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Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Crush bird dead? No want. No.

It's like so l smoking in bed. You're asking for trouble.

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H110Hawk
Dec 28, 2006
You people know you can lock your cages right? With bird proof locks?

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Bit different for the larger birds who have to spend significant amounts of time out of the cage I would suspect, I cant imagine your average cockatoo would be very happy with being made to go to a place they associate with night time because you want to have a lie down on the sofa or do paperwork or something.

Eejit
Mar 6, 2007

Swiss Army Cockatoo
Cacatua multitoolii

You're overhumanizing the bird. I drowse with my bird in my lap, I don't like nap with him in bed or anything. If I have poo poo to do and I don't want to deal with him, then he goes in the cage. Sometimes he gets mad, most of the time he goes and plays with toys or takes another nap or does...bird things. Usually he can be out, but sometimes bird has to go in cage and deal with it because he's a bird and not a human.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


^ Anthropomorphizing the bird can make it easy to forget to establish rules and boundaries. The grey I was mentioning is in her Terrible 2s, and she has been sppoooiiiiiled like nuts with endless attention and affection. When she started getting bitey, she was totally confused where the discipline she was suddenly receiving fit into her life. She didn't know how to be independent, and it made her feel very insecure and confused to be distanced or caged when in constant chewing and biting and dive-bombing sprees.

She's been a lot happier since being left to feed herself fresh food (holy poo poo does she eat like a queen even now) as opposed to being handfed constantly. She isn't on her owner's shoulder 24/7 anymore. She is back to singing to herself and playing in her cage at dawn and generally being less puberty emo even with better rules in the house.

Edit: I'm drunk and thus a little shitpostey so forgive the rant.

Potato Salad fucked around with this message at 04:40 on Dec 29, 2015

where the red fern gropes
Aug 24, 2011


i like that i only have to sometimes feed the birds and hose their poop

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


What's the public opinion on Upside-Down Land on feeding wild parrots, particularly where they can be considered pests? Are Cockatoos considered pests in large flocks? Do they do any domestic damage?

Pip pip pip
Oct 24, 2010

The cutest little fascist

Our birdsitter just texted me a picture of Nugget chilling on her shoulder :3: Nugget is usually scared to hang out with new people.

She told me she also petsits a gcc that does high pitched peeps that set off the owner's house alarm. The bird talks to the house and the house talks back :stare:

The Narrator
Aug 11, 2011

bernie would have won

Potato Salad posted:

What's the public opinion on Upside-Down Land on feeding wild parrots, particularly where they can be considered pests? Are Cockatoos considered pests in large flocks? Do they do any domestic damage?

On a small scale, we have some cockies that live near my parents' house. My parents often leave out some seed for them. The other day my Mum was livid to see a cockie taking apart one of our beautiful orchids (eating it, I think, as well as being a general turd). Cue mum running outside to reason with a cockatoo who continued to gleefully tear apart the orchid before fleeing the scene :downs:

Big flocks of cockatoos can be a nuisance because they're birbs - think of a huge group of Maxes or Gotchas running wild and wrecking things for fun. Cockatoos in the suburbs or city will tear poo poo up as is their wont - anything made of wood or wires. In rural areas I think the bigger concern is them eating/wrecking crops. Parrot noise can also be a nuisance. I used to live in Port Douglas (up in the tropical North), and every single afternoon we would get flocks of hundreds of lorikeets flying into the main street of town to eat and socialise. The sound was incredible.

edit: from Wikipedia

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

Eejit posted:

You're overhumanizing the bird. I drowse with my bird in my lap, I don't like nap with him in bed or anything. If I have poo poo to do and I don't want to deal with him, then he goes in the cage. Sometimes he gets mad, most of the time he goes and plays with toys or takes another nap or does...bird things. Usually he can be out, but sometimes bird has to go in cage and deal with it because he's a bird and not a human.

