillä mikä ei ole kehittävä tai hyvä asia.


Yeah it is a good idea, I've posted about it before, so have various researches I've quoted (and other posters here). Start with funneling all the money we use running on the local asylum circus to kehitsapu for a start. The reason Sweden has trashed many of it's foreign aid programs because they can't afford it because they have to pay insane amounts of money for the processing and upkeep of all the people people who come from - or through - Denmark and Germany. Isn't this common knowledge?

If Sweden, Norway and Denmark would do the same with the right contractors you could build whole cities for asylum seekers near the EU borders. (Of course, said places would probably turn into the same thing the people there originally escaped from if the populations for each were not strictly divided into sunnis, shias, kurqs, you get my drift.)

I hope your view isn't that we should wreck what social services, or the military, or upkeep on infrastructure, any of the things joka olis valden homma hoitaa etc so we can invest it on kehitysapu though. (A joke: the solution is probably "raise taxes from the rich to pay for kehitysapu".) Unlike some people here want to think, our coffers and ability to loan are not bottomless. We should maybe fix our own poo poo with our own tax money first and foremost.


Teh edgy D&D poster. Didn't you notice I wasn't even trying to gently caress with or insult you, just asked a question? What the gently caress was the point of this reply to begin with?


Why the gently caress should I since you failed to reply to mine and it was a very, very simple question, but that said, I can't think of anything good or best about 2015...




Jesus gently caress tää paikka, jopa tää ketju vaikka onkin laadukas vs suurin osa muista koska usein hauska, on melkoinen fail jos haluaa "keskustella".

miksi sä haluat keskustella ihmisten kanssa

Rappaport
Oct 2, 2013

"ihmisten"

Sayara
May 10, 2009

Antti posted:

I remember when everyone pat themselves on the back when the previous government increased the annual refugee quota (the only legal mechanism for bringing vulnerable people like children and women to Finland from refugee camps) by 300 to 1050 for 2015, although there was some worry whether there'd be settlement places for them since providing them is voluntary for municipalities.

It's down to 750 for 2016, natch.

Sounds about right number of how many vulnerable people like children and women have arrived.

Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax

Antti posted:

I remember when everyone pat themselves on the back when the previous government increased the annual refugee quota (the only legal mechanism for bringing vulnerable people like children and women to Finland from refugee camps) by 300 to 1050 for 2015, although there was some worry whether there'd be settlement places for them since providing them is voluntary for municipalities.

It's down to 750 for 2016, natch.

Mietippä jos meillä olisi jotenkin tolkullinen maahanmuuttopolitiikka, niin se quota voisi olla vaikka 3500 tai 7500. Tiedän toki vasta-argumentin: ei niitä rahoja olis kuitenkaan käytetty mihinkään fiksuun saatika pakolaisiin, vaan rikkaille annettu, maksettu osinkoina! Mutta ei sekään ihan totta ole, että Suomessa kaikki säästöt käytetään pelkästään aina ja noin. Ja kun ei olla kokeiltu ei voi tietää.

Thing is, ne fyffet mitä voisi harkita moiseen pakolaistouhuun käyttävänsä (homma on niin, että kyllä noi quota- ja muut pakolaisrahat otetaan lopulta parin mutkan kautta sittenkin enemmän tai vähemmän samasta kassasta) on menneet mm. siihen, että tänne tulee porukkaa ihan kutsumatta, nyt enemmän kuin koskaan. Jos näin ei olisi, olisi saattanut olla myös politiista tahtoa - ja vielä perusteltavissa miksi, nostaa käsin poimittavien pakolaisten määrää.

Hogge Wild posted:

miksi sä haluat keskustella ihmisten kanssa

Pidän ihmisistä ja on hauska kuulla heidän mielipiteitään, sekä toisinaan edes parin rivin perusteluja niille.

