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Luigi Thirty posted:Did that already. "That's totally different, he took the orange tip off and was pointing them at people in a loving park. Someone called it in as an active shooter, what the gently caress were they supposed to do, let him shoot people?" Show him this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf5TEoo-EY0
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Luigi Thirty posted:Did that already. "That's totally different, he took the orange tip off and was pointing them at people in a loving park. Someone called it in as an active shooter, what the gently caress were they supposed to do, let him shoot people?" "Look, even a grand jury didn't see there as being enough evidence to prosecute. Who are you to argue?"
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mandatory lesbian posted:the dad will just say that he taught you right and not to do that and say that if tamir had had a good father he wouldn't be dead. trust me i know, it doesnt matter what the facts are Oh yeah he did that too plus a rousing round of "they needed some loving parents"
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Luigi Thirty posted:My dad still doesn't think the cops did anything wrong. He called him a "thug playing thug games in the park" and said that the police always assume it's a real gun and were justified in lighting him up. In the meantime white kids are buying up realistic airsoft replicas for outdoor wargames. Damned if I can figure out where they draw the line
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Jealous Cow posted:I spent the entire day trying to get a drivers license and register my car in a new state and I can't agree more. It was the most Kafkaesque experience I've ever had, and I still have to visit two different state offices tomorrow (after waiting in line for hours at three different locations today). What state? I have my guesses.
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Gravel Gravy posted:In the meantime white kids are buying up realistic airsoft replicas for outdoor wargames. My cousin straight imported those things from Japan, and he got them without the, "lovely orange tip". They are quite good mock ups. He doesn't care if that's illegal, he's rich. Even Tamir's family knew there would be no indictment, but still the prosecutor has to get in a jab at them to really make clear to certain Clevelanders to know their place.
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What's really disgusting is that you can literally find an example of a white person doing the same thing and being alive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE059hTqPJU Also the orange tip on airsoft guns isn't required by law anywhere except maybe California. Don't have to import from Japan, just buy from Atlanta or Cali or something. $150 gets you a super realistic looking M4. We got the cops called on us a couple of times playing at my local field, but because we're white and covered in camo they just thought we were the local militia.
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Dec 29, 2015 18:18
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We used to take those (no orange tips) to high school and use them in the parking lot, and that was post columbine. Being white yo.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Oh yeah he did that too plus a rousing round of "they needed some loving parents" From the picture thread: BUBBA GAY DUDLEY posted:Not really the same. Now if, say, a bunch of grown men and women pointed actual guns at federal agents
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Dec 29, 2015 18:22
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SquadronROE posted:What's really disgusting is that you can literally find an example of a white person doing the same thing and being alive: Yeah, but he didn't have to purchase most of them so he bilked his folks for 'em.  For whatever reason in the present, he's never purchased actual firearms, though.
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Gravel Gravy posted:In the meantime white kids are buying up realistic airsoft replicas for outdoor wargames. I dunno, seems pretty black and white to me.
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Dec 29, 2015 18:25
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Evil Fluffy posted:Why do people flee to Mexico, do they think Mexico doesn't work with the US to find and send back fugitives who don't get themselves killed first? I'm going to say literally because of movies since that's what people do in Westerns after they rob the Wells Fargo stage coach they hide out in Mexico
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Epic High Five posted:"No but you see if they touch anything pig or pig related they are forever condemned to hell so I'm really showing them up, you've gotta know the enemy ya know" "We area Judeo-Christian nation that loves Christians and Jews" *sticks pork everywhere* "gently caress you, Semites!"
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DrProsek posted:*sticks pork everywhere*
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Luigi Thirty posted:Oh yeah he did that too plus a rousing round of "they needed some loving parents" Sever. Let his racism leave him alone and unloved on his deathbed.
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Dec 29, 2015 18:43
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You don't even have to point to white kids playing with toy guns, white people who did literal mass shootings like James Holmes and Dylann Roof were not instantly gunned down by police, but instead taken alive.
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Swan Oat posted:You don't even have to point to white kids playing with toy guns, white people who did literal mass shootings like James Holmes and Dylann Roof were not instantly gunned down by police, but instead taken alive. Those were troubled kids, with troubled homes, with no hope in Obama's America.
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White guys walk into department with loaded pellet guns and start shooting at people, police take them alive. Black man picks up a pellet gun the store is selling, carries it with him while shopping, gets shot by police.Swan Oat posted:You don't even have to point to white kids playing with toy guns, white people who did literal mass shootings like James Holmes and Dylann Roof were not instantly gunned down by police, but instead taken alive. Hard to make direct comparisons because black people aren't usually behind mass shootings. Push El Burrito fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Dec 29, 2015 |
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Serious question: is there any purpose to a grand jury beyond attempting to deflect blame from a prosecutor for making a controversial decision on whether to charge someone?