We have "bird time" as well. In reality, Ritz is only out of his cage for maybe 3 hours a day. During those 3 hours though he's getting cuddles or hanging out because it's rare for him to be out of his cage and just chill on top or whatever. He's perfectly happy going in and out when we desire, and I'd hate for him to start getting angry when it's time to go back in the cage.

mikerock
Oct 29, 2005

The Narrator posted:

On a small scale, we have some cockies that live near my parents' house. My parents often leave out some seed for them. The other day my Mum was livid to see a cockie taking apart one of our beautiful orchids (eating it, I think, as well as being a general turd). Cue mum running outside to reason with a cockatoo who continued to gleefully tear apart the orchid before fleeing the scene :downs:

Big flocks of cockatoos can be a nuisance because they're birbs - think of a huge group of Maxes or Gotchas running wild and wrecking things for fun. Cockatoos in the suburbs or city will tear poo poo up as is their wont - anything made of wood or wires. In rural areas I think the bigger concern is them eating/wrecking crops. Parrot noise can also be a nuisance. I used to live in Port Douglas (up in the tropical North), and every single afternoon we would get flocks of hundreds of lorikeets flying into the main street of town to eat and socialise. The sound was incredible.

edit: from Wikipedia



The Cockatoo flocks demolish my Uncle's fruit crops near Cairns. There were a few bad cyclones a few years back which wiped out a lot of food sources and the local birds turned to farmer's crops.

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
I went away for 3 days and I come home to find my mum had been dumping dirty water into the cage trays and they both had a layer of mould across both of them where the birds had dropped food :stare:

Thanks mum




Potato Salad posted:

What's the public opinion on Upside-Down Land on feeding wild parrots, particularly where they can be considered pests? Are Cockatoos considered pests in large flocks? Do they do any domestic damage?

The bigger birds like to chew and destroy stuff, mostly plants. The rest are alright although if they don't eat it all, mice come, and the snakes soon follow.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
I told my mother about Gaston and she reacted with horror and "why would you encourage that by feeding him?!" My mother is a bit funny about wild Australian animals, as their was a traumatic childhood incident involving a kangaroo and a small yappy dog (although not so traumatized as to not gently caress off back home when the weather gets bad in the UK though). Kangaroos are total dicks and Skippy the Bush Kangaroo is a lie.

Matoi Ryuko
Jan 6, 2004


1500
Nov 3, 2015

Give me all your crackers

Potato Salad posted:

I spent all day with an African Gray that my SO spent a lot of time with a few years ago. The owner is a professional raptor rehabilitator who hand raised her. She is two years old.

They took us out to dinner and asked if we wanted first right of refusal in their will. They are elderly.

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. In getting a cockatiel this spring, and now this prospect too.

You should do it, if you have the time to devote to it. Also the initial cost would not be that much, as the Grey would come with cage and everything else. I have found that Grey's do not go through toys as fast as others, so that cost is low. But they do require a lot of attention, or they will get aggressive, and load.


Just to warn you(people in general), you will get bitten, but for what ever reason, bird bites heal really well. When I have some time, I need to upload Bonny's new game, she like to wrestle now (with her taking my finger into her beak to play fight). Bonny's beak is much larger then a Greys, over time you will get used to a birds beak size, and you will get conferrable with it. My wife always said that Bonny would be my bird (she was scared at first), but now she also full on wrestles with Bonny.

As your bond forms, you will better understand when and why a bird bites. That being said, its very hard to read a grey.

1500 fucked around with this message at 09:54 on Dec 29, 2015

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug

Potato Salad posted:

What's the public opinion on Upside-Down Land on feeding wild parrots, particularly where they can be considered pests? Are Cockatoos considered pests in large flocks? Do they do any domestic damage?

I get galahs, corellas, western rignnecks, rainbow lorikeets and black cockatoos in the suburb (and one very lost Indian Ringneck). So far we've only managed to attract the galahs and the lonely indian ringneck that hangs out with them to the yard. I plan on getting a proper feeder and maybe a bird bath set up to see if I can get more birds in the yard. Magpies and ravens also turn up, if you are bold and patient enough you can hand feed the magpies.

Opinion on feeding them seems to be a bit split, I know a lot of people who will leave out a plate of seed or will have a local flock of magpies that rock up to get a feed, and plenty of people who are all "no its not natural, don't interact with nature!".

