Fallout 4 Modding: falling out of love with this game

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Anime Schoolgirl: Nov 28, 2002

Capn Beeb posted:

Speaking of Skyrim, kinda odd that Fallout 4 got rid of the whole equipped weapons displaying on your character thing. That was neat.

they probably did it because the clipboard was a shield mount for the vault tec salesman

i wouldn't put it past them to take away a pretty crucial function just to hide that thing

# ? Dec 29, 2015 22:41

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Segmentation Fault: Jun 7, 2012

Anime Schoolgirl posted:

they probably did it because the clipboard was a shield mount for the vault tec salesman

i wouldn't put it past them to take away a pretty crucial function just to hide that thing

Why not just make the clipboard a weapon? what the gently caress

# ? Dec 29, 2015 22:43

Magmarashi: May 20, 2009

NickPancakes posted:

Ugh Armorsmith. I'll keep from updating for now, but is there a similar mod sans the creepy feature creep?

Yeah, it's called 'Use Armorsmith and then don't make the nudity rings at the crafting bench and you'll never even know they exist'

This poo poo is hardly end-of-the-mod levels of feature creep, here. I went the last 3 versions without even noticing the new workbench it added, get a grip.

# ? Dec 29, 2015 22:47

WastedJoker: Oct 29, 2011; Fiery the angels fell. Deep thunder rolled around their shoulders... burning with the fires of Orc.

Is there a mod that lets me completely remove everything in a settlement area?

# ? Dec 29, 2015 22:49

Talkie Toaster: Jan 23, 2006; May contain carcinogens

greatBigJerk posted:

From what I've heard, speaking out against that poo poo on the Nexus forums is like an insta-ban, while getting into weird flame wars on whether or not mods are lore friendly are totally fine, even when there's clearly no intent for the mod to be lore friendly.

It really is. I got a warning back in the day from speaking out about a mod adding leather microbikinis for children. At least they removed it a week later, but... jesus.

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# ? Dec 29, 2015 22:54

flatluigi: Apr 23, 2008; here come the planes

Magmarashi posted:

Yeah, it's called 'Use Armorsmith and then don't make the nudity rings at the crafting bench and you'll never even know they exist'

This poo poo is hardly end-of-the-mod levels of feature creep, here. I went the last 3 versions without even noticing the new workbench it added, get a grip.

They added in a nude mod into a completely unrelated mod, saying it's fine because it's ignorable is silly

# ? Dec 29, 2015 22:58

Magmarashi: May 20, 2009

flatluigi posted:

They added in a nude mod into a completely unrelated mod, saying it's fine because it's ignorable is silly

It's dumb, but it IS completely, 100% ignorable. You'd never ever know it was there at all, it is the wateriest loving feature creep I've ever seen and people are acting like it's a loving disaster, lol.

# ? Dec 29, 2015 23:00

Azhais: Feb 5, 2007; Switchblade Switcharoo

greatBigJerk posted:

Is it because of CBBE that there's an absurd amount of creepy rear end nude mods drowning out actual non-creepy mods?

I usually try to find new mods by looking at the most endorsed new files over the past few days, but it's really hard to do that when every other mods is something like "sexy tamed bush" or "huge boobs bodyslide preset"...

I know bitching about nude mods is all the rage, but it is in your power to solve this problem

# ? Dec 29, 2015 23:02

LumberingTroll: Sep 9, 2007; Really it's not because
I don't like you...

About Armorsmith Extended, you guys need to get a grip, its a ring that you equip on your companions that makes them take off their clothes, that's all. It doesn't add nude textures or anything.

# ? Dec 29, 2015 23:05

flatluigi: Apr 23, 2008; here come the planes

Magmarashi posted:

It's dumb, but it IS completely, 100% ignorable. You'd never ever know it was there at all, it is the wateriest loving feature creep I've ever seen and people are acting like it's a loving disaster, lol.

