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New Vegas was excellent. Good example.
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Endorph posted:command mission was okay, but i wish spider didn't get owned command mission is a weird case where like, the plot is terrible, the cinematography is rear end, the dungeon design is awful for like a third of the game, the coolest character dies halfway through, and 100% completing it is the most laughably impossible task in the world, but I still love it and have played through it like five times and know more about it off the top of my head than any other human being on the planet
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Dec 31, 2015 02:14
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Tae posted:What is the goal to winning this argument There's no winning when j-pop is involved
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Dec 31, 2015 02:14
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new vegas had fun, goofy aspects to its characters, too. the character writing in the game was generally pretty dry, but it still had plenty of goofy, fun stuff i mean, maybe there's less if you play without wild wasteland, but if you do that then you're a loser in my eyes...
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Dec 31, 2015 02:15
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Butt Ghost posted:KH3 will conclude the first phase of Kingdom Hearts. The end of the Xehanort Saga. What lies beyond the rain of X-NoHeart?
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Dec 31, 2015 02:15
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Sakurazuka posted:Masaaki Yuasa literally directed an episode. It was a great episode too.
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Dec 31, 2015 02:16
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Ceaser and anything to do with the legion is not what I would call good or natural characterization on any level. Everything about that was half baked as hell.
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Dec 31, 2015 02:16
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if we're talking about anime, wild arms 3 was loving fantastic, like it had some annoying aspects but it was really loving good and also had an opening animation and ending credits every time you loaded and quit the game, which makes it an actually, for real anime game
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Dec 31, 2015 02:17
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Endorph posted:what did japan do to you Released too many good and/or interesting games that I don't have the free hours to play. 
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Dec 31, 2015 02:17
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it even has four distinct story arcs with different main villains and plot thrusts
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Dec 31, 2015 02:17
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the fact that the final boss had 11 forms was a bit much though
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Dec 31, 2015 02:18
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The Colonel posted:new vegas had fun, goofy aspects to its characters, too. the character writing in the game was generally pretty dry, but it still had plenty of goofy, fun stuff That's true, but it was definitely balanced on the whole. When I think of melodramatic RPG's, I think FF6, most of Mass Effect, or Masquerade. All good games but over-the-top almost out of the gate.
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Dec 31, 2015 02:20
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Ceaser and anything to do with the legion is not what I would call good or natural characterization on any level. Everything about that was half baked as hell. yeah, iirc ropekid's gone on record saying they suffered from their super tight time constraints and that's a large part of why they're presented in such a lopsided way compared to everyone else
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Dec 31, 2015 02:21
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i've never played a fallout game
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Dec 31, 2015 02:22
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Ceaser and anything to do with the legion is not what I would call good or natural characterization on any level. Everything about that was half baked as hell. Caesar and the Burned Man were decent characterizations. Their faction was the weakest part of the game though because they were too hard to sympathize with.
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Dec 31, 2015 02:23
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alcharagia posted:I'm the world's leading authority on Megaman X Command Mission   Glad I'm not the only one who loved that game more than it probably should've been.
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Dec 31, 2015 02:23
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alcharagia posted:i've never played a fallout game they're pretty good
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Dec 31, 2015 02:25
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:
IIIIIIIIIII'M LOOKING FOR PASSIONATE LOOOOOVE Jounetsu Setsunaaaaaa
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Dec 31, 2015 02:27
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alcharagia posted:command mission is a weird case where like, the plot is terrible, the cinematography is rear end, the dungeon design is awful for like a third of the game, the coolest character dies halfway through, and 100% completing it is the most laughably impossible task in the world, but I still love it and have played through it like five times and know more about it off the top of my head than any other human being on the planet bloodychill posted:That have absolutely none? Hard to say since melodrama is popular. In recent years, New Vegas had mostly natural characterizations, notably the companions, Caesar, and NPC's that weren't House, though even his grand-standing made sense considering his unique situation. I'll freely admit that I can't name any JRPGs that are mostly subtle, but at least the way JRPGs operate allow for scenes of subtlety. Quiet moments where two characters just look at each other and don't say a word, or even letting the camera do some characterization if they're really creative. I've mostly seen camera work used for comedy in JRPGs, but it's still more than the average WRPG can do just as a matter of course - 'comedic' timing in WRPGs is usually just zooming in on a guy's face as he awkwardly shifts to an exaggerated smirk. Even in games without much camera work, either due to age or using a visual novel presentation with talking sprites, it still feels more natural than the WRPG way of doing things. And JRPGs just seem like they're more willing to do creative things within their frame work. Nobody would accuse Tales of the Abyss being an impeccably written masterpiece, even if I do really like it, but there's a sequence where the protagonist fucks up and the party scatters. You get to play as the rest of the group with a new leader, and the new leader is kind of awkward to control in battle and there's barely any skits - little bits of party chatter - during that bit, get to play as the protagonist on his own and feel how much being without the party sucks. It isn't a huge moment that's executed perfectly, and the theme it's expressing is pretty much 'being alone sucks  ', but it's still way more use of the medium than I've seen any WPRG do, probably because WRPGs are so married to the idea of create-a-character.Witcher 3 let you play as Ciri for little sequences, I guess? But they felt more like 'oh, yeah, here's what Ciri's up to' sequences instead of really setting anything up or using it for anything other than a shift in playstyle.
