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enojy
Sep 11, 2001

bass rattle
stars out
the sky

Dr. Tim Whatley posted:

Also only use a Saddle Brown Leather Apple case.

This is a serious post containing a seriously good recommendation. Doubly so if you've got a hardon for leather products.

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Michael Scott
Jan 3, 2010

by zen death robot
Some of you guys seem kinda nuts about privacy concerns. Obviously I'm not espousing the "if you have nothing to hide" argument but using like 3 extensions and an extra app to keep all of your information from Google seems downright silly. Are you really that interesting of a person?

101
Oct 15, 2012


Vault Dweller

Boris Galerkin posted:

e: is there a way to bypass those videos on YouTube that are like "this video has been flagged 18+, please log in to a Google account and confirm your age" messages in YouTube videos without actually signing on to anything? It's YouTube so it's not even porn but like that new Deadpool trailer for example is flagged as 18+.

Yep, add 'nsfw' before 'youtube' but after 'www.'

i was reloading
Aug 15, 2015

by zen death robot
How have hackers and developers constantly broken through Apple's security on iPhones over the years? Apple will patch a jailbreak and next thing you know, another jailbreak pops up.

It's almost like Apple supports the jailbreak community in a way.

Athletic Footjob
Sep 24, 2005
Grimey Drawer

i was reloading posted:

How have hackers and developers constantly broken through Apple's security on iPhones over the years? Apple will patch a jailbreak and next thing you know, another jailbreak pops up.

It's almost like Apple supports the jailbreak community in a way.

Tell that to the Apple TV 3 crowd.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Because an operating system is really loving complex and Apple has many fewer auditors than there are hackers beating on the thing looking for exploits. There's no way for them to stay a step ahead.

Khablam
Mar 29, 2012

i was reloading posted:

How have hackers and developers constantly broken through Apple's security on iPhones over the years? Apple will patch a jailbreak and next thing you know, another jailbreak pops up.

It's almost like Apple supports the jailbreak community in a way.

Finding an exploit to get your foot in the door when you have access to the entire hardware device in hand *should* be incredibly easy; (imagine your potential for mischief if you're trying to get something on a disk that you can remove from your PC) that it is in anyway hard is a testimony to how difficult it is to achieve.
If you compare this to recent Android exploits "receive malicious message > device is permanently rooted > cry" they're doing pretty well.

That said really early jailbreaks were launched from Safari, it's gotten better.

bobfather posted:

Using Ghostery, Ublock, and one of the Google link rewriting extensions, you can use Google as a search engine without much to fear. Just never log into it and there’s a limit to how much tracking can happen.
If your problem is "Google looks at all my searches and creates a profile" then nothing you're doing here theoretically stops that; they can easily fingerprint your browser and odds are Panopticlick will say yours is unique.
If you want anonymous searches, what you're doing also doesn't come close to a solution.

Draw your own privacy lines where you want to, but imagining Google can't/won't do any form of correlation because you're not signed in isn't a great idea, and it certainly doesn't give any anonymity.

e: this is largely a response in-tone to the notion of "fearing" Google; if you think they are / could be a bad actor in your privacy stakes the only solution is to not use them, or use them in a properly distanced / anonymous way i.e. tor browser.

bobfather
Sep 20, 2001

I will analyze your nervous system for beer money

Michael Scott posted:

Some of you guys seem kinda nuts about privacy concerns. Obviously I'm not espousing the "if you have nothing to hide" argument but using like 3 extensions and an extra app to keep all of your information from Google seems downright silly. Are you really that interesting of a person?

From a "guy that's up to no good" perspective I'm completely uninteresting. As a consumer, I'm extremely interesting to corps like Google, as we all are.

For me, it all just comes down to preference. I prefer that Google not read my email and searches to market to me better.

I think Gmail is a great product. Even superlative as far as email goes. In fact, iCloud mail (in comparison) has worse search and poor junk mail detection, and for most people to use it, they actually have to pay for increased iCloud storage.

But that's the thing - while having an awesome Gmail account used to be enough of an incentive for me to use it happily in spite of knowing it was collecting data about me, the times and my attitude have changed. I'm now totally willing to pay $12 a year to use a worse product (iCloud mail, although I get other benefits for that $12 as well since I have 2 iOS devices and a MacBook Pro), purely because Apple does not read my email to market to me, that I am aware of.

I also get other benefits for using iCloud services, like deep integration with all my mobile devices, native push email, etc.