Dude do you really think people are complaining about the nude mod because it's feature creep and not because it's, you know, a nude mod?

# ? Dec 29, 2015 23:05

jred250: Sep 7, 2003; F Zero Novice

flatluigi posted:

Dude do you really think people are complaining about the nude mod because it's feature creep and not because it's, you know, a nude mod?

People were already complaining about the Armorsmith feature creep before the nude rings, the nude rings just brought the criticism to a fever pitch.

# ? Dec 29, 2015 23:11

NickPancakes: Oct 27, 2004; Damnit, somebody get me a tissue.

Magmarashi posted:

It's dumb, but it IS completely, 100% ignorable. You'd never ever know it was there at all, it is the wateriest loving feature creep I've ever seen and people are acting like it's a loving disaster, lol.

You're manufacturing outrage out of a collective sigh from a group of people who see this crap out of nexus too often.

Of course it's not a "loving disaster", but it's exactly the sort of dumb creep the nexus community tends to breed. Why wouldn't the author just make this ring into it's own mod, it seems to make entirely more sense that way.

# ? Dec 29, 2015 23:12

Arc Hammer: Mar 4, 2013; Got any deathsticks?

All the ring does is allow you to take off the companion's default clothing without also putting another outfit into their inventory and equipping it instead. So you can just grab piper's coat instead of plopping her in something else first.

# ? Dec 29, 2015 23:20

Azhais: Feb 5, 2007; Switchblade Switcharoo

Arcsquad12 posted:

All the ring does is allow you to take off the companion's default clothing without also putting another outfit into their inventory and equipping it instead. So you can just grab piper's coat instead of plopping her in something else first.

Equip a ring, equip one of the hundreds of raider leathers you've got laying around, either way you have to hit T once to accomplish that task without needing to call it a nuding ring.

Does the ring actually remove clothing or does it just make it all invisible?

# ? Dec 29, 2015 23:23

Gobblecoque: Sep 6, 2011

NickPancakes posted:

You're manufacturing outrage out of a collective sigh from a group of people who see this crap out of nexus too often.

Of course it's not a "loving disaster", but it's exactly the sort of dumb creep the nexus community tends to breed. Why wouldn't the author just make this ring into it's own mod, it seems to make entirely more sense that way.

It's almost a given that whenever there's a handful of posts saying "this is dumb" that other posters will fall over themselves to say that it's a tidal wave of mouth-frothing rage. It's really helpful in letting you know who to add to your ignore list, God bless their hearts.

# ? Dec 29, 2015 23:29

greatBigJerk: Sep 6, 2010; My final form.

Azhais posted:

I know bitching about nude mods is all the rage, but it is in your power to solve this problem

I did that as soon as I saw a giant vagina on the Nexus frontpage. It does get rid of the worst offenders, but it doesn't eliminate all of the creepy CBBE poo poo people are making.

# ? Dec 30, 2015 00:42

Kea: Oct 5, 2007

WastedJoker posted:

Is there a mod that lets me completely remove everything in a settlement area?

Console command /scrapall. If you mean buildings and unscrappable stuff there is some work towards that but a pretty major bug causes cell resets on anything that touches cells directly. One modder found an INI workaround but it is apparently really really heavy.

# ? Dec 30, 2015 00:54

SplitSoul: Dec 31, 2000

Afro Mod

# ? Dec 30, 2015 01:10

cheesetriangles: Jan 5, 2011

Is the OP guide to modding still correct/up to date? I want to start modding but don't want to read all 60 pages.

# ? Dec 30, 2015 01:29

waffles beyond waffles: Jun 22, 2008; Oh, what a day...
What a lovely day!

Gonkish posted:

Crossposting from the main thread. CBBE may be stupid and dumb and bad, but there's still stuff like this to balance it out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP8WHVWDH_s

This is amazing.

FFS most of the "feature creep" in Armorsmith Extended is optional compatibility patches that let you craft the armor instead of using console commands or the chemistry station. Relax.