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Dec 31, 2015 02:27
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If you can handle its 16 year old presentation, start with the first Fallout and see how you go. It's brilliant. The new games are also great, but I think I enjoy them a lot more because of playing Fallout 1 & 2.
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Dec 31, 2015 02:28
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things can be more or less anime without that meaning that it is better or worse trails of cold steel is more anime than trails in the sky is more anime than sorcerian but tits is the best 'anime' has use as a descriptor even if people often abuse it as a perjorative also my favorite anime jrpg is dark souls what is the dark souls of anime? (it's not berserk)
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Dec 31, 2015 02:28
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JRPGs are the superior RPGs imo Also anime is good
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Dec 31, 2015 02:30
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Francis posted:things can be more or less anime without that meaning that it is better or worse It's Berserk.
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Dec 31, 2015 02:30
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Basically it's a huge structural problem for me, I don't really like open world RPGs, it feels like the breadth of content is sacrificing depth, and even Witcher 3, which I do like, suffers from a lot of interesting plots having to be expressed in really barebones, 'let's talk for ten minutes' ways. JRPGs have long cutscenes but at least stuff happens in JRPG cutscenes, usually. And the general bioware structure of 'tackle these 3-6 scripted sequences in any order you like' feels like the worst of both worlds, since it doesn't have that much player exploration or choice but it also doesn't allow for actual plot progression until you've passed all the checkpoints. And there's barely any WRPGs that are structured like JRPGs, except for games that are just outright aping JRPGs like, idk, undertale? Francis posted:what is the dark souls of anime? (it's not berserk)
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Dec 31, 2015 02:32
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basilisk has a scene where the protagonist gets his rear end kicked by a quadruple amputee. it's the most dark souls anime.
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Dec 31, 2015 02:32
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The Colonel posted:yeah, iirc ropekid's gone on record saying they suffered from their super tight time constraints and that's a large part of why they're presented in such a lopsided way compared to everyone else I still have no idea how the gently caress they expected people to empathize with a faction that crucified anyone who didn't immediately bow to them and literally kept all women in occupied territory as rape slaves. Like, I usually defend Obsidian, but that just screams they were going to go with the  'hard' moral choice of "Well they're monsters, but they keep us safe! Except the women, who they rape, and our sons, who they steal and sacrifice in brutal and stupid wars."  vs. "They're nice but inefficient and make us pay taxes"  vs "I'm going on a powertrip and becoming the god-king of Vegas"  Like the Legion has no redeeming features whatsoever unless you're a fledgling fascist. And I'm not sure how giving that more exposure would have made the game better? Zore fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Dec 31, 2015 |
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Dec 31, 2015 02:32
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I've got a feeling I'll stick with Trails in the Sky longer than I will with Shining Force GBA. Which of these is more anime?
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Dec 31, 2015 02:33
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BadAstronaut posted:I've got a feeling I'll stick with Trails in the Sky longer than I will with Shining Force GBA. Which of these is more anime? follow your heart instead of what an anime-o-meter tells you
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Dec 31, 2015 02:34
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Erg posted:follow your heart instead of what an anime-o-meter tells you Baldur's Gate 2 it is then
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Dec 31, 2015 02:35
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BadAstronaut posted:I've got a feeling I'll stick with Trails in the Sky longer than I will with Shining Force GBA. Which of these is more anime? You have to be careful because liking anime is the equivalent of having AIDS Stay safe astronaut
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Dec 31, 2015 02:36
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I played Diablo 2 and it was kinda neat but I'm not gonna lie, the whole Star Wars text-scroll style of dialogue super bores me
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BadAstronaut posted:I've got a feeling I'll stick with Trails in the Sky longer than I will with Shining Force GBA. Which of these is more anime? I've got something to help, a modified geiger counter that instead of clicking, goes doki doki.
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Dec 31, 2015 02:39
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littleorv posted:You have to be careful because liking anime is the equivalent of having AIDS Good to know. I'll remain vigilant. I was gifted almost all the Ys games on steam this Christmas and my confusion about which order to play them in may have saved my life.
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BadAstronaut posted:Good to know. I'll remain vigilant. I was gifted almost all the Ys games on steam this Christmas and my confusion about which order to play then in may have saved my life. Origin's the best
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Dec 31, 2015 02:40
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BadAstronaut posted:Good to know. I'll remain vigilant. I was gifted almost all the Ys games on steam this Christmas and my confusion about which order to play then in may have saved my life. Ys: Origin tells you in its title to play it first e: ^^^^^ 
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Dec 31, 2015 02:40
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The more anime a Ys game is, the worse it is. Sad but true.
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ys 3 was barely anime at all in its original incarnation
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BadAstronaut posted:Good to know. I'll remain vigilant. I was gifted almost all the Ys games on steam this Christmas and my confusion about which order to play them in may have saved my life. Good work. I'm going to recommend you play Persona 4. Don't be fooled, while it may look anime it actually isn't as many goons can personally attest to so you should be safe.
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Francis posted:The more anime a Ys game is, the worse it is. Sad but true. Celceta is good and Kefin isn't, so this is outright false.
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