If you hop online though, you can find all sorts of material on how to attract native birds to your yard, and what to feed them and keep them healthy. I think some of it has been published by the CSIRO (our government funded science and research department).



I won't feed the rainbow lorikeets though, as they are an endemic pest in Western Australia.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
I vaguely remember a story many moons ago about a guy in New Zealand being busted for illegally breeding rainbow lorikeets, and as the police kicked in his front door and failed to go round the back he was able to get to his aviary and released a load of breeding pairs out into the wild. Last I heard NZ's rainbow lori population had gone from 0 to hundreds that are displacing the local birds and it's all because of this one guy.

edit: Also sorry about the bramble bushes chaps, same thing happened there, some idiot expat missed his blackberry jam and brought one bush over and what happened next is obvious.

learnincurve fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Dec 29, 2015

Tendai
Mar 16, 2007

"When the eagles are silent, the parrots begin to jabber."

Grimey Drawer
MADNESS.

:3:

Trebuchet King
Jul 5, 2005

This post...

...is a
WORK OF FICTION!!



1500 posted:

You should do it, if you have the time to devote to it. Also the initial cost would not be that much, as the Grey would come with cage and everything else. I have found that Grey's do not go through toys as fast as others, so that cost is low. But they do require a lot of attention, or they will get aggressive, and load.


Just to warn you(people in general), you will get bitten, but for what ever reason, bird bites heal really well. When I have some time, I need to upload Bonny's new game, she like to wrestle now (with her taking my finger into her beak to play fight). Bonny's beak is much larger then a Greys, over time you will get used to a birds beak size, and you will get conferrable with it. My wife always said that Bonny would be my bird (she was scared at first), but now she also full on wrestles with Bonny.

As your bond forms, you will better understand when and why a bird bites. That being said, its very hard to read a grey.

Yeah, it's been about a year since I first babysat Connie, I want to say--and reading her is still tricky at times. Last weekend, though, she did a non-rescue step up, which was nice. To clarify: if she ends up on the floor or makes her way down to the galley she'll graciously let me rescue her by stepping up on my hand so I can put her back atop her cage, but usually if she's already on her cage she shuffles away from my extremities.

Grraarrgghh
Feb 12, 2012

"Bernard, float over here so I can punch you."


Hello bird nerds, long time no post.

Have a video of Albert whistling slightly more poorly than I do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6Paan9SaI4

Shark Sandwich
Sep 6, 2010

by R. Guyovich
Charlie started saying "It's okay" whenever the tiels make nervous warks or do the frantic contact call. I know it's just because I say that but it's almost like he only sort of wants to murder them.

Forsythia
Jan 28, 2007

You want bad advice?

Anything is okay if you don't get caught!

... I hope this helps!

Grraarrgghh posted:

Have a video of Albert whistling slightly more poorly than I do.

Love those head bobs.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

learnincurve posted:

I told my mother about Gaston and she reacted with horror and "why would you encourage that by feeding him?!" My mother is a bit funny about wild Australian animals, as their was a traumatic childhood incident involving a kangaroo and a small yappy dog (although not so traumatized as to not gently caress off back home when the weather gets bad in the UK though). Kangaroos are total dicks and Skippy the Bush Kangaroo is a lie.

Here's your basic rundown on some of the more beloved cute and cuddly Australian wildlife;

Kangaroos - steroid muscle jocks. When they fight, they wrestle and it often ends in sleeper-holding the loser out. Piss one off enough and they'll kick your kidneys out your back.

Wombats - Waddling tanks. Look cute and cuddly, right up until they're angry. After that, the official recommended procedure is to get the gently caress off ground-level, or they will smash your ankles to knock you down and then you're really hosed.

Platypus - Nature's cruel joke with a punchline; They're poisonous. They have a neurotoxic sting that stays in your system for weeks and feels like your body's on fire. There's also no known cure for it.

Pelicans - Thieving bastards that will go for anything up to and including small children if they can get away with it. And they drat-well believe they can get away with anything.