My thoughts on what's best are entirely subjective, but I feel such a mistrust about Google services that I could probably never switch to an Android device, even if they were ever to become the superlative option. I also think my opinion of Google would change somewhat if they would allow me to pay them $12 a year to stop collecting information about me.

bobfather
Sep 20, 2001

I will analyze your nervous system for beer money

Khablam posted:

If your problem is "Google looks at all my searches and creates a profile" then nothing you're doing here theoretically stops that; they can easily fingerprint your browser and odds are Panopticlick will say yours is unique.
If you want anonymous searches, what you're doing also doesn't come close to a solution.

Draw your own privacy lines where you want to, but imagining Google can't/won't do any form of correlation because you're not signed in isn't a great idea, and it certainly doesn't give any anonymity.

e: this is largely a response in-tone to the notion of "fearing" Google; if you think they are / could be a bad actor in your privacy stakes the only solution is to not use them, or use them in a properly distanced / anonymous way i.e. tor browser.

You misunderstand me. I'm mainly concerned with leaking information to Google that allows them to market to me. To stop this, I use (what I consider to be, for a knowledgable user) a standard level of browser protection and I don't use Google services as much as I can help it.

I personally don't care about being able to fingerprinted, I just care about not being a low-hanging fruit. I do believe there is a necessary and healthy amount of tracking that companies should do in order to help themselves. I also think that many companies go one (or more) steps too far in the way they collect this data, or in the way they use it.

I'll stop going on about this soon, but an example I'll give is Staples.com. I do $10k+ of business each year with them. I allow them to send me promotional emails because they often incentivize those emails with ways for me to save money. In spite of the volume of business I do with them, if I browse their site and click on an item using a virgin browser with no ad or cookie blocking, I will inevitably get an unsolicited email from them in a day or two saying "thanks for looking at this <list of products>, come back and buy them!" This behavior happens even if I actually previously bought the item (but also happens if I don't buy it). Using a browser with protections enabled makes it very difficult for them to see my browsing habits, and those emails never come.

Bottom line is, I respect that they should know something about my habits. I just don't want to be bothered in an overt way, especially if I've already purchased the item I'm being emailed about.

bobfather fucked around with this message at 13:45 on Dec 30, 2015

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Just don't buy the stuff Google is marketing to you , it's not that difficult 😉

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I stopped using google when they implemented the personalized news section. That poo poo is loving creepy for how precise it is.

My issue is there is no way to specify what they store about you. It's all or nothing and the only way to influence it is periodically hunt down the delete my data link or not visit any of their sites.

maduin
Mar 4, 2003
Lol if you don't use Tor + a VPN to perform your google searches for the new Fallout game.

maduin
Mar 4, 2003
Also, if you guys think google is bad, try putting Cortana in your iPhone and look at what Microsoft has on you already without ever telling them anything.

bobfather
Sep 20, 2001

I will analyze your nervous system for beer money
Echo and Cortana are arguably as good or better than Siri already. Google Now is way better. But at what cost to my privacy?

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

:qqsay:

Rubiks Pubes
Dec 5, 2003

I wanted to be a neo deconstructivist, but Mom wouldn't let me.
I dunno, maybe I'm a SHEEP or something but I don't care if Google knows what I buy.

Khablam
Mar 29, 2012

Rubiks Pubes posted:

I dunno, maybe I'm a SHEEP or something but I don't care if Google knows what I buy.

Yeah neither do I, and more importantly most of the power of Google comes from them knowing what results work with certain people, both on an individual level and on big-data analysis.
People bemoan Google, whilst failing to acknowledge they "have to" use it for the quality, quality which comes from what they are complaining about.
Largely the same people who complain about paywalls in one post, then support an ethos of "block all adds never whitelist" in another.

There's a reason DDG is poo poo; they can't tie together their results to their users and work out if they're even being useful.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

I'm totally fine with google powering their machine by harvesting bits from the legions of people who don't give a poo poo. If it works for them and it's legal, game on. I'm not passing judgement on the model, I just want people to have the ability to opt-out if that's their inclination.

DDG's results are pretty competitive these days, sometimes I'll enter the same query into google and the top results are nearly always the exact same links.

bobfather
Sep 20, 2001

I will analyze your nervous system for beer money
DuckDuckGo is an aggressive reaction to search engines like Google.

Whereas Google tracks and logs almost everything, DDG tracks and logs nothing. I believe DDG would be a better search engine if they tracked some things, but I don't blame them for tracking nothing. In this day the words "tracking" and "privacy" are hot button topics. People perceive any tracking as being a bad thing. And they take umbrage when their privacy is violated in any way.