Unohan kato välillä, että täällähän niitä ei juuri saa: joko kysymykseen vastataan kysymyksellä (retorisen penikan "tehokeino") tai ad hominemilla joka ei käy edes sanottuun asiaan vaan usein pelkästään personaan. "Vittu soot iha vammanen ja asperkeri!" Mietityttää pitääkö tämä näin kirjoitteleva väki kuitenkin itseään samalla ihan fiksuina ellei peräti muita parempina.

Epäilen, että joo.

Fushigi Yuugi fansub
Jan 20, 2007

BUTT STUFF
timo vuorensolan elokuvissa ei ole mitään muuta hyvää kuin erikoistehosteet

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 4 hours!

Oldsmobile posted:

Oh look, literal racism.

Fixed that for you.

Oldsmobile
Jun 13, 2006

Jerry Cotton posted:

Fixed that for you.

Thx

throw to first DAMN IT
Apr 10, 2007
This whole thread has been raging at the people who don't want Saracen invasion to their homes

Perhaps you too should be more accepting of their cultures

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme

Sounds about right

vuohi
Nov 22, 2004

vitu awesome ajaa ruotsinlaivalla ja mennä ray:n kasinoon

THE ACE OF SPADES, THE ACE OF SPADES

ALLAN LASSUS
May 11, 2007

apul.prof./ass.prof.

Ligur posted:

tänne tulee porukkaa ihan kutsumatta

Fortress Finland: INVITATION ONLY
(Please note that you must be this white :unsmith: to get invited)

Triple A
Jul 14, 2010

Your sword, sahib.

ALLAN LASSUS posted:

Fortress Finland: INVITATION ONLY
(Please note that you must be this white :unsmith: to get invited)

Finland should start a Foreign Legion.

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Ligur
Sep 6, 2000

by Lowtax

ALLAN LASSUS posted:

Fortress Finland: INVITATION ONLY
(Please note that you must be this white :unsmith: to get invited)

En tiedä missä ihmepöndellä elät, mutta molemmilla "toimistoilla" missä meitsi käy on kyllä sangen kirjavaa väkeä mustasta ruskeaan ja keltaiseen ja kaikkea siltä väliltä. Toi sun läppä on helvetin hölmö uskomus jolla ei ole mitään totuuspohjaa.

Tuu pois sieltä KKK-leiriltä niin tajuat, ettei sillä minkä värisiä ihmisiä tänne lasketaan ole mitään väliä kenellekään paitsi niille jotka polottavat netissä rasismeista aamusta iltaan (jolla ei taas ole minkäänlaista vaikutusta asiaan). Ei jotain bisnestä kiinnosta oletko sininen vai violetti.

Jos osaat jotain mistä osaamisesta täällä on puutetta, olet kyllä tervetullut vaikka olisi iholtaan purppuranvärinen, yksijalkainen muslimilesbo trukkikuksi-insinööri joka kääntyi pastafariksi. Nythän on toki se paska homma ettei oikein ole tarvetta kuin hoitsuille ja lääkäreille ja Suomea puhuville sossutädeille, että tuleehan siinä kielimuuri vastaan. Kun oli vielä teollisuutta jossa riitti, että kymppi ja osa ryhmästä osasi englantia, tai IT-buumi vielä voimissaan niin pärjäsi monella muullakin kielellä...

edit:

Voi hitsi, yksittäistapaus, ne neljä jätkää jotka yritti tappaa sen viidennen Kaisaniemenpuistossa, parin pidellessä kiinni ja yhden tikatessa puukolla syvälle selkään?

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29.12.2015: Tutkinnanjohtaja Heikki Sandbergin mukaan esitutkinnassa on selvinnyt, että puukotuksen uhri oli ollut puistossa myymässä marihuanaa ja epäillyt olivat olleet ostoaikeissa.

Maksusta oli kuitenkin tullut kiistaa ja tilanne oli kärjistynyt puukotukseen.

Kaverien nimet oli Fatimi, Abdul-Hameed, Ramezani ja Hamid, turvapaikanhakijoita joka iikka. Tosin oli uhrikin. Onkohan Fish of Hemp nyt huolestutunut asyylihakijoihin liittyvästä väkivallasta? :O

Ligur fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Dec 29, 2015

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