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DaNzA
Sep 11, 2001

:D
Grimey Drawer

The Management posted:

lmao, I can't believe they did it again. this is a fundamental design flaw of the transmeta nvidia 64-bit arm chips and their dynamic instruction set translation. they must have gotten a hell of a deal on these pieces of poo poo

somehow people still think it can be fixed in software

"My hunch is that the Android team still hasn’t figured out how to take real advantage of all that power out of Nvidia’s silicon"

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Celexi
Nov 25, 2006

Slava Ukraini!
this isn't much of an issue with android but that nvidia arm chips are poo poo

Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003

Celexi posted:

this isn't much of an issue with android but that nvidia arm chips are poo poo

google designs and sells device with 486 sx 25mhz

must be the 486's fault that its so slow

big shtick energy
May 27, 2004


The Management posted:

lmao, I can't believe they did it again. this is a fundamental design flaw of the transmeta nvidia 64-bit arm chips and their dynamic instruction set translation. they must have gotten a hell of a deal on these pieces of poo poo

why would you translate ARMv8 code, it's made to be pretty clean as-is

EDIT: the whitepaper makes it look like a pretty standard 4xA57/4xA53 setup http://international.download.nvidia.com/pdf/tegra/Tegra-X1-whitepaper-v1.0.pdf

big shtick energy fucked around with this message at 06:57 on Dec 10, 2015

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?

DuckConference posted:

why would you translate ARMv8 code, it's made to be pretty clean as-is

EDIT: the whitepaper makes it look like a pretty standard 4xA57/4xA53 setup http://international.download.nvidia.com/pdf/tegra/Tegra-X1-whitepaper-v1.0.pdf

oh poo poo, you're right. nvidia's custom core used to do instruction translation but it looks like they dumped that (because it was so bad) and went with standard arm cores. that was an epic waste of resources.

so it looks like I found the problem:

quote:

Intelligent algorithms analyze workloads presented by the operating system to dynamically switch between the high performance and low performance cores to deliver optimal performance and power efficiency.

they tried this with their stupid companion core back with cortex a9 and it was a miserable failure. they ended up disabling it and always running on the fast cores and burning a ton of power. their big and little cores don't share an L2, so every transition will require a full cache clean and fill. A53/57 don't support hardware migration so they would need to do a full core shutdown and power up. basically their algorithm would try its best not to switch cores because it's a huge perf hit.

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?

DuckConference posted:

why would you translate ARMv8 code, it's made to be pretty clean as-is

the reason they did this is so that they could design a fast in-order core and push the task of instruction reordering and dependency tracking to software. this worked about as well as you imagine

DaNzA
Sep 11, 2001

:D
Grimey Drawer

The Management posted:

lmao, I can't believe they did it again. this is a fundamental design flaw of the transmeta nvidia 64-bit arm chips and their dynamic instruction set translation. they must have gotten a hell of a deal on these pieces of poo poo

looks like they abandoned the denver core so who the gently caress knows why it's stuttering besides being android

The Pixel C is the first device we've come across to run Nvidia's Tegra X1 SoC. The X1 dumps Nvidia's "Denver" CPU and goes with off-the-shelf cores from ARM, so you get a 64-bit 1.9Ghz processor with four high-power Cortex-A57 cores and four low-power Cortex-A53 cores. In benchmarks, it scores about as high as a Snapdragon 810, another chip made with off-the-shelf ARM cores.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong
it's probably the 4+4 core setup with low and high power cores.

iirc several phone manufacturers tried that with their phones back in 2012-2013, found it didn't appreciably improve battery life but did cause performance issues and dropped it from phones that had it for the asian and european markets before they went on sale in the american market

you're pretty much always better off with a single set of cores and them being configured to smoothly clock down as needed, rather then making full jumps between different sets of cores

ufarn
May 30, 2009

quote:

Here’s a map of Google’s insane NY holiday party happening tonight



https://twitter.com/jaredbkeller/status/675012703740633088

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

i wonder how many escorts have been hired for it

big shtick energy
May 27, 2004


fishmech posted:

it's probably the 4+4 core setup with low and high power cores.

iirc several phone manufacturers tried that with their phones back in 2012-2013, found it didn't appreciably improve battery life but did cause performance issues and dropped it from phones that had it for the asian and european markets before they went on sale in the american market

you're pretty much always better off with a single set of cores and them being configured to smoothly clock down as needed, rather then making full jumps between different sets of cores

yeah after doing a deep dive in the big.little shitshow it seems clear that proper dvfs and power gating managed mostly in hardware is the best approach, and big.little is more of a hack to try to get better efficiency from cores that can't manage their power consumption very well