How exactly could DDG even compete with Google unless they tracked and logged nothing? With the stigma against tracking and privacy, who would use them if they said We track you less and violate your privacy less than other search engines! versus, We track and log nothing at all.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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My main issue with DDG go is, a lot of the things I search for are reacting to current events. Google does a great job at dealing with that, DDG is non-existent. I just searched DDG for 'Bill Cosby', and I got a load of generic links and a few news stories from 2 years ago, no mention of the fact he's been charged today.

Khablam
Mar 29, 2012

bobfather posted:

DuckDuckGo is an aggressive reaction to search engines like Google.

Whereas Google tracks and logs almost everything, DDG tracks and logs nothing. I believe DDG would be a better search engine if they tracked some things, but I don't blame them for tracking nothing. In this day the words "tracking" and "privacy" are hot button topics. People perceive any tracking as being a bad thing. And they take umbrage when their privacy is violated in any way.

How exactly could DDG even compete with Google unless they tracked and logged nothing? With the stigma against tracking and privacy, who would use them if they said We track you less and violate your privacy less than other search engines! versus, We track and log nothing at all.

I'm saying both are fine models, but it confuses me when people take the ~~ethics~~ of one approach, hold it against the other, and then start clucking as though they are trying to make a point outside of "I don't understand how any of this works but buzzwords".

Not really a personal attack since you have your own thing you want to deal with but you see the sentimentality ITT and basically all over.

Do people not read Catch-22 in schools anymore or what.

bobfather
Sep 20, 2001

I will analyze your nervous system for beer money

Khablam posted:

I'm saying both are fine models, but it confuses me when people take the ~~ethics~~ of one approach, hold it against the other, and then start clucking as though they are trying to make a point outside of "I don't understand how any of this works but buzzwords".

That's fair. I think I've said all along that in my belief, Gmail is the superior webmail. Google is the superior search. Google Now is the superior digital assistant. But I also see that Google has a vested interest in being superior with those services - in fact, their entire business model revolves around it, and that's the part I actually have trouble personally accepting.

Pivo
Aug 20, 2004


bobfather posted:

I'm now totally willing to pay $12 a year to use a worse product

I use these guys: http://www.tuffmail.com/

Been using them for a decade now with no problems. Better than trusting Google or paying Apple, a business that provides professional level email hosting is worth the minor expense. Apple's core business is good but poo poo like email, maps and cloud services are just hobbies for them IMO.

maduin
Mar 4, 2003

Pivo posted:

I use these guys: http://www.tuffmail.com/

Been using them for a decade now with no problems. Better than trusting Google or paying Apple, a business that provides professional level email hosting is worth the minor expense. Apple's core business is good but poo poo like email, maps and cloud services are just hobbies for them IMO.

looks like they haven't updated their website since you started using them.

Pivo
Aug 20, 2004


maduin posted:

looks like they haven't updated their website since you started using them.

If a pretty website meant a superior product then that might matter.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

If I set a reminder with a due date, and it comes up on the lock screen, it only has snooze (for some random amount of time) and mark completed options. If it comes up while I'm using the phone, or my Mac, then it has "delay 1 hour" and "delay until tomorrow" options, which are usually what I really want. Is this just the way it works?

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


Speaking of notifications I just ran into a bug this morning that made me late for work.

When the phone is sleeping and an alarm goes off, you use the volume buttons to snooze it. If the phone is on, you get the alert pop-up with the option to snooze or OK to turn the alarm off. The problem comes when you use the volume buttons to snooze the alarm while the screen is on. It turns off the alarm but leaves the alert up so the snooze is never triggered. This also stops any other alarm or notification to pop up. The alert will just stay there until you click one of the buttons



So if you use an app like Sleep Cycle which leaves the phone "on" (with a regular alarm as backup) you can accidentally "snooze" the main alarm and block the alarm from going off again until you wake up and get rid of the alert pop-up.

I figured I could just change the notification for an alarm from alert to banner (which is what I use for everything) but turns out clock.app has no notification options.

TL, DR: I'm buying an actual alarm clock.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Or not try to use two alarms at the same time on the same device that function in fundamentally different ways.

Pick one or the other and you'd probably do fine!

Escape_GOAT
May 20, 2004

Does anyone have any recommendations for programs that can format iMessages/text messages so that they can be submitted to the court as evidence? My attorney's assistant said taking screenshots was fine, but there are months and months of exchanges that need to be presented; simply too many to document via screenshots. A google search pulled up a program like DecipherTools, but if anyone has any experience with other options, I'd appreciate any input.

maduin
Mar 4, 2003

Carl Seitan posted:

Does anyone have any recommendations for programs that can format iMessages/text messages so that they can be submitted to the court as evidence? My attorney's assistant said taking screenshots was fine, but there are months and months of exchanges that need to be presented; simply too many to document via screenshots. A google search pulled up a program like DecipherTools, but if anyone has any experience with other options, I'd appreciate any input.