Magpies - nui-AAARRRCK-sance little fuc-AAAAARCK-ers prone to swooping peo-AAARCCCK-ple for going near where they want to live. Or just screaming out-AAARCK-side your window in a tree at 5-o'-AAAAARCK-clock in the morning.

Kookaburra - Laughs like a lunatic, hunts like a serial killer. They eat other birds, and are quite patient little devils too when it comes to getting a meal.

Sekkira
Apr 11, 2008

I Don't Get It,
I Don't Get It,

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Magpies - nui-AAARRRCK-sance little fuc-AAAAARCK-ers prone to swooping peo-AAARCCCK-ple for going near where they want to live. Or just screaming out-AAARCK-side your window in a tree at 5-o'-AAAAARCK-clock in the morning.

That's not actually a magpie.

CROWS EVERYWHERE
Dec 17, 2012

CAW CAW CAW

Dinosaur Gum
Today marks the first day that Toast bit hard enough to draw blood! :toot: He took a little chunk out of my left ring finger when I tried to stop him from prising keys off my keyboard. I tried to take a photo but my phone is being temperamental (I blame it being an older model iPhone trying to deal with the latest update). I also got a little bit of blood on my mum's nice clean chair covers just as we are waiting for my grandparents to turn up for their New Year visit :v:

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Platypus - Nature's cruel joke with a punchline; They're poisonous. They have a neurotoxic sting that stays in your system for weeks and feels like your body's on fire. There's also no known cure for it.

Venomous :science:

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Pelicans - Thieving bastards that will go for anything up to and including small children if they can get away with it. And they drat-well believe they can get away with anything.

I got attacked by a pelican when I was about 4, as my dad told me a pelican at the zoo was a statue (it was standing very still) and to go up and have a closer look. Pelicans are jerks.


Neddy Seagoon posted:

Magpies - nui-AAARRRCK-sance little fuc-AAAAARCK-ers prone to swooping peo-AAARCCCK-ple for going near where they want to live. Or just screaming out-AAARCK-side your window in a tree at 5-o'-AAAAARCK-clock in the morning.

Magpies are great. They only attack people they hate. You can earn their trust and they will become your friends and protect you from all those neighborhood kids constantly on your lawn.

CROWS EVERYWHERE
Dec 17, 2012

CAW CAW CAW

Dinosaur Gum

GoldStandardConure posted:



I got attacked by a pelican when I was about 4, as my dad told me a pelican at the zoo was a statue (it was standing very still) and to go up and have a closer look. Pelicans are jerks.



Video evidence that pelicans are evil and a reminder you should always obey the DON'T FEED THE PELICAN signs. (:nms: if you like pigeons.)

If I recall pelicans are eating more smaller birds as a result of overfishing depleting their regular fish supply. So it would seem man is the real monster in this situation. :smith:

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Dammit, I usually get that right :cripes:.


GoldStandardConure posted:

I got attacked by a pelican when I was about 4, as my dad told me a pelican at the zoo was a statue (it was standing very still) and to go up and have a closer look. Pelicans are jerks.

I've been told that when I was two a pelican decided I was lunch and tried to eat me in my stroller.

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

Neddy Seagoon posted:

Here's your basic rundown on some of the more beloved cute and cuddly Australian wildlife;

Kangaroos - steroid muscle jocks. When they fight, they wrestle and it often ends in sleeper-holding the loser out. Piss one off enough and they'll kick your kidneys out your back.

Wombats - Waddling tanks. Look cute and cuddly, right up until they're angry. After that, the official recommended procedure is to get the gently caress off ground-level, or they will smash your ankles to knock you down and then you're really hosed.

If you are driving in a car in the australian outback you have to watch out for kangaroos, because they will jump across the road and slam into your car, and its not fun to hit something that big going 110kph. They also have a habit of bouncing, and will usually end up going through your windscreen.

Truck drivers dont really worry about that, because they are up high enough and have enough mass behind them that the kangaroo will just end up bouncing off. They worry more about wombats, because those dense fuckers can flip a road train if they arent careful.