Intel is very good at this, which is one of the bright spots in their mobile nightmare

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003


do they still think the mascot costumes are clever

MrMoo
Sep 14, 2000

Google spellcheck still broken I see.

crusader_complex
Jun 4, 2012
le chine
zen reading room

ufarn
May 30, 2009

prefect posted:

i wonder how many escorts have been hired for it
"all uber for sex workers, please report to eric schmidt's fuckfest penthouse"

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

ufarn posted:

"all uber for sex workers, please report to eric schmidt's fuckfest penthouse"

soundproof fuckfest penthouse

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

computer parts posted:

soundproof fuckfest dungeon

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

f i'm ever unaccountably rich i think i would want to build a dungeon but wouldn't because people would assume it was a sex dungeon and i'd have to always be all "no, it's a normal dungeon, there's no sex in the dungeon" but nobody would believe me. i don't think i could deal with that.

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?
just build two, the sex dungeon and the non-sex dungeon. you don't have to use the former.

Jenny Agutter
Mar 18, 2009

soundproof walls make for good neighbors

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


duTrieux. posted:

f i'm ever unaccountably rich i think i would want to build a dungeon but wouldn't because people would assume it was a sex dungeon and i'd have to always be all "no, it's a normal dungeon, there's no sex in the dungeon" but nobody would believe me. i don't think i could deal with that.

then put them in the loving dungeon.

which you don't use for loving.

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

duTrieux. posted:

f i'm ever unaccountably rich i think i would want to build a dungeon but wouldn't because people would assume it was a sex dungeon and i'd have to always be all "no, it's a normal dungeon, there's no sex in the dungeon" but nobody would believe me. i don't think i could deal with that.

there's no sex in the champagne dungeon.

ufarn
May 30, 2009
please use the proper name, "the disruption dungeon"

Dubstep Jesus
Jun 27, 2012

by exmarx

im the romance room

Share Bear
Apr 27, 2004

duTrieux. posted:

f i'm ever unaccountably rich i think i would want to build a dungeon but wouldn't because people would assume it was a sex dungeon and i'd have to always be all "no, it's a normal dungeon, there's no sex in the dungeon" but nobody would believe me. i don't think i could deal with that.

ufarn
May 30, 2009

Dubstep Jesus posted:

im the romance room
u are the sole female employee in attendance?

MrMoo
Sep 14, 2000

The chirldren's room doesn't look big enough.

Tatsujin
Apr 26, 2004

:golgo:
EVERYONE EXCEPT THE HOT WOMEN
:golgo:

Dubstep Jesus posted:

im the romance room

this was one of the first replies to that tweet lol

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

Tatsujin posted:

this was one of the first replies to that tweet lol



rofl

vodkat
Jun 30, 2012



cannot legally be sold as vodka

Tatsujin posted:

this was one of the first replies to that tweet lol



:getin:

PleasureKevin
Jan 2, 2011

thank you scott

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

google is removing the feature that let you record from a webcam directly to youtube with no processing delay

prepare for the death of lovely reaction vids

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Luigi Thirty posted:

google is removing the feature that let you record from a webcam directly to youtube with no processing delay

prepare for the death of lovely reaction vids

RIP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOn1htjSZic

Asymmetric POSTer
Aug 17, 2005


lol

Wheany
Mar 17, 2006

Spinyahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Doctor Rope

Luigi Thirty posted:

google is removing the feature that let you record from a webcam directly to youtube with no processing delay

prepare for the death of lovely reaction vids

okay, so google isn't all bad

ufarn
May 30, 2009
google are colluding to make pewdiepie a monopoly

PleasureKevin
Jan 2, 2011

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKOdnDDN_5s

4:29

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




5

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?
I was driving today and came to an intersection at the same time as a google self driving car. it had the right of way, but I realized that it will defer if I make a move, so I just went ahead and took his turn. and it's not like there's a driver inside who is getting upset at what a dick I've been, so everybody wins.

The Management fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Dec 29, 2015

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The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?
speaking of which, I saw one the other day create a deadlock by refusing to go over a speed bump until the car in the opposing lane crossed it. but that car was waiting on the car in front of it to turn left, which it could have if the idiot Google car kept driving and let the cars behind it clear the lane.

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