Export them to a PDF with iExplorer maybe. If the legitimacy is called into question (OBJECTION: YOU EDITED THE PDFS) the phone or screenshots or whatever can be submitted.

Michael Scott
Jan 3, 2010

by zen death robot

Carl Seitan posted:

Does anyone have any recommendations for programs that can format iMessages/text messages so that they can be submitted to the court as evidence? My attorney's assistant said taking screenshots was fine, but there are months and months of exchanges that need to be presented; simply too many to document via screenshots. A google search pulled up a program like DecipherTools, but if anyone has any experience with other options, I'd appreciate any input.

I am interested as well. And because I'm nosy, can you tell us in a generic nutshell what your court case is about?

Escape_GOAT
May 20, 2004

Michael Scott posted:

I am interested as well. And because I'm nosy, can you tell us in a generic nutshell what your court case is about?

Nasty divorce/child custody dispute.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
I'm on a flight and just bought a GoGo pass but it's for my phone only. Is it possible to tether my wifi connection to my
MacBook prom from my iPhone?

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

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You can only have one wifi connection at a time. I hate those things, they find any way to screw you and charge you extra if they can (based on Boingo anyway).

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

iPhone will only tether through a cellular connection unfortunately, even if you plug it in to the laptop with a usb cable.

Your laptop can run as an ad-hoc hotspot, but I don't think the gui will let you set it up to share a wifi connection. But I think it's technically possible set it up as a bridge on the command line if you're familiar with those commands.

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD
On the off chance you are jailbroken, you can SSH into your phone from your laptop and tunnel a connection that way.

MonkeyforaHead
Apr 7, 2006


God, you vindictive bitch, why can't I ever have any "me" time

So here's my scenario: iPod Touch 5G running iOS 7.0. Becoming increasingly reluctantly tempted to grab the current iOS for expanded game/app support. I haven't jailbroken and frankly don't have any reason to, but my main reservations are: how badly on average has iOS 9 broken the older, no-longer-updated apps, and does iFunbox 3.0 play nice with it? I know IFB 3.0 was introduced specifically to address the lockout introduced with iOS 8.3, but I can't find any straight answers one way or another as to whether that's an ongoing back-and-forth or if Apple's decided to ignore them again for the time being.

That and I guess is iOS 9.2 still a buggy mess or are all the complaints I'm hearing just fringe cases and it's actually not that terrible

MonkeyforaHead fucked around with this message at 11:09 on Dec 31, 2015

Gwyrgyn Blood
Dec 17, 2002

There shouldn't be any issues taking the sim card from my Android phone to my iPhone right (yes they are the same size)? The iPhones we got apparently come with new cards but if I can just plug my old one in that seems a lot easier to me.

It sounds like going the other way (iPhone->Android) you should disable iMessages but that's about it.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



MonkeyforaHead posted:

So here's my scenario: iPod Touch 5G running iOS 7.0. Becoming increasingly reluctantly tempted to grab the current iOS for expanded game/app support. I haven't jailbroken and frankly don't have any reason to, but my main reservations are: how badly on average has iOS 9 broken the older, no-longer-updated apps, and does iFunbox 3.0 play nice with it? I know IFB 3.0 was introduced specifically to address the lockout introduced with iOS 8.3, but I can't find any straight answers one way or another as to whether that's an ongoing back-and-forth or if Apple's decided to ignore them again for the time being.

That and I guess is iOS 9.2 still a buggy mess or are all the complaints I'm hearing just fringe cases and it's actually not that terrible
I can't comment on the iPod, but I haven't had any problems with 9.2.

Gwyrgyn Blood posted:

There shouldn't be any issues taking the sim card from my Android phone to my iPhone right (yes they are the same size)? The iPhones we got apparently come with new cards but if I can just plug my old one in that seems a lot easier to me.

It sounds like going the other way (iPhone->Android) you should disable iMessages but that's about it.
This might depend on carrier. iPhone SIM cards are provisioned for visual voicemail, while ones that came with an Android phone may not. Initial setup should transfer your account to the new SIM card, so it's not really any easier. I could be wrong, though, it's been awhile since I've done it.

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BigRed0427
Mar 23, 2007

There's no one I'd rather be than me.

Quick question. Does cold weather mess with the battery's sensor? I've been looking at my phone while I'm working (outside) and seen my battery status drop from 80 to 30 but it still lasts me through the day normally.

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