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Shageletic posted:Here's an interesting bit about Part 3 Positive change has to start somewhere and I don't think relying on the Justice Department is going to be enough; there are just too many of these shootings every year and they seem to be increasing in number. I honestly believe that requiring, or at least setting a goal of, police departments reflecting the racial makeup of the communities they serve would be a huge positive step. The problem is that it would require active recruitment of minority officers. Just relying on voluntary applicants has only exacerbated the problem in most communities. I still go back to training and yearly retraining of officers in non-lethal response methods as the proposal most likely to be adopted and implemented. It would also be helpful if a federal task force or investigative body was established to actually study police shootings and come up with ideas on how to improve things; not for prosecution purposes but, just to figure out why they happen and how to help prevent them.
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KomradeX posted:I'm going to say literally because of movies since that's what people do in Westerns after they rob the Wells Fargo stage coach they hide out in Mexico Every country in the western hemisphere has an extradition treaty with the US, so Mexico is only good for passing through to somewhere else. If you're gonna go on the lam, southeast Asia or one of the more stable former Iron Curtain countries is your best bet, and even still they can send you back if the US makes a big enough stink.
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Serious question: is there any purpose to a grand jury beyond attempting to deflect blame from a prosecutor for making a controversial decision on whether to charge someone? The idea is to prevent the State from wasting resources pursuing a case that it can't win. The flaw is that prosecutors are not required to present the best case possible to the Grand Jury.
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Serious question: is there any purpose to a grand jury beyond attempting to deflect blame from a prosecutor for making a controversial decision on whether to charge someone? The purpose is to determine if there is enough evidence for the prosecutor to proceed to an actual criminal trial and to protect the identity of the defendant in the case that it doesn't. The fact that they are being used by these prosecutors to say "hey it's not ME that's letting this cop off, it's THE SYSTEM" when they are in almost total control of the grand jury and its preceding is them relying on the ignorance of the populace and to give credibility to their decision to not go after the cop.
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Evil Fluffy posted:
The funny thing is police wouldn't have arrived. Investigators have said while they're aware of the video they had yet to determine if that is definitely him, so technically he hadn't yet violated his probation. But not meeting his probation officer and skipping the country, however, absolutely did violate his probation. 
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comes along bort posted:Every country in the western hemisphere has an extradition treaty with the US, so Mexico is only good for passing through to somewhere else. If you're rich, step one is to become a French citizen. Step two, after making some snooty movies and raping a teenager, flee to France.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Why do people flee to Mexico, do they think Mexico doesn't work with the US to find and send back fugitives who don't get themselves killed first? Fun fact: even if Mexico didn't work with the US, it's also totally legal for the US to just straight up kidnap anyone it wants anywhere in the world and put them on trial, no questions asked! 
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Larry Summers responds to Bernie Sanders article on reforming the fed, and is surprisingly positive http://larrysummers.com/2015/12/29/5782/
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Combed Thunderclap posted:Fun fact: even if Mexico didn't work with the US, it's also totally legal for the US to just straight up kidnap anyone it wants anywhere in the world and put them on trial, no questions asked! Basically unless you flee to Russia or a similar country where there's little if any possibility of the US conducting a successful extraction op, if they want you they're going to get you.
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Talmonis posted:If you're rich, step one is to become a French citizen. Step two, after making some snooty movies and raping a teenager, flee to France. Hold up, we're calling Chinatown snooty?
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theblackw0lf posted:Larry Summers responds to Bernie Sanders article on reforming the fed, and is surprisingly positive Nooooooooo
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The Warszawa posted:Hold up, we're calling Chinatown snooty? Forget it warsz. It's USPol.
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Gravel Gravy posted:Forget it warsz. It's USPol. Please do not steal my jokes as I come in to post them.
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Berke Negri posted:Please do not steal my jokes as I come in to post them. You've just been gravyed.
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Gravel Gravy posted:You've just been gravyed. A shameful Berke
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Radbot posted:Why bother, dude hates black people and is just looking for a veneer. Ding ding ding!
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The Warszawa posted:Hold up, we're calling Chinatown snooty? I was more thinking his prior work, (Quoi?, Knife in the Water) and things like The Pianist.
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Radish posted:The purpose is to determine if there is enough evidence for the prosecutor to proceed to an actual criminal trial and to protect the identity of the defendant in the case that it doesn't. The fact that they are being used by these prosecutors to say "hey it's not ME that's letting this cop off, it's THE SYSTEM" when they are in almost total control of the grand jury and its preceding is them relying on the ignorance of the populace and to give credibility to their decision to not go after the cop. I'm just glad the legal profession has such strict and high standards of ethics and conduct. That prosecutor will probably win prosecutor of the year, something he definitely deserves, because he totally didn't shirk his duty.
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Protests starting in Cleveland it seems. Traffic is being blocked down from the major N/S downtown street  /e- Actually shoreway is just blocked from 9th but I have no idea why. Submarine Sandpaper fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Dec 29, 2015 |
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gently caress. I work downtown tonight. At least its just the shoreway so far. It's worthless now that they've lowered the speed limit.
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