# ? Dec 30, 2015 04:44

Magmarashi: May 20, 2009

gromdul posted:

This is amazing.

FFS most of the "feature creep" in Armorsmith Extended is optional compatibility patches that let you craft the armor instead of using console commands or the chemistry station. Relax.

Crafting armor and outfit manipulation tools: Verboten feature creep in an armor crafting mod.

# ? Dec 30, 2015 05:33

Fidel Cuckstro: Jul 2, 2007

So is something like this texture optimist worthwhile?

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/m...78%26gid%3D1151

I haven't noticed any real problems on my end, except maybe a bit of lag coming from my over-sized settlements. Still, if I can reduce some useless resource useage, that's a good thing right?

# ? Dec 30, 2015 06:15

LumberingTroll: Sep 9, 2007; Really it's not because
I don't like you...

Slime Bro Helpdesk posted:

So is something like this texture optimist worthwhile?

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/m...78%26gid%3D1151

I haven't noticed any real problems on my end, except maybe a bit of lag coming from my over-sized settlements. Still, if I can reduce some useless resource useage, that's a good thing right?

You are better off using the dynamic shadow boost.

# ? Dec 30, 2015 06:31

CJacobs: Apr 17, 2011; Reach for the moon!

Gobblecoque posted:

It's almost a given that whenever there's a handful of posts saying "this is dumb" that other posters will fall over themselves to say that it's a tidal wave of mouth-frothing rage. It's really helpful in letting you know who to add to your ignore list, God bless their hearts.

It's hard not to make fun of people who don't do their research and then complain about an issue that literally does not exist

# ? Dec 30, 2015 07:15

Swedish Thaumocracy: Jul 11, 2006; Strength of >800 Men
Honor of 0; Grimey Drawer

Slime Bro Helpdesk posted:

So is something like this texture optimist worthwhile?

Just a heads up; That was one of the first mods I downloaded because optimization is always good, right?
Consequently I thought nothing of my minute long loadtimes until someone pointed out to me that they had gotten the same mod and uninstalled it because of massive loadtime inflation.
Imagine my surprise when I turn it off and can now enter or exit interiors in five flat seconds instead.

So, yeah. Maybe worth it if you have an SSD, but several extra gigs of textures that have to be constantly loaded do not a happy game make.

Dynamic shadow boost on the other hand, as someone pointed out, is awesome.

# ? Dec 30, 2015 09:36

Owl Inspector: Sep 14, 2011

Slime Bro Helpdesk posted:

So is something like this texture optimist worthwhile?

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/m...78%26gid%3D1151

I haven't noticed any real problems on my end, except maybe a bit of lag coming from my over-sized settlements. Still, if I can reduce some useless resource useage, that's a good thing right?

These mods have less collateral damage, fewer bugs and are less work to install

http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1204/
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/1355/

# ? Dec 30, 2015 10:59

Ra Ra Rasputin: Apr 2, 2011

Any mods out yet to remove the underwater hazy blur?

# ? Dec 30, 2015 11:18

Robo Reagan: Feb 12, 2012; by Fluffdaddy

oh christ, CBBE has finally been imported to Fallout. it's all downhill from here

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Magmarashi posted:

It's dumb, but it IS completely, 100% ignorable. You'd never ever know it was there at all, it is the wateriest loving feature creep I've ever seen and people are acting like it's a loving disaster, lol.

you picked the wrong hill to make a stand on in this thread, friend

# ? Dec 30, 2015 11:19

KakerMix: Apr 8, 2004; 8.2 M.P.G.

That there are people falling over themselves to loudly declare how surprising and gross it is that tits made their way into a Bethesda game is pretty funny because of how low impact it is.

Just wait until the realistic Brahmin vagina mod comes along.

# ? Dec 30, 2015 17:00

Arc Hammer: Mar 4, 2013; Got any deathsticks?