Sekkira
Apr 11, 2008

I Don't Get It,
I Don't Get It,

GoldStandardConure posted:

as my dad told me a pelican at the zoo was a statue

We all know who the real jerk is.

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
Wombats are the real life version of the pokemon geodude. Living boulders.

CROWS EVERYWHERE
Dec 17, 2012

CAW CAW CAW

Dinosaur Gum

Frogmanv2 posted:

If you are driving in a car in the australian outback you have to watch out for kangaroos, because they will jump across the road and slam into your car, and its not fun to hit something that big going 110kph. They also have a habit of bouncing, and will usually end up going through your windscreen.

Truck drivers dont really worry about that, because they are up high enough and have enough mass behind them that the kangaroo will just end up bouncing off. They worry more about wombats, because those dense fuckers can flip a road train if they arent careful.

Kangaroos are also most active at dawn and dusk along empty dark roads, and will stand still for ages until a car comes along - then they'll leap out in front of it in a desperate attempt to get themselves killed. They'll even zig-zag back and forth in front of the car to maximise their getting-squashed potential (which also happens to be their "wrecking the poo poo out of your car" potential).

It makes a lot more sense when you imagine they're trying to avoid getting hit by a spear or boomerang, but shockingly isn't a great evasive manoeuvre when they're up against a car.

Also they murder people who try to break up their boxing matches by kicking them with their big-rear end legs and breaking their spine.

Here is a picture from the security cameras at my Dad's block of two Eastern grey kangaroos (the smaller, cuter ones) hugging:

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug
Seeing as this is now kangaroo chat:

They aren't total bastards all the time (just mostly). My mum was out doing some photography and one just wandered on over and decided to make sure everything was in order:



He just stood around next to my mum like that for a good 10 or 20 minutes before just casually strolling away.

(pls dont dox my mum)

LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

GoldStandardConure posted:

Seeing as this is now kangaroo chat:

They aren't total bastards all the time (just mostly). My mum was out doing some photography and one just wandered on over and decided to make sure everything was in order:



He just stood around next to my mum like that for a good 10 or 20 minutes before just casually strolling away.

(pls dont dox my mum)

hahaha that's so cute :3:

CROWS EVERYWHERE
Dec 17, 2012

CAW CAW CAW

Dinosaur Gum

GoldStandardConure posted:

Seeing as this is now kangaroo chat:

They aren't total bastards all the time (just mostly). My mum was out doing some photography and one just wandered on over and decided to make sure everything was in order:



He just stood around next to my mum like that for a good 10 or 20 minutes before just casually strolling away.

(pls dont dox my mum)

A good roo :kimchi:

Wallabies are cute and at some tourist spots and most zoos have been tamed to eat food from your hand :3: They're like kangaroos only travel-sized and less full of stupid murderous rage.

Wrecking Ball
Jul 16, 2011
Ugh, having a hard time falling asleep tonight. All of a sudden my bed starts shaking around and I hear some crash in the other room. Some quick googling, had a mild earthquake. The birds freaked the gently caress out (their cage moving probably jarred them out of their sleep :( )

I hate earthquakes. Here in Vancouver we are always awaiting "the big one"...

1500
Nov 3, 2015

Give me all your crackers
Well to step outside the box for a sec,

This is an interesting site, with some cool information on owning a parrot (45 Life-Hacks for Parrot Owners)

https://studentswithbirds.wordpress.com/2014/03/03/life-hacks-for-parrot-owners/


Edit: Some features to think about in that wood aviary.

1500 fucked around with this message at 10:26 on Dec 30, 2015

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug
this parrots life has been hacked:

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Don't forget koala. Those little fuckers will try to rip your face off if they are jonesing for their eucalyptus fix and most of them have chlamydia. One of the funniest koala stories is when One Direction were holding one at the zoo and it pissed all over them, so they all had to go get tested and go on antibiotics as a precaution.

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Zakrello
Feb 17, 2015

missile imbound

GoldStandardConure posted:

this parrots life has been hacked:



someone feed him a finger

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