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

Any mods out yet to remove the underwater hazy blur?

Remove Depth of Field with the Fallout 4 Configurator tool and it removes the haze.

# ? Dec 30, 2015 17:37

greatBigJerk: Sep 6, 2010; My final form.

Looks like the Nexus added a "CBBE Bodybase" tag in the block content section, seems to work pretty well!

# ? Dec 30, 2015 18:04

Dad Jokes: May 25, 2011

I remember somebody posting a (possibly goon-made?) mod in this thread a while ago that let you use cash registers and first-aid kits as replacements for the bulky settlement stores, but I can't seem to find it again.

The closest I can find is this one, but I remember the mod using a first-aid kit for clinics instead of a rug. Does anyone know which mod I'm talking about?

edit: vvv Awesome, thanks! The preview image made me think it was a cash register recolor so I skipped over it, whoops. :v:

Dad Jokes fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Dec 30, 2015

# ? Dec 30, 2015 18:18

fereldish: Jun 25, 2012

Dad Jokes posted:

I remember somebody posting a (possibly goon-made?) mod in this thread a while ago that let you use cash registers and first-aid kits as replacements for the bulky settlement stores, but I can't seem to find it again.

Convenient Stores

^^ Yeah, the colors are a neat addition, but the plain old vanilla one is good enough for me, so I grabbed the much smaller version 1.1 instead. Works like a charm.

fereldish fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Dec 30, 2015

# ? Dec 30, 2015 18:25

Dark_Swordmaster: Oct 31, 2011

KakerMix posted:

Just wait until the realistic Brahmin vagina mod comes along.

I appreciate the wordplay but is it seriously not out yet?

# ? Dec 30, 2015 18:46

gasman: Mar 21, 2013; hey now

greatBigJerk posted:

Looks like the Nexus added a "CBBE Bodybase" tag in the block content section, seems to work pretty well!

Thank God. I meant to make a request for this today on their feedback forum, but I had trouble wording it to minimize the risk of a ban.

This mod is kind of brilliant, if you don't enjoy collecting water and caps from your gulags manually:
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/7249/

gasman fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Dec 30, 2015

# ? Dec 30, 2015 19:41

Ygolonac

Nov 26, 2007

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Capn Beeb posted:

I'm kinda bummed about the change to texture and meshes stuff because I wanted to port my Skyrim character over

Hello yes I heard the Railroad could use some assistance.

"Which way to the Grognak convention?"

alternate:

"Wish a buckhead would show up..."

"Pardon me, brother, can you spare a moment to talk about our Lord and Saviour Malacath?"

# ? Dec 30, 2015 21:40

LumberingTroll: Sep 9, 2007; Really it's not because
I don't like you...

Can Fo4Edit make merged patches yet?

# ? Dec 30, 2015 21:58

ZarquonHigardi: Mar 27, 2010

LumberingTroll posted:

Can Fo4Edit make merged patches yet?

The Merge Plugins script for TES5Edit worked fine (although there were a few records it just couldn't process correctly, but that's easy enough to fix manually) for me:
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/37981

# ? Dec 30, 2015 22:20

LumberingTroll: Sep 9, 2007; Really it's not because
I don't like you...

No, not Merging plugins, making a merged patch. the process of making a comparability patch, which is semi-automatic with skyrim in TES5Edit.

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staberind: Feb 20, 2008; but i dont wanna be a spaceship; Fun Shoe

Or a bashed patch, from wyre.

As an aside, I quite like bodyslide for its ability to conformulate armor or clothes from Skyrim, or make things fit better, to be honest, I'd rather bodyslide catered for both genders, but, there we go....

I dont want rediculous tits on my character, or any of that nonsense, so I just made a girl next door style body, or just conform it to vanilla fallout.

I guess I'm just too used to the nexus and its ways.
Oh, and finally, http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/4645/ now followers will shut up about your collection of left hand bones or whatev's

staberind fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Dec 31, 2015

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